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As in losing his seat?

 

 

Maybe, but he has lost all credibility. He's Deputy Prime Minister. Does anyone really think that he's up to running the country if anything incapacitated Cameron.

 

Not, of course, that he would be given the chance.

 

Remember when he went to Birmingham on the morning after the riots to address the populace? They laughed him out of town.

 

I think of him as as a stick of rock with ineffective bureaucrat written all the way through it.

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Wrong, the BNP breakthrough happened in the Isle of Dogs in East London and it's inaccurate to describe a village outside Burnley as not being part of the Burnley community. For all intents and purposes a village near a town is pretty much a suburb.

 

The Filey result probably has very little to do with migration but bear in mind that half of Harrogate's population do not come from Harrogate (or indeed North Yorkshire). Very many residents of Harrogate come from West Yorkshire originally.

harrogate was in west yorkshire until locsal government reorganisation.

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Nigel Farage again stood out on the AM show on the BBC (Watched it on the internet here:))))

UKIP has been a breath of fresh air to british politics,i suggest also that anyone who thinks this is a flash in the pan is living in cuckoo land this is a wave and a bloody large one at that.

For me Parliament would be a much more interesting place with some real clear blue sea between the government and opposition.

Stuff the champagne socialist parties New Labour/Tories and Lib Dems we need UKIP and OLD Labour:))))

As Nigel Farage says there isnt a cigarette paper between them they are all members of a big cosy westminster elite:(((((

CM

when I think of UKIP I can't seem stop being reminded of an angry Allan Partridge.

 

I have no time for any of the major political parties

 

But I really don't think a group of little englanders slavering over a past society that never actually existed is really going to change the political landscape of the country in a truly significant way.

 

Boston in Lincolnshire is a UKIP hotbed. I find this odd, since without seasonal workers coming from Europe the local agribusiness would go bust. maybe conscription from the inner cities is part of a future manifesto.

 

A major UKIP 'policy' is getting rid of 'political correctness', I wouldn't mind knowing what they mean by this.

 

They plan to get rid of trident though so fair play to them, but I'm not sure what their defence policies are.

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harrogate was in west yorkshire until locsal government reorganisation.

Strictly speaking, it was in the West Riding of Yorkshire. It was never in West Yorkshire.

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A major UKIP 'policy' is getting rid of 'political correctness', I wouldn't mind knowing what they mean by this.

I would imagine that police forces "randomly deselecting white, male applicants" while the race relations industry chiefs applaud enthusiastically might be a good place to start.

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Strictly speaking, it was in the West Riding of Yorkshire. It was never in West Yorkshire.

correct

 

From 1966-9 I nworked fo he west riding constabulary  and hrrogate was a division of it. There was an amalgamation  during that period and various small forces were absorbed to form the west yorkshire police. My error probably stems from that.

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I would imagine that police forces "randomly deselecting white, male applicants" while the race relations industry chiefs applaud enthusiastically might be a good place to start.

I would imgine selection policy for public servants is a little more sophisticated than that. Are you sugesting that inferior candidates are selected because they are of the required ethnicity? What about women?

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Yes it is certainly time we GOT RID of political correctness its complete ###### :) When i get back to Barcelona from Moscow next week i am really going to sort out that lazy blonde latin slapper with the big #### and if she wants she can certainly have a go at this old english roastbeef fart:)))))

 

 

Yes it is certainly time we GOT RID of political correctness its complete ###### :) When i get back to Barcelona from Moscow next week i am really going to sort out that lazy blonde latin slapper with the big #### and if she wants she can certainly have a go at this old english roastbeef fart:)))))

what if he doesn't fancy you?

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Yes it is certainly time we GOT RID of political correctness its complete ###### :) When i get back to Barcelona from Moscow next week i am really going to sort out that lazy blonde latin slapper with the big #### and if she wants she can certainly have a go at this old english roastbeef fart:)))))

The product development team at Walkers are on it as we speak.

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I would imgine selection policy for public servants is a little more sophisticated than that. Are you sugesting that inferior candidates are selected because they are of the required ethnicity? What about women?

