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19/04/13 - ANZAC Test: Australia v New Zealand (Premier Sports)

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  1. 1. Who will win?

    • Australia by 13 points or more
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    • Australia by 7 to 12 points
      6
    • Australia by 1 to 6 points
      0
    • Draw
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    • New Zealand by 1 to 6 points
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    • New Zealand by 7 to 12 points
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    • New Zealand by 13 points or more
      1

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Well it seems to me that I am actually incorrect if indeed there is a sell out.

 

Me, I couldn't give a hoot who won. i hope they beat the hell out of each other and weaken the two nations.

 

While aiming to win, the main international prize is at the end of the year and I think that this is reflected in the NZ lineup and the drop outs due to injury. 

 

Oz by 18+ still and Cameron Smith to raise the trophy with as much satisfaction as he did lifting the WCC (did anyone else notice?) which is played 5 months too late.

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It takes Test Match Rugby League to places that would normally not see it, this helps build the game in those areas.

The fact that New Zealand do not have a great track record in these games does not make the game worthless.

Its the best Team in the World v the current World Champions.

Hardly a comparison with England V Wales or England V France is it?

RLIF World Rankings.

1 (1) Australia 1,303.00

2 (2) New Zealand 916.00

3 (3) England 671.00

4 (5) France 267.00

5 (6) Wales 227.00

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Its on Premier Sport so I can't get it on cable - bummer!

 

According to the article in 40/20 this isn't likely to change anytime soon either.

 

 

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It takes Test Match Rugby League to places that would normally not see it, this helps build the game in those areas.

The fact that New Zealand do not have a great track record in these games does not make the game worthless.

Its the best Team in the World v the current World Champions.

Hardly a comparison with England V Wales or England V France is it?

RLIF World Rankings.

1 (1) Australia 1,303.00

2 (2) New Zealand 916.00

3 (3) England 671.00

4 (5) France 267.00

5 (6) Wales 227.00

Indeed - I find it mental that a RL 'fan' would describe any international game as worthless. 

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Indeed - I find it mental that a RL 'fan' would describe any international game as worthless.

Dave, some games do not work and can do more harm than good, not all Tests are good.

Uneven contests where the results are forgone conclusions do not do much to attract Crowds or build the game.

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Dave, some games do not work and can do more harm than good, not all Tests are good.

Uneven contests where the results are forgone conclusions do not do much to attract Crowds or build the game.

 

In isolation a game like you describe could be seen as a negative, but looked at as part of a long-term strategy even these kind of games can be valuable.

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In isolation a game like you describe could be seen as a negative, but looked at as part of a long-term strategy even these kind of games can be valuable.

Whats your thoughts on the Exiles series in preference to Test matches?

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Whats your thoughts on the Exiles series in preference to Test matches?

I think they can both exist rather than instead of.

 

England need to do whatever they can to get competitive opponents for their own development purposes.

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Why is jamal idris never selected? racism springs to mind!!!!! Hope I'm wrong.

Yes, yes! It's racism.

Obviously, as Australia never pick the likes of Thurston, Thaiday, Bird and over the years NEVER picked Civ, even though he was one of the top props in the world! Bloody Racists!!!

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Just to add to that, the reason Idris doesnt get picked is because he is good, not great. His defence for a big guy can be shocking at times and he goes missing too often. With the wealth of quality the Aussies have in the 3/4 line, you can't pick someone like that.

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I have nothing against the celebration of Anzacs and the war dead. I just don't think that this game has any meaning to the representative game. A world cup later this year, S.O.O. to come very shortly. In November when the World Cup is won or lost, who will care if they won the Anzac test earlier in the year. No mid-season internationals when there are end of season internationals planned. 

 

If it meant anything to the RL public in Aus, they would be there in huge numbers. It doesn't, so they won't.

 

Don't give me celebration of the Anzacs either. This fixture was started as a poor answer to the annual Anzac day game between Essendon and Carlton.

 

Wow, and I genuinely thought Rugby League IN Australia was the first sport to hold any ANZAC game and games some 40+ years before the VFL even thought of it, btw, I don't follow AFL, but it's Essendon vs Collingwood.

 

Also, did you know that when you first stated the test would not reach 20,000, they'd already sold 24,000?

 

I think the last 5 ANZAC tests have sold out, Melbourne, Newcastle, SCG, Melbourne and Canberra, obviously not in that order.

 

One other thing to add, and I will back this up in a day or two when they come out, every time an ANZAC test is played on FTA TV in Australia, it just so happens to rate higher than every NRL, AFL game outside the finals series, and sometimes they don't even come close, the only sports to beat those ratings on FTA each year are the AFL grand final, the NRL grand final and the 3 SOO matches. Once in a while a Union or Soccer WC will be on and if Australia is going well, those ratings beat the ANZAC test.

 

Yep, that one of the International fixtures we don't care about, Mid week Lions tour would kill them all.

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Btw, that was a dead set rip off, I feel for the Kiwis, but once again, a few bad calls went against them, and bang, that's all the Kangaroos need.

 

Great first 40 though, I could watch that every week.

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but once again, a few bad calls went against them (the opposition), and bang, that's all the Kangaroos need.

You could apply that quote to almost any test match over the last 30 years - except perhaps the last World Cup final.

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Wow, and I genuinely thought Rugby League IN Australia was the first sport to hold any ANZAC game and games some 40+ years before the VFL even thought of it, btw, I don't follow AFL, but it's Essendon vs Collingwood.

