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Surely, at the VERY least, the BBC must show BOTH semis, and hopefully ALL FOUR Q/Fs … surely !!!???

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Surely, at the VERY least, the BBC must show BOTH semis, and hopefully ALL FOUR Q/Fs … surely !!!???

They didnt previiusly in 2000 - Sky had the Wales v Oz semi.

I also see no reason why they should show all 4 qf's they have never ever shown 4 live games over 1 weekend.

Id like to see more of a commitment to Wales and like I said earlier a game every sat and sun would give them 10 games and would feel quite substantial.

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yes, 10 games plus BOTH semis on the BBC would be acceptable

also, looking on the bright side: " BBC's deal also includes the Four Nations tournaments in 2014 and 2016 and the next World Cup in 2017.'

At least that means RL fans are guaranteed a Four Nations tournament in 2014 and 2016 and a World Cup in 2017 i.e. a bit of international RL forward calendar planning: incredible !!!

and 2015? An Ashes tour? Great Britain v Oz?

or a ridiculous expansion of the WCC ?

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If alternative revenues can be found to mitigate both of the bad points then it could be a good thing. One thing it has highlighted though is how little Sky value the sport. It was mentioned on here after the Leeds v Wire game that there seemed to be a general negativity running through the commentary - I reckon we know why now.

 

To be fair to Sky, given the amount they pay for it, I'm sure they value SL quite highly. It's just the other parts of the sport that they clearly dont put as high a value on. As for the Leeds v Warrington game, I detected a great deal of positivity. Just unfortunate it was only directed towards one of the teams.

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Typical BBC r.l. audience figure 2,000,000.

Typical Sky   r.l audience figure    200,000.

 

Wonder what the advertisers think?!

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yes, 10 games plus BOTH semis on the BBC would be acceptable

also, looking on the bright side: " BBC's deal also includes the Four Nations tournaments in 2014 and 2016 and the next World Cup in 2017.'

At least that means RL fans are guaranteed a Four Nations tournament in 2014 and 2016 and a World Cup in 2017 i.e. a bit of international RL forward calendar planning: incredible !!!

and 2015? An Ashes tour? Great Britain v Oz?

or a ridiculous expansion of the WCC ?

 

I thought next year's 4 Nations was supposed to be in Oz? I assumed that Sky already had a deal in place to show the UK based 4 Nations, hence why 2015 wasn't mentioned in the BBC deal.

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Typical BBC r.l. audience figure 2,000,000.

Typical Sky r.l audience figure 200,000.

Wonder what the advertisers think?!

pretty sure the bbc figures very rarely reach that level.

I hope the RFL knows what its doing with the England strategy. They seem to want these games on thr bbc - which makes it less attractive to Sky who are the company most likely to pay big money and do the whole tournament.

I know its fashionable to bash sky, but pretty much every pub you walk into has sky sports or sports news on the tv. This tournament wont benefit from that exposure or 6m worth of build up.

Bbc have had internatiinal coverage for a few years now - even if just highlights and the sponsors and media are not flocking to the game.

I wonder if we are being too desperate trying to get terrestrial coverage.

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I thought 2,000,000 was a bit conservative Dave, especially for international matches.

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I thought 2,000,000 was a bit conservative Dave, especially for international matches.

 

Sure I read somewhere that last years Internationals on the BBC were under the 1 million mark. Obviously, a WC with games like England v Aus would get bigger numbers, but considering the figures for most shows on terrestrial TV nowadays, 2m probably wouldn't be too bad.

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What about people who live abroad and can see it on the beeb but not on ps? Can they complain?

No, because they're not supposed to watch BBC channels if they're not paying a licence fee

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As i said in a previous post, i think the BBC will have to have a complete turnaround in attitude to broadcasting rugby league for this to be anything other than what we've had in the past with internationals and four nations.

 

The four nations has never really been treated as a tournament by the beeb, just a series of matches played weekly.

 

i guess at this stage we can only hope things will be vastly different, but after god knows how many years of hoping for that i'm not confident.