I'm suggesting that this was the actual policy used and this has been in the public arena for some time.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1529519/Police-admit-rejecting-job-applicant-for-being-white.html

 

Funnily enough the Guardian and Independent didn't show up when I googled this. One would have thought that a government institution admitting to racist and sexist practices in recruitment was worthy of coverage.

 

edit: another thing UKIP is probably talking about is the ECHR though this is misusing the term "political correctness" in my view.

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I'm suggesting that this was the actual policy used and this has been in the public arena for some time.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1529519/Police-admit-rejecting-job-applicant-for-being-white.html

 

Funnily enough the Guardian and Independent didn't show up when I googled this. One would have thought that a government institution admitting to racist and sexist practices in recruitment was worthy of coverage.

 

But IMHO the issue is this: in certain branches of the public services, people from ethnic minorities, women,  are under-represented. I don't think you need telling why. If addressing this issue(extremely badly in the example you provide), is an example of 'political correctness' and is to be done away with if UKIP have the power to do so, then this im[ortant issue will go unaddressed and our public service incuding he police will be the worse for it.

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But IMHO the issue is this: in certain branches of the public services, people from ethnic minorities, women,  are under-represented. I don't think you need telling why. If addressing this issue(extremely badly in the example you provide), is an example of 'political correctness' and is to be done away with if UKIP have the power to do so, then this im[ortant issue will go unaddressed and our public service incuding he police will be the worse for it.

Yes, but what about Winterval eh? and all those councils that don't put up christmas decorations so as not to offend Moslems and that school where they made the kids wear full PPE to play conkers eh? 

 

The trouble with "Political Correctness" mythology is, in common with much EU mythology (banning bent bananas, rennaming Chocolate "Vegelate" and changing the name of Waterloo Station to "Europe Station") is that no matter how unutterably ludicrous and patently untrue the stories are there is still a small subset of the nation that will believe the stories and will perceive this to be a problem. Combine this with an existing xenophobia and the confusion of the EU with the ECHR and the distorted reporting of many human rights cases by lazy journalists with an agenda they wish to promote and suddenly it's a manifesto for a collection of small minded golf club bores.

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But IMHO the issue is this: in certain branches of the public services, people from ethnic minorities, women,  are under-represented. I don't think you need telling why. If addressing this issue(extremely badly in the example you provide), is an example of 'political correctness' and is to be done away with if UKIP have the power to do so, then this im[ortant issue will go unaddressed and our public service incuding he police will be the worse for it.

Tough.

 

White people are hugely under-represented in the race relations industry and yet nobody in that industry has come up with targets for their greater inclusion let alone used underhand methods to ensure it.

 

Can't imagine why.

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Yes, but what about Winterval eh? and all those councils that don't put up christmas decorations so as not to offend Moslems and that school where they made the kids wear full PPE to play conkers eh? 

 

The trouble with "Political Correctness" mythology is, in common with much EU mythology (banning bent bananas, rennaming Chocolate "Vegelate" and changing the name of Waterloo Station to "Europe Station") is that no matter how unutterably ludicrous and patently untrue the stories are there is still a small subset of the nation that will believe the stories and will perceive this to be a problem. Combine this with an existing xenophobia and the confusion of the EU with the ECHR and the distorted reporting of many human rights cases by lazy journalists with an agenda they wish to promote and suddenly it's a manifesto for a collection of small minded golf club bores.

The reverse problem is also true. Sometimes these stories are true or at least partly true but there are those who refuse to believe them because the Guardian didn't cover these incidents.

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Tough.

 

White people are hugely under-represented in the race relations industry and yet nobody in that industry has come up with targets for their greater inclusion let alone used underhand methods to ensure it.

 

Can't imagine why.

 

 

yes it is tough. It's a lot of other things as well: it's symptomatic of a historic culture within the police force and other public services tat needs changeing. It's counterpoductive  since it causes the police problems in the way it does its job, compounded by the gross racial inbalance  of those stopped ad searched by the police for example.

 

I don't know what the 'race relations industry' consists of, and also I don't know wha the racial mix of thoseoccupied by that industry is. I'd be interested to know how you what it is.

