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nigel wood bigging super league up and the game of rl

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not having a go at the different spectacles at all, depends what you class as spectacular however, but if you honestly think its good for rugby league what happened on monday, ie massive 1 sided scores in front of lesser crowds then it must be good.

So what do you suggest, baring in mind clubs need money?

I'd suggest the reasons for lesser crowds have more to do with certain clubs' individual circumstances than the quality/quantity squads have.

London - management failings for decades.

Salford - didn't sell season tickets until last minute, nearly went bust, are practically on a hiding to nothing this season.

Bradford - correct me if I'm wrong, but they no longer do the cheap season ticket deals and so are rebuilding again under a new owner?

Who else?

derbys are always gonna generate good crowds, good atmospheres and good days out for fans, especially if the sides competing are evenly matched, but these only come round a few times a season, its the other rounds that need bigging up and doing something about.

You've just criticised Wood for doing exactly that!

mondays round of fixtures was far from a derby style round and basically was a fill in fixture after good friday. i still maintain squads arent good/ strong enough for 2 rounds so close together.

They may not be good enough, but we're not in an ideal world where we can just drop fixtures.

Squads may not be good enough to play 36 week domestic seasons, and that could be why we're always so fatigued against the big sides, but we can't exactly just drop fixtures! It's professional sport!

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I bet you weren't quite so vociferous when your lot signed Paul Cooke illegally.

This is how professional sport works. If your club can afford to sign someone, and that player accepts, then they can go. You say "give Joel Moon back", well maybe he doesn't want to bloody go back! It's not like he's a Salford product! They signed him from somewhere else!

Cooke moving from Hull FC to Hull KR was an example of a lesser club signing a bigger club’s star. A few more such moves and we might actually have the league Wood is talking about. How’s that for irony and a missed arrow?

Moon moving up the ladder fuels the fire of lopsided scorelines like Monday’s.

Comparing apples with pears.

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Cooke moving from Hull FC to Hull KR was an example of a lesser club signing a bigger club’s star. A few more such moves and we might actually have the league Wood is talking about. How’s that for irony and a missed arrow?

Moon moving up the ladder fuels the fire of lopsided scorelines like Monday’s.

Comparing apples with pears.

Yet HKR didn't really improve with him in the side,blows that one out of the water doesn't it.

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So what do you suggest, baring in mind clubs need money?

I'd suggest the reasons for lesser crowds have more to do with certain clubs' individual circumstances than the quality/quantity squads have.

London - management failings for decades.

Salford - didn't sell season tickets until last minute, nearly went bust, are practically on a hiding to nothing this season.

Bradford - correct me if I'm wrong, but they no longer do the cheap season ticket deals and so are rebuilding again under a new owner?

Who else?

You've just criticised Wood for doing exactly that!

They may not be good enough, but we're not in an ideal world where we can just drop fixtures.

Squads may not be good enough to play 36 week domestic seasons, and that could be why we're always so fatigued against the big sides, but we can't exactly just drop fixtures! It's professional sport!

not in an ideal world, so leave it as it is an all will be ok, an we all live happily ever after.

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It must have been tough for Broncos fans to stomach last Thursday at Esher for sure and the wider game too. And on to Wire Monday. Yes they finished well beaten. But I noticed their line up there names like Channing, Krasniqi & Dixon all local kids too I think. The latter scored a splendid hat trick of tries against the Cup holders giving everyone down Hertfordshire way a real lift. Another two new names entered the fray Woodburn-Hall and Dollapi too. The reports said that the Broncos efforts early on encouraging.

Last August a school team from Surrey I understand won a Champions School age group Final at Wembley for the first time. Near to the capital this year the arrival of three new CC1 clubs. A poster on here was enthralled describing the win at Skolars and how it affected the fans down from Hemel for the occasion; all uplifting stuff.

A while back I was involved with a new SRLC set up in Cheltenham and played games at the Prince of Wales Stadium in the town. Last weekend for the All Golds opener against Oxford their one seated stand at this venue was full with near 400 or so excited spectators creating a super atmosphere. I prefer to look at all that; all the different strands about the game in that part of the world. Its doesn't mean that the Broncos haven't got real issues around them at all but the bigger picture has its story to tell too.

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If this is the break up thread I hate to see what the make up thread is like. :D

But it's good to let off a little steam every now and then, but rather than draw a line in the sand or stick fingers in ears, listen to what posters on each side of the debate have to say.

Personally, I do think the blow-out scores highlight the gulf in squads, while anyone can beat anyone, it won't happen consistently. But I also think this is the first key indicator of where the abolishment of the under-20's side was a bad idea. And no I'm not just throwing dual-reg in there for a full house.

