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I'd love to have Kyle Eastmond back playing Rugby League

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Wigan will be able to pay him the "big money not included on the salary cap special dispensation sky sports guest presenter fee" that Tomkins gets.

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how is he actualy doing in ru ? is he thriving or flopping or just an ordinary team member, do we know?

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Wigan will be able to pay him the "big money not included on the salary cap special dispensation sky sports guest presenter fee" that Tomkins gets.

 

 

can you be more specific?

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I'd have him back in the game in a heartbeat.

 Absolutely. Especially given some Andy Gregory one-to-one scrum half coaching.

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The first time I saw him play v Wigan at Saints in the 2009 play-off I was very impressed.  He partnered Tomkins at Elland Road in 2009 v Oz and had a good game too. I'd like to see him back in RL. Perhaps if Saints re-sign him for next season he could come on loan to Fev to re-acclimatise himself! ;)

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how is he actualy doing in ru ? is he thriving or flopping or just an ordinary team member, do we know?

I'd love to see him back in RL because it would weaken Barf. Wasn't that impressed with Eastmond when I first saw him but he has progressed into a very fine centre. He has a similar effect that Jason Robinson had, when he gets his hands on the ball there is a sense of anticipation of what he's going to do. If I was Lancaster I'd have him on the plane to Argentina this summer.

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get him back to greater Manchester DR Koukash, salford is calling!!! be great for rl. 

 

Dr koukash said he wants to spend the salary cap, this will be one player to put towards that.

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So people aren't allowed to make career decisions? He hardly told RL to f*ck off or left in disgrace, did he?

Archaic, unproductive attitude there.

He did finish up leaving under a bit of a cloud, his attitude didn't seem to good when it was announced he was going.

 

Maybe if he had focused on the job he was currently employed to do and set his heart on going out with a bang people may feel differently. 

 

I would never deny him the choice to play whatever code he wished, but I would be wary of his commitment.

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There could be more to this story if you look at goings on at Bath.

 

Eastmond has been playing in the centres (mainly at inside centre so more of a second stand off), occasionally on the wing and the club had said they wanted to get him working more closely in the breakdown area (i.e. ruck area).By all accounts he has formed a good centre combination with the former England second rower/ turned centre Banahan.

 

However, Bath's recruitment for next season is interesting. Mike Ford's son, George is moving to the club from Leicester and plays stand off. I know he is replacing the outgoing All Black Donald but still, George Ford is rated very highly in RU and he will be moving to get game time (something he hasn't got at Leicester). Bath are also interested in taking on Gavin Henson and see him as inside centre playing the second stand off role. They already have a healthy stock of wingers and I can't see Kyle being happy to play second fiddle to someone like Henson who is a player that needs to start (if only to justify his no doubt massive salary).

 

His contract runs out in June next year and it will be interesting to see what moves Bath make in the next few months to tie him down to a longer deal. If that doesn't happen then maybe we will see him back up North. After all he wouldn't be the first RL player to have gone to Bath and then come back up the M5/ M6 fairly soon after.

 

As I have previously said, I just can't see him back at Saints. Salford or Wigan, both clubs who have publicly said they are looking to recruit from RU would seem the most likely destinations.

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Eastmond wont come back to SL, surely no club would be willing to match what he earns in union, particularly on someone who has been out of the game for a few years, didn't exactly leave on a high, is seriously injury prone and never really fulfilled the potential he showed as a teenager. 

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Eastmond wont come back to SL, surely no club would be willing to match what he earns in union, particularly on someone who has been out of the game for a few years, didn't exactly leave on a high, is seriously injury prone and never really fulfilled the potential he showed as a teenager. 

100% correct.

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I thought his contract at Bath wasn't that large and that Saints had offered him roughly the same to stay. I might have remembered that wrong or maybe he signed a new contract.

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I thought his contract at Bath wasn't that large and that Saints had offered him roughly the same to stay. I might have remembered that wrong or maybe he signed a new contract.

According to the Saints board both offers were about the same.

