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Who's first in at Red Hall this week ?

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Is it Ryan Bailey, Elliot Whitehead, Travis Burns is there any others who merit being up before the panel from this weekends games ?

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Brian McDermott ?

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Brian McDermott ?

Were you slightly bemused by his comments like me? The answer to his rant was surely stop your players giving silly penalties away.

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Were you slightly bemused by his comments like me? The answer to his rant was surely stop your players giving silly penalties away.

Not sure which Journo type tweeted this but at a press conference before the team flew out (it could have even been before the Bradford game) he was asked about the Catalans game and how he thought Leeds would get on and he replied "Well if you want me to be controversial, we wont win the penalty count".

To be fair its hard to defend Leeds yesterday, and Im not going to, nearly every penalty was deserved so no complaints from me.

Although his comments should be looked at in a more general view, I dont think he was specifically saying that Leeds were hard done to, but that the facts over the last few years show that Catalans receive the most penalties in SL.

If that is a fact then is it not worth investigation? I always seem to hear Catalans staff moaning that they are hard done to by officials, so is this at away games? If so, does anybody know if its true that Catalans receive a disproportionate amount of penalties at home?

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Not sure which Journo type tweeted this but at a press conference before the team flew out (it could have even been before the Bradford game) he was asked about the Catalans game and how he thought Leeds would get on and he replied "Well if you want me to be controversial, we wont win the penalty count".

To be fair its hard to defend Leeds yesterday, and Im not going to, nearly every penalty was deserved so no complaints from me.

Although his comments should be looked at in a more general view, I dont think he was specifically saying that Leeds were hard done to, but that the facts over the last few years show that Catalans receive the most penalties in SL.

If that is a fact then is it not worth investigation? I always seem to hear Catalans staff moaning that they are hard done to by officials, so is this at away games? If so, does anybody know if its true that Catalans receive a disproportionate amount of penalties at home?

I was under the impression that catalans always thought they were hard done by at home.

As to first in at red hall,surely It's got to be Bailey,he has a regular seat,apparently. ;)

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I was under the impression that catalans always thought they were hard done by at home.

As to first in at red hall,surely It's got to be Bailey,he has a regular seat,apparently. ;)

Well if thats true then the facts really dont bear that out then!

Im keeping quiet about Bailey, he actually has a very good disciplinary record and based on previous disciplinary results this year I reckon a one match ban may be all he gets.

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Well if thats true then the facts really dont bear that out then!

Im keeping quiet about Bailey, he actually has a very good disciplinary record and based on previous disciplinary results this year I reckon a one match ban may be all he gets.

Then cue the wailing and gnashing of teeth.Everyones favourite panto villain shouldn't be anywhere near a rugby field if some are to be believed.

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Well if thats true then the facts really dont bear that out then!

Im keeping quiet about Bailey, he actually has a very good disciplinary record and based on previous disciplinary results this year I reckon a one match ban may be all he gets.

You are right on both counts, if you look at the sending off offence all he is guilty of is a late shoulder charge no contact was made to the head at all. Now the first offence is completely different.

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we all know he is a thug, he just keeps getting away with it i think this time he will cop it good.

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Were you slightly bemused by his comments like me? The answer to his rant was surely stop your players giving silly penalties away.

I was amused more than bemused. I don't know if he has a point, but I thought voicing it on telly, or out loud to any media, was perhaps inviting the RFL to act. Or, maybe he is so sure of his facts, or the media guy he spoke to said, I'll break this if you don't say it, and quote you (now there's one for the gossips) .....and, he is certain that the RFL dare not open the can of worms ?

T'other half made a comment that if they do get more at home, they seem to get very little away. I don't know, are there stats kept ? All I know about penalties is that it infuriates me when commentators and fans say they should be even, or that they are unfair if they are deemed heavier on one side. Get your discipline sorted and you'll be on the 'right' end of them.

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Re Bailey, 1 or maybe 2 at most . He should have gone for 10 in first half, would have calmed down and maybe second event wouldn't have happened. His run up to the alleged head contact shows his intentions IMO, he was never going to tackle, he had one intention, a big hit. The fact that he ballsed it up shows his technique is all wrong.

