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Brigg Rover

Meli grading

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Have to say that only getting the minimum ban for that grading is very poor. I believe a minimum of 6 games should have been given for that tackle.

What would be very interesting is if Mr Sadler could use his contacts in Oz to see how they would grade and ban that tackle, just as a comparision. We often talk about us being soft in this Country and harder in Oz, could we try and find out?

I think he could have considered himself fortunate if he had got six games, I can't understand how he only got four. It was a sickener.

 

You've got to take your hat off to Graig Hall the way he just got up and carried on (once he regained consciousness that is). He went on to have a very good game too.

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Our opinions differ

 

I agree that Meli has a good disciplinary record (and my choice of wording was to assist my argument) but if we're bringing that in, despite his reputation, Bailey's disciplinary record isn't that bad.

 

You can be an angel with a perfect disciplinary record but if you take someone's head off then to me, 4 games isn't sufficient.

 

I agree with that, Baileys record is actually quite good despite his reputation. I just dont think reputation is used against players when it comes to bans. As i mentioned earlier, Bailey and Wilkin got the same ban for almost identical tackles, as long as the disciplinary are consistent then Its hard to argue against it.

 

What I think is open to argument is the gradings and the length of bans for certain tackles/incidents. I agree what was mentioned previously that the NRL do seem far more strict in relation to discpline, so maybe thats something thats needed here, but the thing i disagreed with was that reputation was a factor in the final ban.

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I agree with that, Baileys record is actually quite good despite his reputation. I just dont think reputation is used against players when it comes to bans. As i mentioned earlier, Bailey and Wilkin got the same ban for almost identical tackles, as long as the disciplinary are consistent then Its hard to argue against it.

 

What I think is open to argument is the gradings and the length of bans for certain tackles/incidents. I agree what was mentioned previously that the NRL do seem far more strict in relation to discpline, so maybe thats something thats needed here, but the thing i disagreed with was that reputation was a factor in the final ban.

You're probably right (although I won't outright admit that) and it's mainly the sceptic and/or bias in me that blurs my vision at times.

 

I think the NRL and dare I say it, RU, are both more strict. It's not tiddlywinks and there's potential for injuries, career ending or worse, so for me bans should serve as both punishment and a deterrent to others

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All I'm getting at is that it's a horror 'tackle' and should be suitably punished. If it were Bailey, Hock or another player with a reputation then I think the punishment would have been harsher

Chase only got three matches last year for breaking the opposition player's jaw and Chase has a worse reputation than Meli, so I think your argument is flawed.

 

Meli could have received four to eight matches.  Four seems fairly reasonable although I wouldn't have protested at six. 

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Cant comment on the Bailey incident as i have not sen it.

Meli is the worse one i have ever seen and thats after watching RL at all levels.

 

It deserved a ten match ban.

I couldn't agree more about him getting a 10 game ban. When will the RFL get serious about this sort of unaccepable foul play?

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Chase only got three matches last year for breaking the opposition player's jaw and Chase has a worse reputation than Meli, so I think your argument is flawed.

 

Meli could have received four to eight matches.  Four seems fairly reasonable although I wouldn't have protested at six. 

 

It just reinforces my point that punishments are insufficient in RL, Chase wasn't sent off either was he? 

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It just reinforces my point that punishments are insufficient in RL, Chase wasn't sent off either was he? 

Nope.  He should have been and he should have been charged with a Grade E.  I struggle to see the difference between Chase's challenge and Meli's to be honest.  Both deserved a Grade E.  But then again, IMO so did Bailey on Fa'asavalu all those years ago but it was legal to smash someone in the face with your shoulder back then so nothing at all was done.  I guess what ban a player gets and for what offence all depends on during what season the offence takes place!  Pot luck really.

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Nope.  He should have been and he should have been charged with a Grade E.  I struggle to see the difference between Chase's challenge and Meli's to be honest.  Both deserved a Grade E.  But then again, IMO so did Bailey on Fa'asavalu all those years ago but it was legal to smash someone in the face with your shoulder back then so nothing at all was done.  I guess what ban a player gets and for what offence all depends on during what season the offence takes place!  Pot luck really.

I think everyone in the game thought the Chase ban was a total joke. Serious acts of foul play such as these should merit very large bans. Travis Burns copped a 9 game ban in Oz for a takle that did not look as bad as that.

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I think everyone in the game thought the Chase ban was a total joke. Serious acts of foul play such as these should merit very large bans. Travis Burns copped a 9 game ban in Oz for a takle that did not look as bad as that.

I know it wasn't to the same degree but his 'tackle' on Hardaker was effectively the same thing, his/was technique is all over the shop if you jump into a shoulder charge

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All I'm getting at is that it's a horror 'tackle' and should be suitably punished. If it were Bailey, Hock or another player with a reputation then I think the punishment would have been harsher

Yes it would because they take a players previous record into account.

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IMO melli should have got at least 8 matches, it was a disgraceful effort which could have seriously injured craig hall.

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IMO melli should have got at least 8 matches, it was a disgraceful effort which could have seriously injured craig hall.

Here is what the RFL Disciplinary Committee said:

 

 

Rule: 15.1( b Detail: High Tackle – Intentional – stiff arm tackle – no attempt to tackle legitimately – violent Grade E

The committee are in no doubt this was a serious act of misconduct and had the potential for serious injury which thankfully did not occur. The committee gives the player credit for admitting guilt to a very reckless tackle. The player does have an excellent disciplinary record over a 15 year first grade career in Super League and the NRL and feel that a 4 match suspension and a £300 fine is appropriate in this in instance.

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Here is what the RFL Disciplinary Committee said:

 

I remember Cowie of Wigan escaping a ban because of his previous good conduct, allowing him to play against the Saints in a cup final.

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