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Yes once again the negs never mention the three excellent signings made by the club as it doesn't fit in with the eeyore way of looking at the club. Getting very boring now.:(

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I assume you have loaned Glenn Riley to Warrington seeing as he's been named in their squad for Sunday ?

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I assume you have loaned Glenn Riley to Warrington seeing as he's been named in their squad for Sunday ?

Why are you asking us?

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Why are you asking us?

Well he is one of your bona fide signed players......isn't he ?

Very charitable of your club to loan him out, especially as he won't be able to play for you for 4 weeks afterwards.

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I loaned him out (even though I think he's D/R). Warrington needed a player and the SL experience will do him a world of good. This is RL Manager 2013 right?

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I loaned him out (even though I think he's D/R). Warrington needed a player and the SL experience will do him a world of good. This is RL Manager 2013 right?

He's not DR, he was one of the 6 who were transferred and whom Swinton hold the playing registrations for. The RFL confirmed the 6 players as :-

J Mendeika

J Morrison

J Burke

R Shaw

G Ormsby

G Riley

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Love all this. lots of none Swinton fans ripping into Swinton. Im sure the terminology is troll. after all what can we do about it.

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Love all this. lots of none Swinton fans ripping into Swinton. Im sure the terminology is troll. after all what can we do about it.

 

Not trolling at all, actually I feel sorry for you Lions fans. Your own club is taking the #### out of you but if you're ok with that then good luck to you. If you're happy that your club loans one of your own players (allegedly) to Warrington because they want to rest some of their stars and in the process it means he can't play for your for a minimum of 28 days afterwards then quite frankly I find that bizarre in the extreme. If it was my own club I'd be demanding answers, not defending the indefensible. Each to his own though, best of luck for the rest of the season.

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Even i'm getting bored with the D/R debate now, it's been debated/trolled to death now, the fag packet the rl thought the dr rules up on stinks as much as the situation's regarding it, hopefully it will get changed at the end of the season.

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Nobody has defended what has happened recently. It's all nonsense, we do not make the rules.

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Its now about the sincerity of the player?

Make your mind up which argument it is.

Im sure none of us think any of this situation is ideal.

Its rugby league so its all a huge cock up

The difference for me is I don't believe its such a big deal that I have to remove my support for something whos existence is tenuous ,even if you're being generous, at best

We ALL know things are far from perfect at our own club and many others.

I certainly don't need a pseudo intellectual breakdown of such insulting condescension from anyone as to what and why something is not perfect

The concentration on one negative aspect has become ridiculous.

The signing of the three none DR players this week gives a clear hint at a plan for the future. No histrionics on that thread. In fact barely a word spoken

Good or bad its time to man up and get behind our team

And it is BLUND LOYALTY. Its not a bad thing

Its what makes us true fans

I hope you can find that same feeling at Leigh

 

 

You're the one throwing personal style insults around, Mark - its unfortunate this is sometimes how you express frustration when we don't agree on something.

 

As you are well aware, the debate is about the nature of how partnering has been done between Swinton and Warrington with a central topic being the validity of the 12 month contracts that 6 players signed to supposedly make them Swinton players rather than Warrington players.  There is new material this week that takes the debate forwards, as its pretty clear the deal taking James Mendeika to London was negotiated between London and Warrington directly.

 

I get the impression that this week's developments may have changed the perceptions of quite a few people about the true nature of these 12 month deals. While I always had very serious doubts about the basis of these contracts, seeing those doubts possibly come home to roost isn't a cause for personal celebration.

 

I can live with things being less than perfect, which is a good job all things considered(!), but there have to be some fundamentals that embody what Swinton Lions actually means to people - else we'd all have been following East Lancashire Lions since 2008.  For me that means; a respect for the club's great heritage and past achievements, plus; a respect for the club's unique identity which should come from the relationship between Swinton Lions and the communtity whose name it still bears.  You cannot get much more basic than knowing the guys running out onto that field wearing the blue and white are fully committed and focussed on the cause of Swinton Lions and all that should represent, rather than doing their thing as part of their duties to another club.

 

The club's existance is indeed tenuous, but to have any chance of making things better the recovery has to protect and nurture the fundamental things that make Swinton Lions unique and inspire the loyalty to the brand that keeps people engaged and committed.  Otherwise you risk ending up with something that people don't care about, because its relevance to them has been lost. Warrington Wolves reserves in Swinton Lions kit isn't what it should be about. 

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It is unfortunate that I express myself in such a way when I am frustrated! !

Im still laughing.

Hes not the Messiah hes a very naughty boy

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Have the wheels fell off the Leigh bus, that your now back on here slating the Lions Phil.

Perhaps Mr Rowley and co could do with the benefit of your extensive knowledge.

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Got to say I agree with everything Phil says one hundred per cent! An excellent post.

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We must be the only club on the planet with a section of 'support' that openly wants the club to fail. I think you all need to have a good long hard look at yourselves!

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Cheers dave

I guess I've really goi it all wrong if you agree 100 percent including the first paragraph.

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Sorry I meant to say I agree one hundred per cent with Phils views on the DR debate!

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Ha. Thanks .. I felt a right t$#t for a minute

I think we all agree its not ideal

I don't think we need any of the obvious failings of the rugby league or Swinton pointing out so regularly as though we don't understand. It gets on peoples nerves. So much so even Julian has had enough!

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No.one wants us to fail, on the contrary we want the club to move forward in an autonomous fashion. I haven't seen any benefit from the link with Warrington that preserves the name and identity of Swinton Lions.

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I think Mark that the developments this week with Mendieka and Riley have unfortunately fuelled the fire as it were!

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Its just possible I suppose that the RFL have been somewhat duped by the bending and twisting of the Swinton six`s ( or at least two of them) too`ings and fro`ings lately?

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