 

Also, did you know that when you first stated the test would not reach 20,000, they'd already sold 24,000?

 

I think the last 5 ANZAC tests have sold out, Melbourne, Newcastle, SCG, Melbourne and Canberra, obviously not in that order.

 

One other thing to add, and I will back this up in a day or two when they come out, every time an ANZAC test is played on FTA TV in Australia, it just so happens to rate higher than every NRL, AFL game outside the finals series, and sometimes they don't even come close, the only sports to beat those ratings on FTA each year are the AFL grand final, the NRL grand final and the 3 SOO matches. Once in a while a Union or Soccer WC will be on and if Australia is going well, those ratings beat the ANZAC test.

 

Yep, that one of the International fixtures we don't care about, Mid week Lions tour would kill them all.

Thanks for your pedantic-ism, I did mention in the very next post that I meant Collingwood. The fact that RL played it 40 years ago is not valid to the argument. My point was that this annual series in its present format was set up following the success of the Anzac Day AFL match.

 

Hey look, great, sold out. Another point I conceded that perhaps I was going to be wrong. But nice of you to bring that up again. 

 

I have doubts that the last five have been sell outs but I will take your word as it doesn't alter my opinion. I hazard to guess that 2008 and 2009 were not sell outs after looking at Wiki.

 

My opinion is that this game was meaningless. What was the point of it? Will the Kiwis really be that aggrieved they lost? I doubt it. Would the Aussies? maybe a bit more than the kiwis. 2013 is the World Cup year and that is all any of the nations will care about.

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what was score? no trace of the match existing on the bbc rl website page!

 

32-12 to the Aussies (6-6 at Half Time)

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My opinion is that this game was meaningless. What was the point of it? Will the Kiwis really be that aggrieved they lost? I doubt it. Would the Aussies? maybe a bit more than the kiwis. 2013 is the World Cup year and that is all any of the nations will care about.

 

Interesting opinion. But I'm sure the Kiwis will be aggrieved that they've lost to the Aussies again. It's probably why Stephen Kearney has come out and bemoaned the tries denied them in the first half, and why they've questioned the validity of at least one of the Aussie tries. I'm pretty sure that the Kiwis would love to have the sort of record over the Kangaroos that the Aussies have over the Kiwis, and if they did, I'm sure the Aussies would be aggreived as well. Both teams played today for both a piece of silverware (the Bill Kelly trophy) but also national pride and, being professional sportsmen, personal pride. I doubt any Kiwi likes to lose any sporting contest to the Aussies - World Cup year or not.

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The aussies and the kiwis played like it meant something to them

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Thanks for your pedantic-ism, I did mention in the very next post that I meant Collingwood. The fact that RL played it 40 years ago is not valid to the argument. My point was that this annual series in its present format was set up following the success of the Anzac Day AFL match.

 

Hey look, great, sold out. Another point I conceded that perhaps I was going to be wrong. But nice of you to bring that up again. 

 

I have doubts that the last five have been sell outs but I will take your word as it doesn't alter my opinion. I hazard to guess that 2008 and 2009 were not sell outs after looking at Wiki.

 

My opinion is that this game was meaningless. What was the point of it? Will the Kiwis really be that aggrieved they lost? I doubt it. Would the Aussies? maybe a bit more than the kiwis. 2013 is the World Cup year and that is all any of the nations will care about.

 

Yes the SCG and Newcastle were under construction, but they still sold out.

 

You jumped in and said it wouldn't get 20k when the ANZAC test has not had a crowd under 20k. 

 

And it is not meaningless, how can it be when year after year it seems to be getting bigger and better and actually giving International RL a much needed boost? It's averaging around 30k a year and that it taking it to places such as Sydney, Brisbane, Gold Coast, Melbourne, Newcastle, Canberra just in Australia not to mention the same for NZ, who would seriously want to dump something that it crying out for even more growth?

 

That's the thing I like about the Kangaroos, they do take this game to the people and share it around, it seems to be working, they had 30,000 in Melbourne for the game, I hope they eventually take the game to places like Perth and Adelaide to give the game a boost.

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well as usual the the aussies cheat their way to victory, klien is a clown and the aussie game is bent three no try's in the first half against the kiwi's two dead set trys.

this ref decision of giving a no try to the video ref is wrong, wrong, wrong bth times the video ref had no option but to give no try's, but when the aussies had one he gives a try so the video ref has no option but to givethem a try.

bent bent bent.

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For the good of the game there is no way any Aussy refs should be near the Rugby World Cup.

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First 40 was brilliant. NZ went to pieces but the ref was so biased. I agree, keep the cheating gits away from the World Cup

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Ref biased? You mean Ashley Klein?

 

He referreed the 2008 RLWC final - you know, the one the Aussies lost 20-34 because , as then Oz coach Ricky Stuart claimed, the ref (Klein !) was biased !!!

 

No, Oz won fair and square. Hopefully, the Kiwis (and England!) will be better prepared come RLWC 2013

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Ref biased? You mean Ashley Klein?

 

He referreed the 2008 RLWC final - you know, the one the Aussies lost 20-34 because , as then Oz coach Ricky Stuart claimed, the ref (Klein !) was biased !!!

 

No, Oz won fair and square. Hopefully, the Kiwis (and England!) will be better prepared come RLWC 2013

I did not see the match but....

Stop it Jim, you know that Australia has been winning too much for 35 years because of corrupted Refs.

Have neutral Refs and stop the moaning... it just diminishes the game when fans that are not from either team playing whine about Refs decisions.

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