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I think people forget that things weren't so rosy when P&R was in place. Clubs used to complain they didn't get enough time to pull a decent team together when they were promoted, and usually had woeful squads. Those that did survive did so by loading their team with sometimes up to 13-14 second rate imports at a time.

Remember Leigh's debacle of a season in SL? They were regularly hammered by more than 50 each game and barely won a game. Cas had several times where they did the same. Hull KR only survived because of bending every rule possible to fit as many imports as they could in their team. They are paying for it now though as they have no youth system.

P&R was ######. It was then, and it would be ###### in future if it were reintroduced. There is no way SL would be strengthened by having a newly promoted team each year (getting whipped), and the Championship would not be strengthened by having clubs make themselves broke trying to chase one year in SL.

The RFL did a great thing bringing in the licensing system, and it makes a better comp today, with more English youngsters given a chance. The game is suffering a the moment due to a lack of money. Bringing back P&R won't fix that. Your barking up the wrong tree with that one.

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Featherstone add nothing to the commercial profile of the sport, putting them in ahead of Toulouse would be a big step backwards.

The licensing system picks the best clubs able to handle Superleague.

It hasn't yet declared there's one place up for grabs 2015.

It hasn't said the race for that one place is between Featherstone and Toulouse.

We had this several years ago when the accusations were Crusaders had pinched Widnes' rightful place.

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Wigan 62 Leigh 6

Saints 60 Leigh 16

Leigh 4 Saints 78

Fartown 68 Leigh 16

Leigh 0 Leeds 74

London 70 Leigh 16

Leigh 4 Leeds 60

Your right. Leigh only shipped 50 odd once.......

So what -not much different to other SL clubs. There were 28 games that season I think, not 7.

We also kept all those teams bar Leeds within 10pts in the return game.

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So what -not much different to other SL clubs.

So that's my point clubs shouldn't be in SL if they get hammered regularly and that includes Leigh, Halifax, Salford, London Cas, HKR Fev whoever.

Your excuse about how leigh did Ok in other matches is irrelevant. The whole season was one of losses and defeats and a turning off of the fans many who stopped even though they had season tickets You want to go back to that fine, I don't care but don't make out it's good for the game.

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The licensing system picks the best clubs able to handle Superleague.

It hasn't yet declared there's one place up for grabs 2015.

It hasn't said the race for that one place is between Featherstone and Toulouse.

We had this several years ago when the accusations were Crusaders had pinched Widnes' rightful place.

crusaders didn't pinch widnes place in super league, the rfl acted with indecent hast to promote crusaders before they were ready just because they wanted a welsh club in the top flight. that is why they should tread very carefully when handing out the new licenses, after all toulouse were hardly a success in the championships were they!!!!

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This.

Featherstone add nothing to the commercial profile of the sport, putting them in ahead of Toulouse would be a big step backwards.

Yes I can see why their introduction into SL is supported by some people within the game but it's all propped up by one man.Should he decided to pull out then how would the business be financially sustainable?

Toulouse are supported by a mixture of local funding and a vast commercial sponsorship portfolio as well as FFR XIII and the existing shareholders there is a greater balance there and not dependant on the good will of a single individual.

The health of the game is in its pyramid system. Fev may not add much to the commercial value but their promotion will keep other CC / CC1 clubs believing that their club could also do it. Otherwise there will be a huge fall in attendances at non-SL clubs.

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Fev has a big catchment area and has Pontefract as part of its area.

People talk about Pontefract as though it's a huge metropolis. About 29000 people live there.

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Fans at least had something to dream of ...........

That's the problem. Too many dreamers in the game.

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People talk about Pontefract as though it's a huge metropolis. About 29000 people live there.

It's also not Fev's alone. My bother-in-law is from Ponte and he supports Cas.

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It's also not Fev's alone. My bother-in-law is from Ponte and he supports Cas.

Bother-in-law ? Freudian slip ?

I live in Ponte Carlo and I support Sheffield. I wouldn't suggest that Ponte Carlo is part of Sheffield's catchment area.

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like i have said featherstone are the best team outside of super league in either england or france and should be considered for a license before any other non super league team, if as seems possible to replace castleford.

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Bother-in-law ? Freudian slip ?

Ooops.

 

Far from it.

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"like i have said featherstone are the best team outside of super league in either england or france and should be considered for a license before any other non super league team, if as seems possible to replace castleford. "

To be fair, the current champions are Sheffield Eagles, so by rights until someone wins the grand final this year, Sheffield should be the number 1 contender for a shot at Super Duper League, not Featherstone.

