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How would you like Super League?

How would you like Super League   59 members have voted

  1. 1. If you could change SL, how would it look?

    • Keep SL as is
    • Keep 14 teams and bring back automatic promotion and relegation
    • Reduce the number of teams and bring back automatic promotion and relegation
    • Reduce the number of teams only

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I hear allot of people on here say SL should reduce in size. Others want P&R back. I'm curious as to the most popular option is for SL. Is change what the majority want, or do the minority just have the loudest voices?

Post your preferred option here.

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super league as it is is not working,the play off system is wrong, franchising is not working, no p and r is not working,the challenge cup needs a total revamp,i hope to god there is someone somewhere making plans to make things better.

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Play offs involving over half the league devalue the main comp. Top 4 or 5 maximum.

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No more than 10-12 English sides + at least two French. No more than 14 clubs in the comp (optimum number 12); no more than six clubs in the playoffs (optimum five).

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I hear allot of people on here say SL should reduce in size. Others want P&R back. I'm curious as to the most popular option is for SL. Is change what the majority want, or do the minority just have the loudest voices?

Post your preferred option here.

Good morning sir, are you asking for an answer based on what we would like to see if things were different, i.e. fantasy SL formats? Or are we selecting a preferred option based on the cold hard reality of reducing crowds and limited finances, with some rich owners possibly leaving their clubs?

Can I do both? If so my fantasy format is a two tier SL of 14 clubs each max salary cap spend £5M.

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Good morning sir, are you asking for an answer based on what we would like to see if things were different, i.e. fantasy SL formats? Or are we selecting a preferred option based on the cold hard reality of reducing crowds and limited finances, with some rich owners possibly leaving their clubs?Can I do both? If so my fantasy format is a two tier SL of 14 clubs each max salary cap spend £5M.

Evidently the more realistic option unfortunately, though your idea would be good.

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Whilst I disagree with much of the criticism of the 8 team playoff, the low crowds for these games arent great. Strip this back to top 5.

If it was mass changes then two tens with a mid season split into 6/6/8.

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I am not wasting my time filling this in. Unless we have a postcode area section the results won't be taken seriousley on this board.

It's a shame because my wippet enjoyed voting on Chris Taylor's survey.

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I am not wasting my time filling this in. Unless we have a postcode area section the results won't be taken seriousley on this board.

It's a shame because my wippet enjoyed voting on Chris Taylor's survey.

ignore me

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I am not wasting my time filling this in. Unless we have a postcode area section the results won't be taken seriousley on this board.

It's a shame because my wippet enjoyed voting on Chris Taylor's survey.

 Can you get your wippet (sic) to post on here, too? Might be more entertaining than its owner. 

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ignore me

Why should I do that? I actually enjoy reading your comments and despite not agreeing with many of your posts I find we debate in a good way. My previous post was not aimed at you.

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Can you get your wippet (sic) to post on here, too? Might be more entertaining than its owner.

It already does and it does not result to personal insulting comments when the debate is being lost.

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Why should I do that? I actually enjoy reading your comments and despite not agreeing with many of your posts I find we debate in a good way. My previous post was not aimed at you.

No sorry - I made a point which I realised wasn't relevant! I hadn;t noticed the poll at the top and I thought people were giving their views on the thread, so I suggested that as this wasn't an anonymous discussion then it wouldn't have the issues you raised. 

 

I was being an idiot  B)

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No sorry - I made a point which I realised wasn't relevant! I hadn;t noticed the poll at the top and I thought people were giving their views on the thread, so I suggested that as this wasn't an anonymous discussion then it wouldn't have the issues you raised. 

 

I was being an idiot  B)

No worries at all Dave and no need to apologise.  I enjoy a good debate with you and would not have put you on ignore anyway.

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Evidently the more realistic option unfortunately, though your idea would be good.

As super league has not advanced and is going backwards, I'd like to get back to the original idea such as Mo Lyndsay and Gary Hetherington were behind, in that the game needed less clubs who represented bigger areas.

Mergers are dead but through licensing we can put into SL....

One club in Hull (HKR will do for me)

One club in Leeds

One Club in Bradhuddersfax

One club in Calder (make it featherstone (big nod to Ian P.) who cares as long as they can draw the fans and keep the players from that region)

One club in Cheshire (widnes will suit me)

One club in Manchester

One club in Merseyside

One club in Lancashire

Two clubs in France.

I'd love to think this lot can all turn in 10,000 crowds plus a lot more.

I'd love to think that they'd have a collective vision, a collective business policy and they'd ensure nobody struggled.

But I detest the idea of clubs playing each other three times.

So I'd want to invite more clubs to apply for a licence.

