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There is another meeting this Friday I believe between the Kidds and the Council regarding Agecroft.  Why the Club fail to tell the supporters about these ongoing efforts to bring the new ground to fruition is a mystery to me.  Perhaps there are discussions that cannot be detailed to one and all but not to let us know that meetings are taking place is daft and just provides ammo for the doom mongers to say that nothing is happening when efforts are still ongoing.

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It sounds a bit like the old joke of "more 'meetings' than Haydock Park".

 

Also, can someone please explain why when reading about these club-council "meetings" the only scenario that enters my head is, is the meeting only really about whose turn it is to buy the biscuits to go with the tea/coffee and whether or not they should be custard creams or chocolate digestives?

 

Still, I suppose we'll just have live in hope.

 

:rolleyes:

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It sounds a bit like the old joke of "more 'meetings' than Haydock Park".

 

Also, can someone please explain why when reading about these club-council "meetings" the only scenario that enters my head is, is the meeting only really about whose turn it is to buy the biscuits to go with the tea/coffee and whether or not they should be custard creams or chocolate digestives?

 

Still, I suppose we'll just have live in hope.

Or even the garibaldi biscuits!

 

:rolleyes:

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I've just read in today's League Weekly that Ian Watson is out for 5 weeks after knee surgery on Thursday.  Not great news if accurate,

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It is accurate Ian needed to have the operation due to ligament damage.

I've just read in today's League Weekly that Ian Watson is out for 5 weeks after knee surgery on Thursday.  Not great news if accurate,

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I didnt go on Sunday because I was at work.

I cant comment on the performance. I have to say its a long time since we played well,either under Ste Mc,Watto or Gary Chambers. Yes there have been gutsy ground out victories and some brave defeats but we are going back to Featherstone and Halifax at home last year when we were robbed/unlucky to lose both games to remember any real committed quality rugby being played. 

And yes Ive enjoyed many matches too and praised many performances before someone tracks back through all my posts and tries to make me look stupid.

 

Having said all that I do NOT think Mr Chambers has had his chance. Hes not been in charge five minutes and it takes time to get a team playing your way. I do not think Warrington would have employed him either if he wasnt any good.

 

So I am prepared to give it a little longer. Let Harvey get fit. Stop putting Ainscough on the bench and see what happens.

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Agreed Mark.

We have two good young half backs with Gareth and Craig but hey will need time together and a dominant pack to play behind. The availability of only 2 props will not help!

And it doesnt matter where the coach sits as long as he gets the massage across!

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Bloody hell coach and masseur he's got his work cut out.:-P

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Hi guys, just thought id interject into this topic. Having worked with Gary Chambers, both as a player, and later as his assistant coach whilst at Warrington Wolves U21's, I can firmly state how good a coach this guy is, his man management is second to non, and whilst things may not be going to plan on the field for you guys at the moment, stick with Cham, he is the guy to get you out of this hole and back on track. Several years ago, Chambo was offered the chance to go to Saints as assistant coach to Daniel Anderson which he rejected to stay with his role at Warrington Wolves, cause he believed in the ethos of the team, an ethos that he is now bringing to the Lions I have no doubt. He is surrounding himself with young lads whom he has either coached in the past, or close friends have coached and recommend highly. As a Barrow fan myself, I would love to see him at the helm of my club, but being a Haven lad, and proud of it he wont.

When I worked alongside Chambo as his assistant, he viewed the game from the stands and passed messages down to myself via radio for me to communicate. This vantage point allows him better scope and perspective over the field, which the players, if not the fans understand. I can assure you, the players will have felt the wrath of Cham, both after the game, in the video review and in this weeks training sessions. In Chambo we trust

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Ok I agree with the above post some very valid points made lets see if he can get us out of the hole were in. Fingers crossed.

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In addition to the fact Gary Chambers has not been in post very long, there is a bigger issue - beyond the question of whether the players have respect for the coach is the question of whether the players have respect for the club.

 

Its next to impossible for any coach to develop a successful team, if the circumstances are a significant number of players coming and going every few weeks, with no certainty as to how long any of them will be available to the Lions.  That's on top of an apparent obligation to give clippits of game time to Warrington Wolves established first team players that are either on the fringes of Tony Smith's selection policy or returning from injury; not done on the basis of what is good for Swinton, but on the basis of what suits Warrington.

 

Getting fleeting access to some ambitious young players that are training full time and have sufficient natural ability to aim for a career in Super League is one thing; knitting them into an effective team for the purposes of taking Swinton Lions forwards is an entirely different thing.

 

Its clear Gary Chambers isn't the one taking the key decisions on these club policies.  The very fact he was given the job of coach coming from the background he did is arguably just one more part of the overall, badly flawed, "master plan".

