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Its been reported he's gone to London Bronco's on loan,Was this lad one of the players you signed on contract from Warrington?.

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Its been reported he's gone to London Bronco's on loan,Was this lad one of the players you signed on contract from Warrington?.

 

Have looked back and he wasn't one of the 6........damn :rolleyes:

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Looks like your mob will be grateful for some loanees after yesterday. ..then again your agreement isn't like everyone elses is it? Ha ha

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No was dual reg with us this year, then we signed him and was

dual reg with leigh last year. Do I detect bitterness?

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Not from me,and quite frankly im not that bothered anymore.

I'm just fascinated how all this is going to devolop over the next 18 months

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Might as well moan about it on here over and over again. COPY...PASTE

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If we signed him why has it been reported he's on loan from Warrington?

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Isn't it amazing how some of us are all ready to crucify one of our local media when they screw up

facts when reporting on the Lions, but when they report something that fits with the most recent conspiracy theory, some of us are all ready to accept it on face value?

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Its nothing new for Tony Rea to target young British players from the part time clubs and try to tempt them to give London a go. One of his previous targets from the Lions was Andy Coley.

Comes down to two key factors; the particular circumstances of the Broncos (the amateur and schools game local to them is getting stronger, but there is still some way to go), and; the commonly adopted contract conditions that nowadays give SL clubs carte blanc to cherry pick young players without paying a transfer fee.

In some ways 'fair play' to Tony Rea, both for taking the opportunity left open to him and for giving young guys with potential a chance at the top level. Its far from a satisfactory situation for the part time clubs to be left in, though.

It leads us as a game towards the situation where part time clubs don't see it as being in their best interests to spend anything on developing their own players.

Short of the part time clubs working together to put an end to SL opt out clauses in player contracts, the only way I can see around this problem nowadays would be for the RFL to insist on certain standards of youth development at each club. But considering the direction of travel with what they've done with SL academies that hardly seems likely.

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Plus I cannot believe for one moment that this deal has not been ratified by Tony Smith.

He's now got Matty Blythe on loan at Bradford, Brad Dwyer at Huddersfield and James Mendeika at London. All goes to show - the priority for Warrington is rightly on the development of their own players and if opportunity presents itself the preferred option is to have them on loan with another club in Super League rather than at. Swinton Lions.

People should be under no illusions about where Swinton Lions stand in the pecking order.

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Well they're second in your pecking order. ...

Sorry couldn't resist another jibe

Doubt will miss him to be honest. Ive not noticed him stand out so far. Hes never ever a stand off.

As for the politics behind it I don't give a stuff

Which player wouldn't want to play in super league? Its no different than the way Al Hurst left us and he was a Swinton player not DR not on loan not anything but.

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Well they're second in your pecking order. ...

Sorry couldn't resist another jibe

Doubt will miss him to be honest. Ive not noticed him stand out so far. Hes never ever a stand off.

As for the politics behind it I don't give a stuff

Which player wouldn't want to play in super league? Its no different than the way Al Hurst left us and he was a Swinton player not DR not on loan not anything but.

 

Its not totally black and white -  there are instances where players have had an opportunity to play in Super League but decided against.  Its a question of personal circumstances.  The money on offer even at the top of RL isn't in the astronomical range, so if a player has prospects of an alternative, relatively well paid job that is likely to be more secure and last longer than his RL playing career it can be a difficult call to give it up.  Tom Armstrong being a current example of someone that's decided playing part time suits at the moment.

 

Yes - what happened with Al Hurst is symptomatic of the problem.  In my view that's not a satisfactory situation and its one that is currently damaging the overall health of RL, especially the health of the clubs outside Super League and the development of young players.  In my view its therefore a situation that ought to be fought against.  Sadly, reflected by your take on things, everyone seems to have accepted there is no real option to fight and its better to just roll over and be content being a puppy to the Super League clubs nowadays.  It's at the heart of the reasons why attendances across the Championship are dropping like a stone if you ask me - the competition is fast losing any credibility.

