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Steve McNamara please read this.

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A player who is holding down the stand off spot in the World and NRL championship club side must be a very good choice for England

Wouldn't argue with that, but it would be interesting to see Widdop play regularly for a team that didn't have Slater, Smith and Cronk in it.

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At the risk of going against the flow here, I have see quite a bit of Widdop and based on last season's form be was well behind Sinfield. When Cronk, Slater and Smith are on form he can look pretty good with an excellent running and short passing game. But to be honest when a couple of them were out and the Storm needed him to step up he was pretty anonymous and not the team's go to player they needed. He is a cracker for sure, but not a shoe-in ahead of others in the SL just because he plays for the world's best club.

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since winning the man of steel award chase has been decidedly average, people forget about the likes of richie myler and johnny lomax when talking about an england scrum half both are far far better than chase.........

Jonny Lomax isn't even in the squad so obviously McNamara doesn't think much of him, in an international context.

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i had lomax & widdop down as our post world cup halfback pairing...

hopefully the rumour that st helens have signed josh duggan comes true so jonny can move back to his correct position..

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i had lomax & widdop down as our post world cup halfback pairing...

That wouldn't work as neither is an organiser. Lomax would need to be a creative six allowed to roam without the burden of bossing his team mates. He is too quiet for that.

hopefully the rumour that st helens have signed josh duggan comes true so jonny can move back to his correct position..

:D That was a decidedly naff effort at an April Fool.

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im 90% sure it is a april fools.......but there might be something in it ??

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agree with that.....he's a fantastic hooker

so what would you do with james roby? one of the top 3 hookers in the world.........

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Could a Sinfield/Widdop partnership not work then?

yup - must admit this is more likely.

McNamara clearly doesnt think Brough is up to it, but he has selected Widdop for big games before.

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At the risk of going against the flow here, I have see quite a bit of Widdop and based on last season's form be was well behind Sinfield. When Cronk, Slater and Smith are on form he can look pretty good with an excellent running and short passing game. But to be honest when a couple of them were out and the Storm needed him to step up he was pretty anonymous and not the team's go to player they needed. He is a cracker for sure, but not a shoe-in ahead of others in the SL just because he plays for the world's best club.

on this seasons form he is a thousand miles better than chase, i really despair that anyone on this planet thinks chase is any good. :(

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Sinfields played 32 Test matches and has been out of his depth or had an "Andy Currier" in all but about 3 of them!

:rolleyes:

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The only situation in which you could pick Brough would be if you managed to trick him into thinking it was February and that the Aussies were some ten-a-penny West Yorkshire team. Otherwise he'll go hiding again.

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so what would you do with james roby? one of the top 3 hookers in the world.........

what would i have done you mean..........play roby at loose?? or bench him..

but it never happened so nowt to worry about

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what would i have done you mean..........play roby at loose?? or bench him..

but it never happened so nowt to worry about

So you'd play a hooker at loose and a stand off/loose forward at hooker?

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lol......i was being ironic with sticking roby at loose....

but sinfield was excellent when he played hookerfor england in 2009...he should have stayed there imo...

and i've mentioned the 1,6,7,9 spine that McNamara has built his team around....sinfield is 6 & roby is his 9....

so im not going to get into hypotheticals over what could/should have happened 4 years

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I do not assume the NRL is the be all etc...Anyone, who has sky sports and premier sports can see for themselves. The difference in the speed, quality, intensity, execution and skills of the undivduals and teams involved. I am not saying we are guaranteed to win with Widdop and Brough.I am saying they will give us more chance then a Sinfield/Chase combo.

It is irrelavent anyway because Macnamara will pick Sinfiedl/Chase anyway and you will be very happy.

That is pure common sense pal: so you have no chance of not being ridiculed ( asI am ) for being an Aussie/NRL lover. It is beyond the intellect of many on here to find that admitting the truth is not being disloyal but can sometimes simply be worthwhile doing, so cut it out or be prepared to stand the consequences.

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And if we don't win with Widdop and Brough,who are the next in line?

I don't think it matters who the half back combination is,until we lose the hero worship mentality and learn to play for 80 minutes,we simply won't beat them regularly.

Once if we are lucky and twice should we have to, will suffice in October, what?

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Once if we are lucky and twice should we have to, will suffice in October, what?

And that's it is it.Short term satisfaction.Not addressing the real problems that beset RL in the UK to eneable us to constantly beat the Aussies.

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So that's ok then but if Chase had a stinker would it be the usual.Is Danny Brough above criticism?

Not from this quarter he isn't, I would not pick Brough because of items in his game that I have picked upon so many times, primarily his tendency to blow hot and cold and the unpredictablness of which cap he will turn up wearing.

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Not from this quarter he isn't, I would not pick Brough because of items in his game that I have picked upon so many times, primarily his tendency to blow hot and cold and the unpredictablness of which cap he will turn up wearing.

Exactly,yet some don't see that.

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Are you mixing George up with Tom?. George didn't get a game at bulls before he went down under.

Oh, sorry then and apologies for that, thanks for the reminder too.

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Wouldn't argue with that, but it would be interesting to see Widdop play regularly for a team that didn't have Slater, Smith and Cronk in it.

Ah yes, but what you have to ask yourself is: would Kevin Sinfield even gain a place in a team that has Slater, Smith and Cronk in it??

I am sorry to have to harp on this point but please do not compare the performance level in S/L with those required in the NRL. What is missing from that thinking is the quality of the opposition being faced weekly in each competition and sadly that comparison is badly skewed in one direction.

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And that's it is it.Short term satisfaction.Not addressing the real problems that beset RL in the UK to eneable us to constantly beat the Aussies.

Apart from the Australian Kangaroo's, what other team in World sport has dominated all others for practically 50 years? And in answer to your question, yes I would trade this years World cup over long term domination, that can come again the World cup 2013 will not. Ever!

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Apart from the Australian Kangaroo's, what other team in World sport has dominated all others for practically 50 years? And in answer to your question, yes I would trade this years World cup over long term domination, that can come again the World cup 2013 will not. Ever!

Are you related to Yoda?

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