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London Broncos confirm date change for their 5th round (v Bradford) Challenge Cup tie

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London Broncos have confirmed that their 5th round Tetley’s Challenge Cup tie against Bradford Bulls will take place on Friday May 10th with an 8pm kick-off. 

 

The change results from a clash with the rugby union 7s, and the Met Police and Augmented Safety Advisory Group decision not to allow another event to take place on the Saturday or Sunday.

 

The only option therefore is to play the game on the Friday night.

 

All junior season ticket holders can gain free entry to the game;  ticket exchanges should be done on the day of the game with a valid junior season ticket.

 

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Another reason to get the hell away from Twickenham

Or any place that has a relatively large stadium. It seems Farnborough would be a wonderful idea after all.

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Or any place that has a relatively large stadium. It seems Farnborough would be a wonderful idea after all.

Or Flamborough.

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Perhaps moving to a stadium on the TUBE LINE would be an idea. Don't they know that's how most Londoners get around?

What about ground sharing with a lower-league football team like Leyton Orient or Dagenham and Redbridge?

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You mean 80 supporting the Bulls surely?

8 plus sponge fingers, surely!

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2000 crowd. 800 of them supporting the Bulls.

 

I'd be surprised if this game attracted more than a 1000 crowd. As for 800 Bulls fans going down there - only slightly more than that went to Rochdale last week so I wouldn't hold your breath.

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Perhaps moving to a stadium on the TUBE LINE would be an idea. Don't they know that's how most Londoners get around?

What about ground sharing with a lower-league football team like Leyton Orient or Dagenham and Redbridge?

You do realise that most Londoners(sic) do not use the tube on a regular basis (as in several times a week)? Has very little to do with being on a tube line more to do with not being able to attract people there. Getting to Twickenham from central is easy due to having excellent transport links.

 

Your suggestion for D&R is a strange one yes it has a tube station but the journey from central is long and problematic and Londoners using public transport would chose to take the over ground train service.

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I'd be surprised if this game attracted more than a 1000 crowd. As for 800 Bulls fans going down there - only slightly more than that went to Rochdale last week so I wouldn't hold your breath.

Getting to M62 grounds is problematical enough on Friday nights. For anyone holding down a job it's a non-starter for the vast majority, unless you can take a day off. I've already said on another thread that the same probably applies to many of the, on the edge of London, Bronco fans. No reflection on the club, it just can't be helped.

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I'd be surprised if this game attracted more than a 1000 crowd. As for 800 Bulls fans going down there - only slightly more than that went to Rochdale last week so I wouldn't hold your breath.

only problem with that being we took nealry a thousand across to rochdale last week. was announced as 977 in away stand and were a fair few bulls shirts in home stand opposite us too. only saw a handful of rochdale shirts all day.

 

That said can't see us taking more than 500 down to london, probably less.Poor kickoff time and only a few weeks after their late change of day and venue for the league game left a lot of bulls fans out of pocket.

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You do realise that most Londoners(sic) do not use the tube on a regular basis (as in several times a week)? Has very little to do with being on a tube line more to do with not being able to attract people there. Getting to Twickenham from central is easy due to having excellent transport links.

Your suggestion for D&R is a strange one yes it has a tube station but the journey from central is long and problematic and Londoners using public transport would chose to take the over ground train service.

Sorry but you are wrong on that one. Most Londoners do use the tube on a regular basis. Also I think being on a tube line DOES help attendance-wise. The Stoop is NOT easy to get to from central London and the train line often has problems at weekend. Its also a long walk from the station

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only problem with that being we took nealry a thousand across to rochdale last week. was announced as 977 in away stand and were a fair few bulls shirts in home stand opposite us too. only saw a handful of rochdale shirts all day.

 

It's semantics to be fair - I would (and did) class that as not much more than 800. It's nothing to brag about (nor anything to be ashamed of either I will be quick to point out).

 

My point though is if that's the kind of following the Bulls attract at 3pm Sunday less than an hour away from home, there is no way 85-90% of the Bulls fans who went to Rochdale would make - as you point out - a far worse kick off time and destination as well as the other problems you mention. 500 is also generous IMO. Will be pleasently surprised if it is, but London are stuck between a rock and hard place.(..to get to)

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It's semantics to be fair - I would (and did) class that as not much more than 800. It's nothing to brag about (nor anything to be ashamed of either I will be quick to point out).

point i was making was that you said if we took 800 down to london it wouldnt be much more than we took to rochdale when it would actually be close to 200 less. That aside I think we'll be doing well if we manage 500 at london given time and day. Quite a few people I know took a day off work for the league fixture and ended up wasting a days holiday due to the fixture change and wont do same again so soon.

