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East Manchester/West Pennines.. is it time?

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Just been reading the thread about the Calder area and wondered if it's time for a similar idea in the east of Manchester? I personally want Oldham to be that team , but the way things are going my grandkids will be lucky to see that team. So..... would s new team encompassing the east of manchester be successful? I know there will be cries of derision and some abuse. But .... what do neutrals in particular think?

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As an Oldham fan, if you look at our crowds and Rochdales we're still about 9000 short of what is required for SL. The only decent ground available would be spotland which wouldn't really work for getting any new fans from manchester. I think Salford are manchesters best (only?) chance to be a big SL club.

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Only reason we're 9000 short is because of the position we're in. Salford is not and never will have the potential of Oldham, ever. Money is the only reason Salford are on the up. 6 months ago Salford were heading the way of the old Oldham club. It grates that the cream of the Oldham amateur set up are playing for other boroughs.

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Just been reading the thread about the Calder area and wondered if it's time for a similar idea in the east of Manchester? I personally want Oldham to be that team , but the way things are going my grandkids will be lucky to see that team. So..... would s new team encompassing the east of manchester be successful? I know there will be cries of derision and some abuse. But .... what do neutrals in particular think?

As a neutral I remember Mo pairing Oldham and salford and calling them Manchester.

Like other mergers they won't happen but I'd guess Koukash would in time chase the best players in Oldham and court the fans.

Sadly Oldham didn't get a ground built and didn't get millionaire owner(s)

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The clubs voted for a fight to the death.

 

Salford are winning the fight.

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Can anyone tell me of any merger,in any sport,which has been successful? i.e. where two teams struggled for whatever reason,be it players,facilities,money,spectators and by merging,they ended up with a stronger Club both playing wise and financially.

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Can anyone tell me of any merger,in any sport,which has been successful? i.e. where two teams struggled for whatever reason,be it players,facilities,money,spectators and by merging,they ended up with a stronger Club both playing wise and financially.

 

Up Holland and Wigan Wasps seems to have been a rather successful merger.

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Can anyone tell me of any merger,in any sport,which has been successful? i.e. where two teams struggled for whatever reason,be it players,facilities,money,spectators and by merging,they ended up with a stronger Club both playing wise and financially.

 

Inverness Caley Thistle.

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The clubs voted for a fight to the death.

Salford are winning the fight.

thats a good point. However an Oldham/Salford merger wouldn't work. I'm thinking of an east west Manchester split. Salford being the west and Oldham/Rochdale being the east. With investment it could work and could entice more Mancunians to embrace one or the other ala city v united!?

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thats a good point. However an Oldham/Salford merger wouldn't work. I'm thinking of an east west Manchester split. Salford being the west and Oldham/Rochdale being the east. With investment it could work and could entice more Mancunians to embrace one or the other ala city v united!?

That would be up to the two clubs involved, where would they play?

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That would be up to the two clubs involved, where would they play?

The way I'm looking at this is that the RL in their wisdom say that there will be a SL franchise available in the east of Manchester and invite tenders. So if Oldham and Rochdale wish to bid, either together or independently then that's up yo them. What I am saying is that there is potential and it needs investment to fulfil it. At the moment that potential is dying on its feet.

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What about the rumored/proposed new club playing out of Belle View? I'd have thought from the off they'd be a more natural merger candidate for Oldham than Salford.

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What about the rumored/proposed new club playing out of Belle View? I'd have thought from the off they'd be a more natural merger candidate for Oldham than Salford.

That rumours come about because of the upgrade to the speedway track. Whether it has legs I doubt it.

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The way I'm looking at this is that the RL in their wisdom say that there will be a SL franchise available in the east of Manchester and invite tenders. So if Oldham and Rochdale wish to bid, either together or independently then that's up yo them. What I am saying is that there is potential and it needs investment to fulfil it. At the moment that potential is dying on its feet.

It only has potential if there is an SL standard ground for them to play in.

 

I don't see one.

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It only has potential if there is an SL standard ground for them to play in.

I don't see one.

depends on who bids and who invests? Who has the vision?

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That rumours come about because of the upgrade to the speedway track. Whether it has legs I doubt it.

Granted I haven't seen anything more substantiated than a newspaper article, but it certainly reads like there might be something in it.

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Granted I haven't seen anything more substantiated than a newspaper article, but it certainly reads like there might be something in it.

 

So it's not an SL bid.

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Just been reading the thread about the Calder area and wondered if it's time for a similar idea in the east of Manchester? I personally want Oldham to be that team , but the way things are going my grandkids will be lucky to see that team. So..... would s new team encompassing the east of manchester be successful? I know there will be cries of derision and some abuse. But .... what do neutrals in particular think?

Twelve months ago, I may have agreed with you. Salford were struggling and there was a potential gap in the market to rival them.

Not now though. Lots has changed already since The Dr and Ed Farish have arrived and more changes are in the pipeline. Now's not the right time.

Rugby league struggles in the Rochdale/ Oldham area as it is, the last thing that is needed is another entity to rival them for players and revenue. The sport needs to be united, not to continually split itself in two.

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Twelve months ago, I may have agreed with you. Salford were struggling and there was a potential gap in the market to rival them.

Not now though. Lots has changed already since The Dr and Ed Farish have arrived and more changes are in the pipeline. Now's not the right time.

Rugby league struggles in the Rochdale/ Oldham area as it is, the last thing that is needed is another entity to rival them for players and revenue. The sport needs to be united, not to continually split itself in two.

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Twelve months ago, I may have agreed with you. Salford were struggling and there was a potential gap in the market to rival them.

Not now though. Lots has changed already since The Dr and Ed Farish have arrived and more changes are in the pipeline. Now's not the right time.

Rugby league struggles in the Rochdale/ Oldham area as it is, the last thing that is needed is another entity to rival them for players and revenue. The sport needs to be united, not to continually split itself in two.

I disagree. Rugby league is alive and well in Oldham but only at amateur level. Also now is the time Salford is in another dimension as far this side of Manchester is concerned. Supporting Salford will be totally alien.

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I disagree. Rugby league is alive and well in Oldham but only at amateur level. Also now is the time Salford is in another dimension as far this side of Manchester is concerned. Supporting Salford will be totally alien.

That's at odds with the recent interview on Manchester Radio a couple of weeks ago when a former Oldham supporter said he was now watching and supporting Salford.

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Supporting Salford will be totally alien.

Not to new supporters it won't. To those new to the game, going to high profile games and watching high profile players in a modern stadium will be the level that they will be most likely to go to.

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