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The reverse problem is also true. Sometimes these stories are true or at least partly true but there are those who refuse to believe them because the Guardian didn't cover these incidents.

do you have any examples of them being true?

I'm sure they must exist: people being over zealous at a local level for instance

 

edit: I'mot sure of the relevance her. Are you saying that if some are true ten it validates the ones that aren't

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yes it is tough. It's a lot of other things as well: it's symptomatic of a historic culture within the police force and other public services tat needs changeing. It's counterpoductive  since it causes the police problems in the way it does its job, compounded by the gross racial inbalance  of those stopped ad searched by the police for example.

 

I don't know what the 'race relations industry' consists of, and also I don't know wha the racial mix of thoseoccupied by that industry is. I'd be interested to know how you what it is.

I know because the various race relation industry chiefs admit that this is the case. Only they don't seem to think it matters despite the historic culture within the race relations industry and the way that causes it them problems in doing their job.

 

It's odd that they don't care given that their job is basically to tell everybody else how racist they are, you would have thought that they would have put their own house in order first.

 

Only they openly do not think that the culture of quotas and targets should apply to them.

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do you have any examples of them being true?

I'm sure they must exist: people being over zealous at a local level for instance

Look at the way some folk on this forum behave. Produce a Daily Mail article and they openly refuse to believe that it is true just because "It's a Daily Mail article". Now I know that the Mail distort things but they don't make things up and in the vast majority of cases you can find the same story in a different source.

 

Only not usually the Guardian because they have an agenda. Now I know that the Mail has an agenda but many Guardianistas just don't see that their Grauniad isn't any less biased.

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I know because the various race relation industry chiefs admit that this is the case. Only they don't seem to think it matters despite the historic culture within the race relations industry and the way that causes it them problems in doing their job.

 

It's odd that they don't care given that their job is basically to tell everybody else how racist they are, you would have thought that they would have put their own house in order first.

 

Only they openly do not think that the culture of quotas and targets should apply to them.

intersting

 

who are tese people?

 

I never knew it was 'their' job(whoever they are) to tell 'everybody else' how racist they are:  in that I can't imagine such a job existing. I really need your help wit this one

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intersting

 

who are tese people?

 

I never knew it was 'their' job(whoever they are) to tell 'everybody else' how racist they are:  in that I can't imagine such a job existing. I really need your help wit this one

Heads of bodies such as Commission for Racial Equality.

 

It is unacceptable that they don't produce statistics on the breakdown of their employees.

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Look at the way some folk on this forum behave. Produce a Daily Mail article and they openly refuse to believe that it is true just because "It's a Daily Mail article". Now I know that the Mail distort things but they don't make things up and in the vast majority of cases you can find the same story in a different source.

 

Only not usually the Guardian because they have an agenda. Now I know that the Mail has an agenda but many Guardianistas just don't see that their Grauniad isn't any less biased.

I've seen Mail articles produced by people actually because they have been untrue, bigoted, or hypocritical. I've seen mail articles produced and taken as read, I've seen mail articles produced and the contents disagreed with or at least discussed.

 

People quote the Times, The Telegraph and the Independent organs of a right wing -liberal(with a small l ) spectrum these are usually taken as read or again at least discussed.

 

The issue regarding the Mail IMHO isn't its political stance-right wing same as the Telegraph and Times, but rather its hysterical, small minded, appealing to prejudice and hypocritical style. It's the paper itself that people find ridiculous and therefore mock it. I love reading the Mail, but then I'm a newspaper freak

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Heads of bodies such as Commission for Racial Equality.

 

It is unacceptable that they don't produce statistics on the breakdown of their employees.

right, that's one. Any more?

 

If they don't produce this breakdown, how do you know what the racial profile is?

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right, that's one. Any more?

 

If they don't produce this breakdown, how do you know what the racial profile is?

Because I've heard them admit it on the radio.

 

Also you can see their list of directors. It's nothing like the racial make-up of the UK.

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Heads of bodies such as Commission for Racial Equality.

 

It is unacceptable that they don't produce statistics on the breakdown of their employees.

http://alededwards.blogspot.co.uk/

 

this commissioner of CRE look white enough?

 

does the CRE exist ny more?

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