Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

class of 63

Barrow game

83 posts in this topic

Heard on Radio Manchester that Briers and Morley are hopeful of being fit for Warringtons cup tie with Salford on May 11th.Wonder if they will get a run out with Swinton first?

Did they mention them playing for us?

Hold your horses and wait for the 'Kick Swinton at Every Opportunity Handicap Hurdle' start line at least!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Furryenzo, 'he's had his chance'? Come on mate you cant change a squads playing habits in a couple of days!

I too am very disappointed in yesterdays result. 1, beecause I couldn't go and 2, the result. I expected closer but it seems Barrow are building a respectable home record this season.

We are still only 3points off about 7th place and apart from the top 5 teams anyone can beat anyone else on the day this year.

GC has stated he wants to build a young squad which he is doing the it seems.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So does anyone think the poor performance was anything to do with the fact that Ian Watson was not playing - everyone has seen that Ian has slowed down and some would say (myself included) that it is time to inject more pace into the half backs - but without him is there anyone able to motivate and push the team ?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Going to the game feeling we can win,but at worst we need a bonus point

On the Barrow forums prediction thread all 16 posts are going for a Barrow win, can we match that???

Well my feelings were totally misplaced - they were based on playing a Barrow team who had been struggling and on getting to the game and looking at what seemed to be a strong line up and much bigger side, thenbeing in control for the first 15 to 20 minutes 6-0 in front, I still felt confident - what happens we fall apart, poor discipline, missed tackles and we get bossed about by a smaller set of forwards. Good win for Barrow,poor poor poor for us, not looking good.Hate to be negative about my team but need to be realistic.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

We are due a good win up there but we never really play well on that small pitch.

We won't have Danny Bridge & Glenn Riley as they are both in the Warrington Squad to play Bradford Bulls.

Whoever plays should be a tight game.

Small pitch ???????????  Are you serious ?????

It's one of the biggest (and flattest) pitches in rugby league !!!!!!!!!!!!

Wash your mouth out !!!!  :-)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Last season's match at Craven Park in the Northern Rail Cup had a very similar outcome (32-16 to Barrow) - so although this result seems to be viewed as a disappointing one by a lot of contributors, perhaps expectations were a bit unrealistic?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Think the Northern Rail game last season was on the back of us playing on the Thursday night at York!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Did they mention them playing for us?

Hold your horses and wait for the 'Kick Swinton at Every Opportunity Handicap Hurdle' start line at least!

. No there was no mention of them playing for us but as both have been out for a considerable time it's surely an option?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Furryenzo I agree with everything you have said, only reason why we beat Hunslet because they are worse than us and if that game carried on for 5 mins more we would have lost it.

 

Enough is enough now, this whole chambers shambles is a joke, we have gone backwards since Watto stood down.  I did not go yesterday but spoke to 2 of my mates who both told me "going forward we look clueless, defence was a joke and there was no organisation". 

 

For me Watto should have got that job, I know what people are saying about his coaching badges, so why did he come out in the advertiser and advise "he was prepared to hang up his boots and take the role on". 

 

So when Mr Kidd came out and said "he has recieved 11 apllications or whatever the amount was"that this guy is the best out of them, because if he is I would hate to see the rest of the calibre applying to manage our great club.

 

Our great club is in a very dark place at the moment and don't see how we are going to get out of it,  there is nothing positive coming out the club from Agecroft, there has not even been an update for months.  We have a chairman who thinks its ok to keep his fans in total darkness and not talk to us.  This somes up our club at the moment, them versus us.

 

We beat Hunslet then have 2 winable games against Barrow and Whitehaven on Thursday.  We should be bouncing about, energy levels massive with the thought of winning 3 games on the bounce.  What happens we got battered by barrow and also our confidence has took a hammering for Thursday, not good.

 

I also take on board about the team and not changing things overnight but after the amount of games he has had in charge, I can not think of any improvments to the team since he took over.  Every department in our game has gone down hill since he has come in.  Time for him to go now whilst we have time left in the season.  Give the job to Watto.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Think the Northern Rail game last season was on the back of us playing on the Thursday night at York!

That doesn't auger too well for this Thursday night then with two games in just over four days!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Furryenzo, 'he's had his chance'? Come on mate you cant change a squads playing habits in a couple of days!