Id say as its a city and has massive potential, coupled with the above fact makes them a more appealing proposition that Featherstone.

In an ideal world the best side outside SL playing wise should be the next ones in.

Unfortunately this isnt an ideal world, and the RFL are in charge of it!

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To be fair, the current champions are Sheffield Eagles, so by rights until someone wins the grand final this year, Sheffield should be the number 1 contender for a shot at Super Duper League, not Featherstone.

Id say as its a city and has massive potential ........

Yet it has no track record of anything but modest attendances.

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People keep going on about fev being too small not big enough catchment area yet they are pulling in bigger crowds than London and Salford

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apart from the super league clubs featherstone are the only genuine contenders for a license.

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People keep going on about fev being too small not big enough catchment area yet they are pulling in bigger crowds than London and Salford

It's a hell of a lot easier to pull in crowds when you are winning 80% of your matches.

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like i have said featherstone are the best team outside of super league in either england or france and should be considered for a license before any other non super league team, if as seems possible to replace castleford.

So replace Castlefords big team with a smaller club from the same town? That would be like replacing Newcastle Knights with the Cessnock Goannas.

Just face it, Fev has no place in SL. Period.

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people think fev have just become a small town in the wmdc yes maybe we are small but we used to live with the big boys in sl post sl we have competed with the likes of wigan leeds and been to wembly 5 times in our history !!! so less of the small town please ok

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So replace Castlefords big team with a smaller club from the same town? That would be like replacing Newcastle Knights with the Cessnock Goannas.

Just face it, Fev has no place in SL. Period.

Quite the obnoxious p1llock aren't we Goldcoaster, thanks for your input

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So replace Castlefords big team with a smaller club from the same town? That would be like replacing Newcastle Knights with the Cessnock Goannas.

Just face it, Fev has no place in SL. Period.

You're a dreamer mate.......This is England, not Australia. Soccer is the major sport over here, so much so that Manchester is a Rugby League wasteland.

When people say that Rugby league is the greatest game, some idiots think they also mean the greatest sport! There is a big difference in the definitions of those two words. When Super league was formed it was meant to raise the profile of the sport in this country, but if anything it has gone backwards since Union went professional. I believe that Rugby League is the greatest game, but as a sport it is a complete joke, especially in London and Wales. If you want to bring Toulouse in, do it by accepting that the game will never succeed in London and drop the Broncos instead, and concentrate a bit more on giving the Championship clubs something to play for. Otherwise ask yourself where the next Iestyn Harris and Kevin Sinfield are going to come from, because if the current lunacy goes on it won't be from places like Oldham!

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So replace Castlefords big team with a smaller club from the same town? That would be like replacing Newcastle Knights with the Cessnock Goannas.

Just face it, Fev has no place in SL. Period.

What an idiot you really are!!! Fev is not on its knees financially like c@s is. Fevs ground will soon be better than their skip. What right have you to say Fev has no place in SL? Fev as never had the chance of top flight rugby and IMO if given the chance would take it with both hands and make a better fist of it than some of the SL clubs in their have.

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So replace Castlefords big team with a smaller club from the same town? That would be like replacing Newcastle Knights with the Cessnock Goannas.

Just face it, Fev has no place in SL. Period.

That Toulouse side people are talking about would be better in S/L than Fev because they couldn't compete in the championship so should do well in the big league and every away match they would bring 1000 fans over and fill the coffers of other S/L clubs NOT

Do what's right and give the right teams the chance that are working hard to achieve that

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Fev should only be in SL only if they replace Cas. Adding another team from around that area is just pointless. Featherstone are attracting 3k + fans in the Championship which is great, they need to find 5k more to sustain in SL.

If Fev get into SL they'll be lucky to win 25% of their games, which makes it harder to attract fans. Theyre getting 3k fans on winning most their games. When a club appears to be on the up and winning games it's easy to get fans through the turnstyles.Barrow have done it, Fax have done it now Fev are doing it. The hard part is keeping the fans when the club are facing hard times which they will in SL.

Now the point about Toulouse, yes they did poorly in CC but it's not all about their performances. Having Toulouse in SL is a huge step forward commercially. Any sponsor looking at potentially sponsoring the competition will see the name Toulouse and recognise them instantly and make the comp more attractive. In a sponsors head they'll have a vision of having advertisements getting seen by the people of Toulouse which is a huge name, they won't get this with Featherstone.

Nothing wrong with having Fev in SL they deserve it, but it wont be a step forward.

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