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In addition to the fact Gary Chambers has not been in post very long, there is a bigger issue - beyond the question of whether the players have respect for the coach is the question of whether the players have respect for the club.

 

Its next to impossible for any coach to develop a successful team, if the circumstances are a significant number of players coming and going every few weeks, with no certainty as to how long any of them will be available to the Lions.  That's on top of an apparent obligation to give clippits of game time to Warrington Wolves established first team players that are either on the fringes of Tony Smith's selection policy or returning from injury; not done on the basis of what is good for Swinton, but on the basis of what suits Warrington.

 

Getting fleeting access to some ambitious young players that are training full time and have sufficient natural ability to aim for a career in Super League is one thing; knitting them into an effective team for the purposes of taking Swinton Lions forwards is an entirely different thing.

 

Its clear Gary Chambers isn't the one taking the key decisions on these club policies.  The very fact he was given the job of coach coming from the background he did is arguably just one more part of the overall, badly flawed, "master plan".

You need to concentrate your efforts on the problems Leigh are facing instead of harping on about the problems "we" and I use that term, as I along with others on here support our club.

Not constantly look to use team problems as an excuse to attack the ownership.

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In addition to the fact Gary Chambers has not been in post very long, there is a bigger issue - beyond the question of whether the players have respect for the coach is the question of whether the players have respect for the club.

 

Its next to impossible for any coach to develop a successful team, if the circumstances are a significant number of players coming and going every few weeks, with no certainty as to how long any of them will be available to the Lions.  That's on top of an apparent obligation to give clippits of game time to Warrington Wolves established first team players that are either on the fringes of Tony Smith's selection policy or returning from injury; not done on the basis of what is good for Swinton, but on the basis of what suits Warrington.

 

Getting fleeting access to some ambitious young players that are training full time and have sufficient natural ability to aim for a career in Super League is one thing; knitting them into an effective team for the purposes of taking Swinton Lions forwards is an entirely different thing.

 

Its clear Gary Chambers isn't the one taking the key decisions on these club policies.  The very fact he was given the job of coach coming from the background he did is arguably just one more part of the overall, badly flawed, "master plan".

Blimey Phillh, it's taken you 3hrs 40min to turn this into a negative post, you are slowing!

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Are you going on Thursday phil h.

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Are you going on Thursday phil h.

I shall not be going, as I don't wish to give Paul Kidd a helping hand in his quest to rape Swinton Lions of its identity and undermine the integrity of the Championship.

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Misuse of that word you clown. Get it removed

Not a misuse at all - entirely consistent with the literal definition which beyond the context used in criminal law includes wanton destruction / to take or spoil by force.

You ought to read a bit more.

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You are a disgrace

By the way is that reading "par ce" ha ha?

You psuedo intellectual

The literal definition really isn't the point though. Possibly your lowest point yet

But of course you are entitled to your opinion.

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Glad your not going Phil, I like to see true spectators there not fair weather ones.

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Will all those so called fans who keep coming on here spouting about us needing to sign our own players please explain to us where we are going to get these players from. Surely it is obvious that there is a dearth of players of the required standard knocking around thats why teams like Castleford and London are taking loan players from other super league teams. In an ideal world it would be wonderful to go and pick up a host of players off the street but it isn't an ideal world and the players just arn't  available. We therefore have to use other methods within the rules of  the rugby league to maintain a competive team. If the likes of Julian Caine know where these players are maybe they would like to share the secret with Gary Chambers I am sure he would like to know. As for you Philh you are a disgrace . come on here every day spouting your retoric and then have the nerve to say your not going becauseyou don.t want to put money in Swintons coffers.If every Swinton fan chose to go down the same route we most certainly would'nt have a team to support. To you Duffymoon the prat that you seem to idolise is as much a Swinton fan as I am a Salford fan Please Philh do all true Swinton fans a favour  and disappear up your own #### in a puff of blue smoke.

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I think the decision not to assemble a squad of players and rely heavily on the DR system was a policy decision taken by the club - trying to assemble / augment a squad mid season in certainly difficult - three players have left the club, two others have not featured in any matches apart from early on in the season - so yes it is difficult.

 

I also think it is really difficult to coach a team successfully when a significant number of players come and go every few weeks...........that to me is the most difficult task facing Mr Chambers at the coaching team. 

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I do think on this one phil h that using the word rape, although it may be correct in its usage in your posting is a very emotive word especially those people whom have been victims of horrendous rape crimes etc, I think in some respects you could do with editing that post as in a lot of peoples eyes including mine using that word is way over the top even for this forum, i'm sure you didn't mean to cause offence but this occasion i'm afraid you have to a lot of people.  Please edit the post as for once I agree whole heartedly with mark richardsons posting on this forum at 9.23pm

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