I too am very disappointed in yesterdays result. 1, beecause I couldn't go and 2, the result. I expected closer but it seems Barrow are building a respectable home record this season.

We are still only 3points off about 7th place and apart from the top 5 teams anyone can beat anyone else on the day this year.

GC has stated he wants to build a young squad which he is doing the it seems.

 

 

Dont believe in fairytales because of whats said in the press. Need I remind you of the countless stories and interviews Paul Kidd had in the advertiser over the years about his views and opinions on the future of the team under his coaching?

 

I believe hes had his chance due to the fact that the team has worsened under him. If they had stayed at the same level, then at least you could say hes still got the respect of the players. This isnt the case and as iv previously mentioned.

 

  • No cohesion in the squad due to D/R
  • Clearly no ability/respect with regards to Chambers
  • Our championship side has slowly fell apart and not been replaced with any quality.

 

So to summarise we have no squad stability, a poor coach and below par players. Im not saying were going to get relegated, but id be surprised if we dont.

 

But regardless il be there on Thursday cheering on the Lions, living in hope they can prove me wrong!!!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Good weekend up in the Lakes spoiled by a very apathetic display on the pitch. It was that embarrassing that I felt I should give back the £15 entry fee to each of my three mates that I took along. Good job the real ales back in Ambleside were on top form to help us drown our sorrows!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I just love reading forums  - According to Barrow fans they were outstanding, according to Swinton fans we were "poor poor poor". Perhaps we just met them on the wrong day. :huh:

 

Having seen the video highlights, the defence looked shocking - large gaps and players getting run over out wide. Difficult to say from highlights but looks like we were dominated.

 

I must say I was concerned when we only had Mills as a recognised prop and the new lad Jack Cooper from the bench. Seems that the "tactic" of having two props on the pitch and two on the bench is no longer favoured and with it we are on the back foot against teams.

 

Hawkyard, McCarthy, Clarke, Sarsfield are all second row forwards I understand... and Mills is not going to do a full 80 mins.

 

Anyway - I did not go to Barrow so feel free to correct me

 

Onward and upwards - a win on Thursday will put us 7th and in a play off position by Thursday night :ph34r: ..... just need to win it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Some very weak defence shown in those highlights of the barrow game especially down the left where Kurt Haggerty seemed to walk through quite easily.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I just love reading forums  - According to Barrow fans they were outstanding, according to Swinton fans we were "poor poor poor". Perhaps we just met them on the wrong day. :huh:

 

Having seen the video highlights, the defence looked shocking - large gaps and players getting run over out wide. Difficult to say from highlights but looks like we were dominated.

 

I must say I was concerned when we only had Mills as a recognised prop and the new lad Jack Cooper from the bench. Seems that the "tactic" of having two props on the pitch and two on the bench is no longer favoured and with it we are on the back foot against teams.

 

Hawkyard, McCarthy, Clarke, Sarsfield are all second row forwards I understand... and Mills is not going to do a full 80 mins.

 

Anyway - I did not go to Barrow so feel free to correct me

 

Onward and upwards - a win on Thursday will put us 7th and in a play off position by Thursday night :ph34r: ..... just need to win it.

Don't wish to take anything away from what was a well deserved win for Barrow and if they assess their teams performance as outstanding, all credit to them for backing their side but I can say we were 'poor,poor,poor'.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Mark sorry for the digs last night ...never post pi**ed !

what I meant was in this current economic climate Agecroft may be too expensive....I hope im wrong for you guys but again its only an opinion (again put very badly last night!)

 

 

Agecroft is deffo a pipe dream on these accounts.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Last season's match at Craven Park in the Northern Rail Cup had a very similar outcome (32-16 to Barrow) - so although this result seems to be viewed as a disappointing one by a lot of contributors, perhaps expectations were a bit unrealistic?

 

 

Very good point Phill. Craven Park (Barrow) is always a tough place to go expecting to come away with something.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Just seen the match highlights - surely the team cannot be that bad again on Thursday evening...............oh well we will soon find out...............

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

That doesn't auger too well for this Thursday night then with two games in just over four days!