Anyone outside the M62, and anyone inside who can make the numbers up because a rich man wants to.

But none of these would be acceptable if any would not guarantee a full cap spend for 3 years and an effort to develop RL where they are.....

Would I get a 12 club SL? Maybe.

Would I get a 14 club SL probably not.

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It doesn't matter how you re structure it , its buggered and shuffling the pack isn't going to make a lot of difference , the damage was done 5 years ago

 

There are no Championship clubs anywhere near the level needed to move up to SL , and a 3 rd of SL are nowhere near or will be anywhere near true SL level for a decade at least

 

So no idea what the answer is

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No more than 10-12 English sides + at least two French. No more than 14 clubs in the comp (optimum number 12); no more than six clubs in the playoffs (optimum five).

yes

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I would live to see a 10 team uk conference and a 10 team French conference. Playing your conference teams home and away, the other conference teams once. Conference winners get the easy route in a top 8 playoffs system, ( top 3 each conference, two highest scoring clubs as wildcards).

Of the French 10, 6 heartland teams, 3 expansions and one in Italy to help them develop a competitive league.

In the uk, London fill the expansion spot, with both welsh teams given the scope to open up to 12 teams down the line.

Teams outside the top ten can play in the heartland championship and bid for a sl place if they meet criteria to grow the game or offer more than a current member.

28 game regular season, hopefully more TV games (show all none televised delayed through an Internet subscription) more sponsors.

Lastly, a scoring system that is ruthless like the game, making teams fight for a result.

2 for a win, 1 for a draw, lose a point if you lose by more than 24 (this would vary each season based on average score line), hopefully making teams fight for 80 minutes

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As has been discussed elsewhere, a 'two tier' SL would do for me. Two divisions of 10 with P&R, each club playing the others in the division twice and those from the other division once.

I would be tempted to do likewise with the two or three divisions below the SL with P&R throughout.

You'd need to spread the money about a bit more and have a more graded cap from SL1 downwards and that's maybe the main difficulty. However perhaps marquee and long service cap exceptions, with perhaps those clubs who choose to pay loads for their marquee players also having to put a percentage in a pot for the rest of the league it might work.

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I'm beginning to think perhaps, if there is a shake up, to move away from the "Super League" moniker, there are so many popping up at the moment I think we're in danger of getting lost in the crowd. Especially if this proposed football European Super League starts up.

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... if you look at the twitter feed for Super League before they do their morning clean up there are tweets about FA women's Super League, Pakistan Super League, Greek Super League, Indonesia Super League, European football Super League, volleyball Super League, Chinese Super League, ASEAN Super League.

 

edit: and Azerbaijan Super League!

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I'm beginning to think perhaps, if there is a shake up, to move away from the "Super League" moniker, there are so many popping up at the moment I think we're in danger of getting lost in the crowd. Especially if this proposed football European Super League starts up.

I tend to agree, maybe it's moving out here to nz, but I'm starting to think we should start using the moniker 'league' when referring to our sport. After all, we are rugby LEAGUE football, the other lot use the rugby part, and association choose to use football.

Maybe euro league x111, or EL13 for marketing purposes

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I tend to agree, maybe it's moving out here to nz, but I'm starting to think we should start using the moniker 'league' when referring to our sport. After all, we are rugby LEAGUE football, the other lot use the rugby part, and association choose to use football.

Maybe euro league x111, or EL13 for marketing purposes

I'm not sure about that either, cos 'league' is a thing in it's own right as a verb or noun, a collection or group, etc. I think even Rugby the town has fallen victim as it's a smallish town. And it's only really Rugby that's named after a place. It seems daft now to think of calling RL 'Huddersfield' or after some stamping of feet 'Leeds'.

 

Anyhoo, I didn't really want to drag the thread anywhere off topic, I just think any change in the league structure might incorporate a similar title change.

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The current system doesn't work so something has to change

Introducing P&R straight away will just see a return to the Yo-Yo teams with the Have's getting stronger and the Have nots getting weaker.

 

Keep the current licencing system for now but reduce the number of SL teams to 12.

Either a small increase in the salary cap or greater exemptions for 'home grown'players such as their salaries only counting 75% towards the cap.

Use the money from the 2 less SL teams to increase the slary cap in the Championship and work towards closing the gap between the 2 leagues.

Then (and only when) the gap has closed significantly, reintroduce P&R

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may be merge the lot to form an 8 team super super league playing each other three times for 21 rounds top four making play offs with 1v4 2v3 . Have all other teams as semi pro feeder teams.Then set up a french super league of 8 teams should be plenty of players who to remain full time pro would  willing to ply there trade in france.Have there league mirroring ours and then have an anglo french cup four pools of four two english two french in each pool .

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