And as for Nigel Wood's statement, well that's plain old sod's law that it would melt all around into record scorelines.

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notice theres a "good things about super league popped up". dare anyone to put a bad things about super league/ rugby league thread up. id hope if one did go up then thered be more positives on the positive/ good things thread than negatives on the negative/bad things thread.

one thing that should happen and there would be lots of plusses and negatives would be how the negatives/ bad things are dealt with. the negatives need fixing whist the positives are maintained and built upon.

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notice theres a "good things about super league popped up". dare anyone to put a bad things about super league/ rugby league thread up. id hope if one did go up then thered be more positives on the positive/ good things thread than negatives on the negative/bad things thread.

one thing that should happen and there would be lots of plusses and negatives would be how the negatives/ bad things are dealt with. the negatives need fixing whist the positives are maintained and built upon.

I thought that was the staple diet for this forum.

Highlighting positive points about SL/RL are a rarity.

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I thought that was the staple diet for this forum.

Highlighting positive points about SL/RL are a rarity.

would there be more positives than negatives, thats the question and how there fixed. depends on response and whos responding maybe.

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would there be more positives than negatives, thats the question and how there fixed. depends on response and whos responding maybe.

It seems the people who would post the positives are in the minority.

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would there be more positives than negatives, thats the question and how there fixed. depends on response and whos responding maybe.

w

ell you don't respond to simple questions so I'm not sure what you are saying.

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It seems the people who would post the positives are in the minority.

That is just perception. Most people are positive. There are often negative posts but the vast majority comes from a select few posters who try to shoehorn their often repeated argument into just about any thread they no matter how tenuous the link might be. It does not take much effort to find plenty of positive posts on here unless it involves the RFL.

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That is just perception. Most people are positive. There are often negative posts but the vast majority comes from a select few posters who try to shoehorn their often repeated argument into just about any thread they no matter how tenuous the link might be. It does not take much effort to find plenty of positive posts on here unless it involves the RFL.

True. Most people on TRL are positive. Unfortunately, most posts on here are negative.

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True. Most people on TRL are positive. Unfortunately, most posts on here are negative.

All this positive and negative talk. We need a scientist. Where's Bob8?

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Cooke moving from Hull FC to Hull KR was an example of a lesser club signing a bigger club’s star. A few more such moves and we might actually have the league Wood is talking about. How’s that for irony and a missed arrow?

Moon moving up the ladder fuels the fire of lopsided scorelines like Monday’s.

Comparing apples with pears.

It's not at all.

What you are basically saying is big clubs aren't allowed to sign lower clubs players and lower clubs can sign who they like. So if a player is stuck at a lower club that they don't want to be at and has no chance if progressing, why on Earth would they continue with the game?

You can't complain about things being unfair and then suggest one rule for one and one for another. It's complete and utter hypocrisy.

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I dare gamble a large wad he wouldn't!

Correct Robin. For me to be positive about the game in general again the RFL need to change certain things about the way they run the game. I think enough people have read my comments on here before to know what they are.

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If Rugby League was doing well you wouldn't be on here.

Another one who thinks they know me. I watched all forms of RL from 1983-1995 and I attended many major events. I championed the game at every opportunity.

However from 95 onwards I have watched the game from amatuar level to championship level only, again I am sure you can work out why.

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1. No one on here has as far as I can tell has ever claimed everything in the garden is rosy so why the daft statement?

2. All we ever try to do is look forwards and upwards, not downwards and backwards.

1. Yes you do

2. Easy for someone who lives in a mansion to look forwards and upwards than someone on the streets.

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For me, the people who are so quick to shoot down people, who dont agree with them and Nigel Wood, should get a reality check and stop being so arrogant. We all love the game in our own way. No fan is bigger or better than the other. A number of people love the game, but are fed up with the administratiuon of it by Nigel Wood and co. Why does that make us any less of a fan? Nigel Wood and the RFL have done some good things. But he has let certain parts of the game down in our opinion. And the Championship has suffered. For certain posters they seem to get off on trying put down people who dont agree with them and in a high and mighty attitude. The forum is getting a place where a number of people have had enough with such attitudes. Personally it doesnt bother me. But its a shame certain people think its OK to speak down to others and claim they should not follow the game. Pathetic. We dont have to agree but least show some respect in some way.

Great post Lounge Room.

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1. Yes you do

2. Easy for someone who lives in a mansion to look forwards and upwards than someone on the streets.

1. yes I do what?

2. No it's not.

3. As Oscar Wilde, that famous son of Featherstone wrote, "We are all lying in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars."

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1. yes I do what?

2. No it's not.

3. As Oscar Wilde, that famous son of Featherstone wrote, "We are all lying in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars."