. At least it will be the same for Whitehaven as they had a game yesterday.Also travelling from Cumbria in the week isn't the best journey to have to make so that may give us an advantage.I rate this game as the most important game so far this season! I think if we lose we are in big trouble!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Phil H - spot on. After seeing Barrow run Leigh so close I was never confident of a win in Cumbria. A bonus would have been nice though!

I pretty much agree with Furryenzo. Maybe slightly too soon to say, but if we leave it too long then we'll be back in C1. Let's hope we're much happier on Thursday night!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Our great club is in a very dark place at the moment and don't see how we are going to get out of it, there is nothing positive coming out the club from Agecroft, there has not even been an update for months. We have a chairman who thinks its ok to keep his fans in total darkness and not talk to us.  This sums up our club at the moment, them versus us.

Yes, it's all gone mysteriously quiet on the Agecroft front and it doesn't help by being kept in the dark about it. The fans' patience on this, easily the biggest thing in the club's history since the loss of our sacred Station Road home in '92, is wearing very, very thin indeed - and - it's very worrying because we ALL want (and NEED) it to succeed.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Gary Chambers has given an honest reflection on yesterday's game on the Club site. 

 

The biggest disappointment for me was, as GC states, the lack of spirit shown by many of our players once we started to slip behind (the Hawkyards and a couple of others excepted).  We had looked the better team in the first 20 minutes but once Mossop came on and injected loads of pace, committment and skill at the play the ball Barrow grew in confidence their forwards made telling breaks with players in support and ripped us to shreds at times. Their lads were still making yards with 2 or 3 of ours trying to get them to ground. 

 

We were disorganised again with 3 new players in the team and perhaps missing Watson's influence on the pitch.  (Tyrone McCarthy is off to Cas on loan as well now not helping with any team selection consistency.)  But where is Gary Chambers when things are going wrong?  On maych day he is noticable by his abscence.  He may want to get a better overview of the game from somewhere in the stands and communicate with Marlon Billy by electronic means but I'd like to see him on the touch line sometimes especially when things are not going well.  I'd like to see him with the players at the start and end of the match too. 

 

I think it's too soon to be calling for his head and I don't think even more disruption will do us any good but the coach has got to get a settled team playing with commitment and spirit at the very least or we will be in the mire.  At the moment it's all still very close at the bottom of the table but we need to showing considerable improvement quickly.

 

There is another meeting this Friday I believe between the Kidds and the Council regarding Agecroft.  Why the Club fail to tell the supporters about these ongoing efforts to bring the new ground to fruition is a mystery to me.  Perhaps there are discussions that cannot be detailed to one and all but not to let us know that meetings are taking place is daft and just provides ammo for the doom mongers to say that nothing is happening when efforts are still ongoing.

 

Here's hoping for a win and a much improved performance on Thursday.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

  Why the Club fail to tell the supporters about these ongoing efforts to bring the new ground to fruition is a mystery to me.  Perhaps there are discussions that cannot be detailed to one and all but not to let us know that meetings are taking place is daft and just ammo for the doom mongers.

I think we have to understand that nothing will satisfy a Doom monger on here. They have their belief and they stick to it and no amount of words will ever change that. If I was the Kidds I would probably not say anything to avoid it being thrown back in my face and twisted against me.

Actions speak louder than words but sensible words need to come before actions.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

He may want to get a better overview of the game from somewhere in the stands and communicate with Marlon Billy by electronic means but I'd like to see him on the touch line sometimes especially when things are not going well.  I'd like to see him with the players at the start and end of the match too. 

 

Very good point here. Totally agree.

 

However.

 

You do get a much better view of the match from a point of some elevation (as in the stands). I have never watched a game from ground level for this reason. Going back to days when Station Road used to host Test matches etc, they had wooden forms along the cinder path against the wall and close to the touchline advertised as "Ringside seats" which cost more than standing on the terraces. Dreadful place to see any action and paying extra too.

 

But, GC is the coach, not one of the fans and should always be ON-THE-BENCH with his players and staff, not communicatiing via walkie-talkie with his 2nd in command Marlon Billy. He should quickly realise that the need for good coach-player communication is vital during the hurly-burly of a match and the BEST way to do this is FACE-TO-FACE.

 

Are you reading this, Gary?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.



Rugby League World - April 2017

League Express - Mon 10th April 2017