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Sorry but you are wrong on that one. Most Londoners do use the tube on a regular basis. Also I think being on a tube line DOES help attendance-wise. The Stoop is NOT easy to get to from central London and the train line often has problems at weekend. Its also a long walk from the station

Spot on. I'm doing my bit to support the Broncos while I'm living here, and will be going again tomorrow. But it's hard to convince my other half to go regularly to the Stoop when it's a 90 minute journey from our place in Acton. If it were on the tube line it would take half that time- even if it were in East London

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The Broncos, The Skolars, the RFL. SLE, the grounds trust or whatever it is called and any Government Grants or European Grants that might be available should combine their resources and buy the 8 acre or whatever it is at New River and develop a decent stadium with training facilities available to the national teams both our's and visitors and develop revenue streams from the rest of the complex to help pay for it's upkeep.

 

For now, with the sort of attendances the Broncos get, the current New River only slightly updated, would be big enough for now.

 

I understand the local council want rid and the site is reserved for sporting ventures so the cost should be less than on a buildable area.

 

It's a massive opportunity for both clubs, but particulalry the Broncos, to put down some permanent roots, and for RL to have a stable base in the South.

 

If the RFL can buy the lease to Odsal and help out Keighley and Rochdale and the old Crusaders, then this is a better opportunity than all of those former instances of RFL involvement.

 

Maybe, if the WC makes a healthy profit, this can be divided between the junior game, the spread of the international game and facilities purchase and upgrade.

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it's a 90 minute journey from our place in Acton

Just to be clear, good god where are you going? It is only around 30 minutes from Acton Central to Twickenham with the change at Richmond, and there are four trains per hour even on Sundays and Friday evenings.

Some people also seem to forget that half of London is not on a tube line.

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point i was making was that you said if we took 800 down to london it wouldnt be much more than we took to rochdale when it would actually be close to 200 less. That aside I think we'll be doing well if we manage 500 at london given time and day. Quite a few people I know took a day off work for the league fixture and ended up wasting a days holiday due to the fixture change and wont do same again so soon.

Ah, read the original point out. Typo. What I meant was "only slightly more went to Rochdale last week" not "Slightly more than went to Rochdale last week". I was aware of the crowd as I was there!

My fault totally, take that into consideration, we are surely singing from the same hymn sheet.

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Just to be clear, good god where are you going? It is only around 30 minutes from Acton Central to Twickenham with the change at Richmond, and there are four trains per hour even on Sundays and Friday evenings.

Some people also seem to forget that half of London is not on a tube line.

I would say that most of London is near a tune line. Its just parts of South London that dont. Its no surprise that the places that are not have tube stationd nearby dont have top class football teams nearby

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I would say that most of London is near a tune line. Its just parts of South London that dont. Its no surprise that the places that are not have tube stationd nearby dont have top class football teams nearby

Just to be clear, even in North London areas alternate between on the tube or normal train lines, and there is a large tubeless area of West London between the Central Line and Piccadilly Line, and in East London either side of the Central Line. This is one of the reasons for Crossrail being built to take over the local services into Liverpool Street and Paddington to upgrade the capacity on those routes.

The Broncos have averaged over 5,000 in Super League at both the Valley and the Stoop, so it is a very poor excuse to use not being on the tube as a reason for their current sub 2,000 attendances. The union club also have no problems packing out the Stoop travelling by train.

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Just to be clear, good god where are you going? It is only around 30 minutes from Acton Central to Twickenham with the change at Richmond, and there are four trains per hour even on Sundays and Friday evenings.

Some people also seem to forget that half of London is not on a tube line.

How long does it take from North Acton?

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How long does it take from North Acton?

Around 45 minutes.

You can either use the tube to Richmond changing at Ealing Broadway and Turnham Green, or just walk or take a bus to Acton Central, all take around the same time.

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Just to be clear, even in North London areas alternate between on the tube or normal train lines, and there is a large tubeless area of West London between the Central Line and Piccadilly Line, and in East London either side of the Central Line. This is one of the reasons for Crossrail being built to take over the local services into Liverpool Street and Paddington to upgrade the capacity on those routes.

The Broncos have averaged over 5,000 in Super League at both the Valley and the Stoop, so it is a very poor excuse to use not being on the tube as a reason for their current sub 2,000 attendances. The union club also have no problems packing out the Stoop travelling by train.

In 1997 Quins RU were still in a transient phase between one man and a dog and good crowds. The stadium only had one stand I think too originally. London outrated them back then but were fleeced moneywise and that allowed Quins to become a big club. Someone at London Broncos back then seemed keen to pump cash into Quins coffers. Also the crowds were still poor given the league finishes:

The Broncos averaged just over 5k at the Stoop when they came second in 1997.

They averaged over 5600 when they came fourth at the Valley in 1996.

So the move to the Stoop was a shocker as crowds plummeted despite a higher finish

On a tube line these attendances would have been greater IMO. Also they will never be bettered at the Stoop as Quins RU have sewn up the area

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