1. You always post as if everything is rosy in the garden and attack anyone who thinks otherwise

2. Without a doubt it is, how ridiculous of you to think otherwise.

3. The following is a quote that I like from a bloke called Hugo Claus, I don't have a clue who he is but it sums up the way I feel about the game. “I am a person who is unhappy with things as they stand. We cannot accept the world as it is. Each day we should wake up foaming at the mouth because of the injustice of things.

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1. You always post as if everything is rosy in the garden and attack anyone who thinks otherwise

2. Without a doubt it is, how ridiculous of you to think otherwise.

3. The following is a quote that I like from a bloke called Hugo Claus, I don't have a clue who he is but it sums up the way I feel about the game. “I am a person who is unhappy with things as they stand. We cannot accept the world as it is. Each day we should wake up foaming at the mouth because of the injustice of things.

Ian mate, the first two just aren't true.

as for injustice, who is deliberately doing anybody down here? is the RFL purposely trying to screw your club and the others who play in the same competition.

For its entire history the sp[ort has had to deal wit issues that no other sport has faced-from inside and outside. Doing things that you don't agree with or don't suit you personally is not the same as injustice.

I'm currently unhappy that the sport's premier competition doesn't have a main sponsor. There are vpeople in post who are paid to address these things. Even in these times there can ber many good excuses for that.

Honestly I really struggle with he idea that a game not being run in the way you would like is an 'injustice', especially considering some of the real injustices going on close to home and further afield.

Immorality, unfairness, injustice are words which should be used with care, especially in connection with people, even if you don't agree with what they are doing are actually doiung ther damndest with few if any advantages to keep the game alive.

I've hard of Hugo Claus.

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It's not at all.

What you are basically saying is big clubs aren't allowed to sign lower clubs players and lower clubs can sign who they like. So if a player is stuck at a lower club that they don't want to be at and has no chance if progressing, why on Earth would they continue with the game?

You can't complain about things being unfair and then suggest one rule for one and one for another. It's complete and utter hypocrisy.

All I'm saying is what I said in pre-season on here - namely that if we allow already successful clubs to cherry pick the best players from already unsuccessful clubs then we should expect blowout scores the like of which we saw on Monday. It's not "one rule for them" etc., simply about preventing success from breeding success. We reap what we sow. People are negative on this forum because there's much to be negative about.

If Hull KR had won the Grand Final last year then signed a high calibre centre like Moon from a shoestring competitor off the back of that success, I would be equally ashamed and embarrassed for the sport and any future success would be increasingly hollow. It's just classic bully boy stuff. What's the point of supporting a side like that? What point are you trying to make? It's no better than a 6 year-old kid 100 miles from Manchester following Man Utd because they win a lot. It's also deeply boring and bad for the league as a viewing spectacle. That's just me and I understand that different people want different things. Some want their little dynasties and to see their side fat-bellied and facing only half a dozen genuine arm wrestles a season. Such folk can't then complain when no sponsor worth its salt wants to touch our league with a bargepole.

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All I'm saying is what I said in pre-season on here - namely that if we allow already successful clubs to cherry pick the best players from already unsuccessful clubs then we should expect blowout scores the like of which we saw on Monday. It's not "one rule for them" etc., simply about preventing success from breeding success. We reap what we sow. People are negative on this forum because there's much to be negative about.

If Hull KR had won the Grand Final last year then signed a high calibre centre like Moon from a shoestring competitor off the back of that success, I would be equally ashamed and embarrassed for the sport and any future success would be increasingly hollow. It's just classic bully boy stuff. What's the point of supporting a side like that? What point are you trying to make? It's no better than a 6 year-old kid 100 miles from Manchester following Man Utd because they win a lot. It's also deeply boring and bad for the league as a viewing spectacle. That's just me and I understand that different people want different things. Some want their little dynasties and to see their side fat-bellied and facing only half a dozen genuine arm wrestles a season. Such folk can't then complain when no sponsor worth its salt wants to touch our league with a bargepole.

Could it be that the successful clubs have actually worked hard to be successful and players from other clubs want some of that,would you not want to improve yourself in your chosen field.

Time you woke up and smelled the coffee.

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FACTS-

1 rugby league is still the greatest sport in the world and will always survive

2 sl doesnt have the quality players in depth it had 10+ years ago

3 many years of clueless governing bodies have u just watched ru show how it should be done

4 money has ruined most sports in the modern era

5 lesuire time activitys and sports choices have never been more

6 95% of the british public dont know the difference between league and union

7 sl is in limbo and needs something new like a massive multi million pound cross code challenge with lots of bad blood and mouthing and nastiness surrounding the build ups soo style

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