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Wakefield New Stadium

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You can view the elevation plans for the new stadium here

http://cominoweb.wakefield.gov.uk/Planning/lg/dialog.page?Param=lg.Planning&org.apache.shale.dialog.DIALOG_NAME=gfplanningsearch&SDescription=13/00766/REM&viewdocs=true

Before the sceptics get going, these are not another artists impression but the actuall submitted plans for the stadium at Newmarket.

This is a link to the WMDC Planning Portal and the documents are those which the Public Inquiry called for.

Everything has been submitted and a significant payment made.

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Not being sceptical. .. but where do you think you get 'artists impressions' from?

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Not being sceptical. .. but where do you think you get 'artists impressions' from?

Fag packets?beer mats?backs of envelopes?

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Not being sceptical. .. but where do you think you get 'artists impressions' from?

Artists?

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Not being sceptical. .. but where do you think you get 'artists impressions' from?

In the past I think some of them were knocked up on a computer in the back office at Belle Vue.

It's easy and cheap to knock up an image that newspapers can attach to an article but these are actual drawings from the architect which have been submitted to the Wakefield Metropolitan District Councils planning department as part of a much larger set of documents.

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You can view the elevation plans for the new stadium here

http://cominoweb.wakefield.gov.uk/Planning/lg/GFPlanningDocuments.page

Before the sceptics get going, these are not another artists impression but the actuall submitted plans for the stadium at Newmarket.

This is a link to the WMDC Planning Portal and the documents are those which the Public Inquiry called for.

Everything has been submitted and a significant payment made.

 

An actuall (sic) submitted plan? It's virtually built then. ;)

 

Seriously, not sure that link is working.

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An actuall (sic) submitted plan? It's virtually built then. ;)

 

Seriously, not sure that link is working.

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OK well maybe they should just put the stadium up overnight without adhering to the planning process or referring to any plans.

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Still a fair way to go before it becomes a reality although everything I've heard sounds positive. Having said that I'm not sure how far up nice shiny new stadiums are on the RFL's agenda is these days.

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not being sceptical but Cas have detailed architects drawings and planning permission

The difference being that you've had them for years and years and everyone now knows that you aren't going to build the stadium.

Under the auspices of the PI the developers at Newmarket were obliged to submit these plans and make a substantial payment LAST WEEK and did so. If we're still in the same position in nearly 4 years time I'll be as sceptical as the next man. In the meantime, The Developers can only follow the prescribed route through the planning process.

Whilst I nod in acknowledgment about the false dawns and scrapped stadium schemes of the past, Wakefield Trinity and it's partners have never been this far down the route of a new stadium, have never been this close before and there's never been a fraction of this amount of money, time or effort put into a new stadium.

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not dismissing that in any way, and the words I'm hearing are all positive for Wakey, I was merely pointing out that the plans in the OP don't tell anybody a great deal

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OK well maybe they should just put the stadium up overnight without adhering to the planning process or referring to any plans.

Ok well maybe Wakey shouldn't have lied so much about previous plans over the past decade or more, then folks wouldn't be so cynical.

 

I genuinely hope you get a new ground.

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Which lies?

 

Sigh.

 

Omega seems to know what he's talking about and he says

 

 

In the past I think some of them were knocked up on a computer in the back office at Belle Vue.

 

that for me, suggests that efforts by the previous board at Wakey were dishonest. Those lies.

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Is this an all-seater then? Or mixed? And if so, which stands will be terraced?

I think if any new stadium is going to be partly terraced, they should copy the Wire model of one down the side and one on the end and not the Leigh/Saints model of having then on the ends. Offers far more variety then.

What capacity are we looking at here?

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I'm working on a job with Dla as lead designers at the moment. Our site plan is quite similar in that there is the building we are building shown in more detail than the 2 units attached tho the development that have yet to be sold. What concerns me is that this development is dependant on the adjoining sheds being bought up first if my understanding is correct.

I'll have a word with my contacts at Dla and see where they are with finding a client.

By the way, I really hope it gets built and I would love to work on it.

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Sigh.

 

Omega seems to know what he's talking about and he says

 

that for me, suggests that efforts by the previous board at Wakey were dishonest. Those lies.

That's a strange conclusion to arrive at from what I said!

I've never once inferred that previous attempts at developing a stadium were lies, you've read what you want into it even though there's no suggestion of deceit whatsoever.

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Lovely stuff, this stage of planning permission is a mere formality isn't it?

 

Well done to all concerned to get this far!

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I'm working on a job with Dla as lead designers at the moment. Our site plan is quite similar in that there is the building we are building shown in more detail than the 2 units attached tho the development that have yet to be sold. What concerns me is that this development is dependant on the adjoining sheds being bought up first if my understanding is correct.

I'll have a word with my contacts at Dla and see where they are with finding a client.

By the way, I really hope it gets built and I would love to work on it.

Your understanding is no longer 100% correct!

The sale or lease of the units, which was once THE essential prerequisite to releasing the funding, whilst still a major source of finance it is now less crucial to the stadium project, at worst It now acts as a cast iron safety net, as laid out within the PI.

Since the SoS rubber stamped the OPP there have been further major developments in terms of new partners coming on board and hence new funding sources becoming available.

Some of these new partners offer exciting improvements to the sports and stadia development and make that part of the project much more significant.

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Well, it certainly sounds more concrete than anything else so far.

 

Good luck, Trinity. Hope it all goes smoothly from now on.

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Everything is looking good and from what I'm hearing Sir Rodney Walker's hard work is paying off with new partners wanting to be involved in the project.

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That's a strange conclusion to arrive at from what I said!

I've never once inferred that previous attempts at developing a stadium were lies, you've read what you want into it even though there's no suggestion of deceit whatsoever.

 

Not really. Previous plans were far from 100% serious but were marketed as such.

 

OTherwise, why would it have taken 14 years to get where you are today?

 

Somewhere along the line a few exagerrations slipped in, the odd porkie, a dash of wishful thinking and a dose of pure fantasy. I think there were times when the old board were economical with the truth about what was going on. YOu think not, but happily report that things sold to the public as serious building plans were simply knocked up on a PC at Belle Vue. Ho hum.

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In the past I think some of them were knocked up on a computer in the back office at Belle Vue.

It's easy and cheap to knock up an image that newspapers can attach to an article but these are actual drawings from the architect which have been submitted to the Wakefield Metropolitan District Councils planning department as part of a much larger set of documents.

YOu think not, but happily report that things sold to the public as serious building plans were simply knocked up on a PC at Belle Vue. Ho hum.

I never mentioned "serious building plans", I said it wouldn't surprise me if the artists impressions used alongside Media releases were knocked up on a computer at Belle Vue?

You keep making it up as you go along if you like but it's become evident that you've got a bug up your A$$ about it and you're making yourself look foolish.

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its perfectly possible to knock up decent plans on a computer at Belle Vue or anywhere else these day.  So all the best to Wakefield and I trust all their hard work pays off.

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