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Ryan Bailey is up for two charges: a Grade C and a Grade B reckless striking (whatever that means!). We also have Eorl Crabtree with a Grade B dangerous throw, Travis Burns with a Grade B high tackle (although he is injured so does he get away with that or serve it once he is fit again?) and Justin Carney with a Grade C dangerous throw on Paul Wellens. That appears to be it for Superleague.

(Information obtained via the official superleague Twitter account)

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The Bailey 'hit' (I don't want to dignify it with the word 'tackle') reminded me of the one by Bousquet on Fages, earlier this season. Both had intention, the only question is whether Bailey actually made contact with the head. Bousquet certainly did, and got a three game ban on an early guilty plea, iirc. I think Bailey is definitely looking at a one or two game ban.

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The Bailey 'hit' (I don't want to dignify it with the word 'tackle') reminded me of the one by Bousquet on Fages, earlier this season. Both had intention, the only question is whether Bailey actually made contact with the head. Bousquet certainly did, and got a three game ban on an early guilty plea, iirc. I think Bailey is definitely looking at a one or two game ban.

I would imagine he will get at least three. He is up for two charges and isn't allowed to make an early guilty plea for the Grade B, which carries a 1 to 2 match ban. I would imagine he will get the full two matches for that as it came within the same game as his previous offence which, as a Grade C, carries a 3 to 5 match ban doesn't it? Either way I would imagine he will get away with three matches, which is a mockery of the word 'discipline' given that he committed two potentially very dangerous offences within the same match and was sent off.

No doubt his coach will be moaning about referees again.

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I would imagine he will get at least three. He is up for two charges and isn't allowed to make an early guilty plea for the Grade B, which carries a 1 to 2 match ban. I would imagine he will get the full two matches for that as it came within the same game as his previous offence which, as a Grade C, carries a 3 to 5 match ban doesn't it? Either way I would imagine he will get away with three matches, which is a mockery of the word 'discipline' given that he committed two potentially very dangerous offences within the same match and was sent off.

No doubt his coach will be moaning about referees again.

Probably.

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I would imagine he will get at least three. He is up for two charges and isn't allowed to make an early guilty plea for the Grade B, which carries a 1 to 2 match ban. I would imagine he will get the full two matches for that as it came within the same game as his previous offence which, as a Grade C, carries a 3 to 5 match ban doesn't it? Either way I would imagine he will get away with three matches, which is a mockery of the word 'discipline' given that he committed two potentially very dangerous offences within the same match and was sent off.

No doubt his coach will be moaning about referees again.

Grade C is 2-3

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Ryan Bailey is up for two charges: a Grade C and a Grade B reckless striking (whatever that means!). We also have Eorl Crabtree with a Grade B dangerous throw, Travis Burns with a Grade B high tackle (although he is injured so does he get away with that or serve it once he is fit again?) and Justin Carney with a Grade C dangerous throw on Paul Wellens. That appears to be it for Superleague.

(Information obtained via the official superleague Twitter account)

Burns ban will start this week irrespective of whether he is fit or not

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Burns was a red card all day long shocking "attempt" at tackling. Is that how he did his shoulder karma springs to mind piece of ###### him

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I dislike Ryan Bailey intently. He is dirty and a coward and somehow protected from the disciplinary time after time. In this case, however, I think sending off was more than sufficient. It looked horrible in slow motion but not so bad in real time - I also don't think he was aiming at the head.

Right, I'm off for a lie down.

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I think his challenge in the first half was worse than the one he got sent off for!

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I dislike Ryan Bailey intently. He is dirty and a coward and somehow protected from the disciplinary time after time. In this case, however, I think sending off was more than sufficient. It looked horrible in slow motion but not so bad in real time - I also don't think he was aiming at the head.

He got sent off because it was his second such offence of the match. The first one was worse, hence the Grade C charge for it.

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I think his challenge in the first half was worse than the one he got sent off for!

It was

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He got sent off because it was his second such offence of the match. The first one was worse, hence the Grade C charge for it.

No he got sent off because the match officials thought it was a red card offence

There was mention of it being his2nd offence

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No he got sent off because the match officials thought it was a red card offence

There was mention of it being his2nd offence

That's your theory. Mine is that he was sent off for a lesser offence because of the first offence. Of course he should have been sent off for the first offence but hopefully by not being sent off for the first offence he will get a longer ban than he would have done had he not committed two sanctionable offences.

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