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I would be happy enough to see him in our game again. Looking how Thornley is going, he has come back a decent player. I understand SBW has slotted back into the NRL ok, so maybe they're generally fitter than they used to be (though how fit you have to be to watch goal kicking?). Pretty much any club would sign him. Given that Bath is a more expensive part of the world, I would have thought a number of clubs could offer him something that would be at least as good - surely a top of the market SL player gets a comparable amount to a squad unionista? Their SC may be higher, but they need to pay far more of them.

Assuming Powell gets Hock's money, then without Richards, Mossop, Gelling and rumour has it, Lauaki, Wigan should have some cash to spend, even with (rightly) upgrading Faz, Burke etc's contracts.

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he burned all his bridges with saints so he would never be welcomed back there......

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Eastmond would be a fantastic signing for Saints NOW, got to be better than Wilkin and Wello at half back. Could be best scrum half option for England alongside Widdop at stand off. Brough is a Scotland player and Sinfield is no answer. Might even go Lomax at full back and tomkins at half back.

ever heard of richie myler and stefan ratchford?

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I thought his contract at Bath wasn't that large and that Saints had offered him roughly the same to stay. I might have remembered that wrong or maybe he signed a new contract.

 That's how I remembered it also

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According to the Saints board both offers were about the same.

 

Indeed his move did seem more about having a crack at playing RU than earning buckets more cash at club level. Obviously the money would really start rolling in were he to make the England RU squad and although he has featured for the Saxons (so England Knights level), he would still be some way off the top squad. Will be interesting to see whether he is chosen for the tour to Argentina this summer, if he isn't then he could be on his way back North.

 

So to summarise, he isn't earning significantly more than he was offered at Saints which was a good deal less than Tomkins is currently on at Wigan who I think will snap him up next year and pay him what they are currently giving Sam once he goes South. And Lenegan will then move Eastmond onto the NRL a couple of years later bagging a decent transfer fee for the club!

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ever heard of richie myler and stefan ratchford?

Yes, inconsistent in comparison to Eastmond when he played at his peak

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Eastmond wont come back to SL, surely no club would be willing to match what he earns in union, particularly on someone who has been out of the game for a few years, didn't exactly leave on a high, is seriously injury prone and never really fulfilled the potential he showed as a teenager. 

Agree completely.  I don't have any hard feelings towards him over the manner in which he left, but my main memories of him are ones of frustration because he never developed into the player that we hoped he'd be.  I guess time is still on his side though.

 

I'd be surprised to see him return to League, and if he did then unless he's been ripping it up in Union (wouldn't know because I don't follow it) then I can't see his signing striking fear into other teams across the league.  He'd be a big gamble given the money he'd want.

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I was disappointed when Eastmond went to union, not just because I had found him to be a really exciting player, somebody who you would actually pay to see but because also of the way he rather limped out of the game once his decision had been made.  I fancied that in years to come he had the potential to be talked about in the same way we talk about Andy Gregory, Sean Edwards,  Ellery Hanley etc.

 

I'd love to see him back, training hard and working on his game.  It's always a shame when a player has their head turned by money to go and play what is to me an inferior sport.  Even if he never hit the heights that he may have done, he's still a young man and could turn out to be a very decent player indeed.

 

There's no guarantee he would have gone on to greatness, but I thought he was a tremendous prospect who had yet to mature fully physically and settle down to his best position (s).  I'd love to have him back in the game, but if he only wants to come back for the money, then he'd be better off staying put in union.

 

There was at one time talk of him coming on loan to Wakefield from Saints for the remainder of his contract once he'd announce he was leaving, and I think that would have put a thousand on the gate.  Those that seek to deride the lad should consider whether they think regular internationals of recent years like Ablett, Sinfileld, and Shenton would have got people as excited.  I don't think anyone could argue that he was the finished article, but boy was he exciting.

 

It's a buyer beware market though, not many have made the return from union and had instant success.  They're usually slower, heavier (and not in a good way), and need to learn their craft again.  Lee Smith at Wakefield for instance still has that knack of scoring tries but he's not a patch on the lad that seemed to have it all that night at Old Trafford not so long ago. 

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