 

I would be interested to know if the other UK TV networks were approached to show games, ie ITV Ch4 and Ch5

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What about if they pay the appropriate copyright licence to be provided access for that country, as I do?

 

 

No, because they're not supposed to watch BBC channels if they're not paying a licence fee

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I would be interested to know if the other UK TV networks were approached to show games, ie ITV Ch4 and Ch5

ITV do show a lot of sport, especially on ITV4, but the coverage is pretty poor quality, and they'd probably not want to annoy the RUWC lot by fraternising with the enemy. Channel 4 have pretty much put all their eggs in the basket of monopolising horse racing coverage and not a lot else. Channel 5 have heavily cut back their sport content since the porn baron bought the channel.

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it's hardly been greeted with much enthusiasm

Yes, that's quite out of character for Rugby League isn't it?

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Some interesting (ahem) comments under this Yahoo news story

 

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/world-of-sport/bbc-finally-beats-sky-rights-sporting-event-113216793.html

 

I know you can't go by everything you read on the Internet, but it's hardly been greeted with much enthusiasm

 What's interesting about most of the comments is the ignorance of the posters.

 

 - Hardly watched sport

 - A number of people confusing RL with RU

 

We need this tournament and England to do well to ensure these myths are well and truly abolished

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 What's interesting about most of the comments is the ignorance of the posters.

 

 - Hardly watched sport

 - A number of people confusing RL with RU

 

We need this tournament and England to do well to ensure these myths are well and truly abolished

 

Spot on

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I really hope that they get Brian carney and Jon wells onto the bbc commentary, informed opinion without filling the shorty dumb northerner stereotype which seems to get pumped out, plus, I'm already cringing at the thought of Jonathan Davies getting names wrong!

Which part of the north is Jonathan Davies from?

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Surely, at the VERY least, the BBC must show BOTH semis, and hopefully ALL FOUR Q/Fs … surely !!!???

To quote the Premier Sports website:

 

"Three quarter finals and one semi-final will be completely exclusive to the channel"  So the BBC will only be covering one of the four quarter-finals and one of the semis live.

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To quote the Premier Sports website:

 

"Three quarter finals and one semi-final will be completely exclusive to the channel"  So the BBC will only be covering one of the four quarter-finals and one of the semis live.

 

That is a DREADFUL outcome …

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That is a DREADFUL outcome …

Agreed, absolutely shocking and hopefully they can find some way to back out of the deal.

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There is a big positive to FTA coverage in that not all the UK population has subscription satellite TV and kids with access to a TV set will watch the XIII code rather than XV code of "Rugby" this autumn.

They might even be happy that England crush the rugby giants of Ireland and Fiji and follow the side through to the final. The game has the platform it just needs the quality on the field to attract a new audience.

It's also beneficial that the poor quality games with blowout scores between sides of dubious origin are on a low subscription satellite channel and thus hidden from public consciousness and with slick editing in the highlights show, this can be made to look a lot better than it will be at the ground.

Interesting that Yahoo does not go into figures and I suspect there are some forced smiles down under with the total financial package. SKY offered a low bid, and if we go back to comments from Mike Stevenson in The Times just before the grand final that in his opinion the World Cup would not capture the public imagination you can see why SKY chose to commit their resources elsewhere despite it would appear a last ditch effort by RLWC organisers to get the channel on board

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Don't forget that the BBC doesn't have a dedicated sports channel and has to fit us in with their other contractural obligations.

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Don't forget that the BBC doesn't have a dedicated sports channel and has to fit us in with their other contractural obligations.

 

Just to be clear, although their red button service is not dedicated to sport, it is heavily used for it including matches from the women's world cup in football, tennis, formula 1 sessions, PRO12 rugby matches in England, NFL games etc. that would not otherwise be shown on one of the main channels.  This use of it was supported by the BBC Trust in their previous review of the service.

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That is a DREADFUL outcome …

fantastic deal for me only you tight arsed folk are complaining get your seven pounds spent and enjoy the greatest game.

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