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Ive merely accepted that most players are keen to be full time players rather thsn digging a ditch all week and flogging their guts out every weekend

My attitude or take on things is only sad given your take on my post which as usual you have spun to be something you believe it to be rsther than what it is

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I was sure someone has already posted on here that swintons attendances for the first 5 home games were up on the same fixtures last year. An that is with the unusually bad weather so far.

If attendnces are falling, I blame boring modern rugby. Look how well fax are doing and the fans were unhappy with the style of play!

Also saw a small piece in the advertiser (nee journal) about the latest folly superstar.......on wigans books. Would it be any different even at that level if we had a youth set up?

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Speaking of smoke and mirrors what about salfords owners asking the rugby league to let them break the salary cap, its not as if they stick to the rules as it is.

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Ive merely accepted that most players are keen to be full time players rather thsn digging a ditch all week and flogging their guts out every weekend

My attitude or take on things is only sad given your take on my post which as usual you have spun to be something you believe it to be rsther than what it is

Or perhaps what you have done is make a generalisation that the only career option a RL player can have outside of the sport is low paid manual labour. Quite insulting of you.

The most positive response to the loss of players (not only to Super League but also to clubs higher up the Championship) is to grow income, such that Swinton Lions would be more capable of retaining them. It seems to me that both Mssrs Kidd and yourself have lost the hope and belief that the club can ever feasibly grow its income much beyond what it is today. So the entire basis on which the club is now being run is to operate with minimum overheads.

If I've got that one wrong, perhaps you can confirm that you believe the club isn't presently achieving its full potential and be specific about the reasons why.

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More spin Phil. You are a joke

I merely used digging ditches as an example. When I'm at work and colleagues are moaning about their lot I often say it could be worse you could be digging a ditch for a living. I don't think its a rare expression!

Im well aware we have teachers and it experts in our ranks

I have never ever lost hope. That sir is your department.

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Mark, maybe you can deliver your answer in the IIMARCH format and possibly ensure, if you are going to make any recommendations, they are SMART?

Blah, blah PhillH, really don't know why you come on here, apart from the obvious to wind people up???

Stand by for ridiculously lengthy reply with numerous links to your vastly superior grip on the world and condescending manner.

I do concede that the written word can be misinterpreted, but that's how you come across to me.

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Philh, with so called fans like you and citizen caine and a few other mouth almightys Swinton as no chance what so ever of reaching it's potential. A true fan is one who supports the club through thick or thin, rain or shine. What we don't need are the Johnny come latelys preaching there so called advice to us.As true fans we know full well what the situation is we don't need you to tell us, it's becoming groung hog day.

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The only insulting thing on here Phil seem to be your replies. You seem to be a troll masquerading as an intellectual. Shame im sure there is someone nice under all that vindictiveness.Somewhere.

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This Mendeika thing, I'm at a loss as to all this, Swinton Signed him on as a player on a 12 month contract. I am led to beleive this is correct, If this is indeed the case then why would he train full time with Warrington ?. Also why would Swinton Allow a player who is/was of suffient quality for you to sign him off warrington in the first place go to London on a LOAN, If it was that he signed for london then fair enough there coulod be some recompence for this, but loaning him out. I'm afraid it looks as though the whole DR| stinks and that Warrington/Swinton are indeed breaking the rules that were clearly written on the back of a fag packet. I'm not having a go at swinton but surely even those with the rosiest swinton glasses on can see this as a charade.

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Yawn.!! Alex Hurst signed for us.....London came in and offered Alex a place (accepted on a full time contract after trials) the club didn't stand in his way and rightly so since youngsters have to be allowed to play at the highest level. The same situation applies to Mendeka despite the fact he is on a season long loan.

Lets say the club dug it's heels in and said no to both of those examples then do you not think it leads to unhappy players.

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