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Attendances at professional sports events in the UK

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In sports where you can have more than one fixture a week, you are maximising the number of attendees per club (as well as coverage in the media). Football completely blankets the papers as it's on nearly every day and they play twice a week most weeks.

 

Which is interesting, as an independant indicator of how much less physically demanding a sport soccer is than rugby.

 

I think it most unlikely that players of either rugby code, at any level, could reasonably be expected to play two full, competitive games a week on a regular basis, right through the season, year on year.

 

Not unless every club could afford to maintain a regular `fluid 34'  (i.e. 2 interchangeable sides) squad (plus a spare 13 or so in case of injuries), and effectively manipulating the side each week so that no player played two full games in a week more than once say every month?

 

Not being any kind of expert in these matters I don't know if even that would be feasible, but watching the (very) occasional game of American football, I get the impression they may be working with a much larger squad than than they have men on the field at any one time.

 

I'd be interested to know what more knowlegeable forum members think.

 

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Not bein any kind of expert in these matters I don't know if even that would be feasible, but watching the (very) occasiona game of American football I get the impression they may work with a much larger squad than than they have men on the field at any one time.

American Football teams have offensive and defensive specialists. The long waits between plays allows interchanges and positional/tactical setups for the next stage of the game. A quick Google seems to indicate that a professional team has a squad of about 50 players.

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Gambling is the pull there, just like horse racing.  Take the gambling out of both and my guess would be that the figures for both would drop through the floor.

 

 

That should explain why cricket gets such a high attendance then.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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American Football teams have offensive and defensive specialists. The long waits between plays allows interchanges and positional/tactical setups for the next stage of the game. A quick Google seems to indicate that a professional team has a squad of about 50 players.

 

 

 

...and the offensive players have an average professional career span of less than 4 years I believe.

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...and the offensive players have an average professional career span of less than 4 years I believe.

Probably just as well as you can (apparently) make something of a link between games played and life expectancy.

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...and the offensive players have an average professional career span of less than 4 years I believe.

 

I would suspect that that is pretty similar to rugby league as well.  Plenty sign professional terms but most never make it.

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Which is interesting, as an independant indicator of how much less physically demanding a sport soccer is than rugby.

I think it most unlikely that players of either rugby code, at any level, could reasonably be expected to play two full, competitive games a week on a regular basis, right through the season, year on year.

Not unless every club could afford to maintain a regular `fluid 34' (i.e. 2 interchangeable sides) squad (plus a spare 13 or so in case of injuries), and effectively manipulating the side each week so that no player played two full games in a week more than once say every month?

Football clubs tend to have huge squads, so they regularly rotate a lot of their players. Not sure how many players will go through a full season in the team these days, if any.

I've said this in the past about maybe going the two games a week + bigger squads option. More games makes more income from gates, sponsors and TV as well as more full time players and more exposure in the media. Squad rotation would always be an issue though. You can get away with playing a few games on the bounce in football, but not in rugby.

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Cricket attendances are improved markedly by the internationals. This summer England have 7 test matches and 12 one dayers, not including the ICC Champions Trophy which is being held here.

 

Back of a fag packet sums.

Lords - 28,000 x 2 tests / The Oval - 23,000 / Old Trafford - 22,000 / Trent Bridge - 17,000 / Headingley - 20,000  / Durham - 19,000.

That gives 785,000 people at test matches (assuming they last 5 days).

 

Lords / Hampshire x 3 / Trent Bridge / Oval x 2 / Durham / Old Trafford / Headingley / Cardiff / Edgbaston.

245,000 people at one day fixtures.

 

Around a million of the 2.3million for cricket will be there for international fixtures.

18 counties, each playing 102 days of competitive cricket, 1,836 days in total. Approximately 708 spectators per day.

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Interestingly, while County Cricket gets underwhelming attendances, this year the BBC are streaming commentary on all games and the number of hits has been very high.

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Interestingly, while County Cricket gets underwhelming attendances, this year the BBC are streaming commentary on all games and the number of hits has been very high.

 

Cricket is an odd game. Unlike any other I can think of, you can easily follow the action without pictures (ie. radio commentary) and I believe a lot of people regularly tuned in to Test Match Special on the radio while at work. Perhaps these people have just shifted to the net from the radio?

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Anyone noticed how few people watch the golf and tennis tournaments,outside of the Majors.For many European golf tournaments,there seem to be only 2 men and a dog,whilst the stands at the various 'ordinary' tennis tournaments are often empty.

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Crowds outside SL are not higher but they would be with automatic P&R especially if there were 2spots up for grabs to SL. I actually think SL crowds would go up too

But you and all the other P & R brigade do not support automatic P & R. It's always P & R with standards and no championship club is up to standard.

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Anyone noticed how few people watch the golf and tennis tournaments,outside of the Majors.For many European golf tournaments,there seem to be only 2 men and a dog,whilst the stands at the various 'ordinary' tennis tournaments are often empty.

 

Frankly, I can't understand why the dog puts up with it. I can just about understand the pleasure of playing golf (not for me, though!), but WATCHING it! Dear Lord! Why on Earth would anybody go to watch golf?  :wacko:

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How many events?

Domestic only or including internationals

Too much detail missing to get a proper idea of what's happening

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How many events?

Domestic only or including internationals

Too much detail missing to get a proper idea of what's happening

I think it is cumulative attendance figures at the actual events.

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I think it is cumulative attendance figures at the actual events.

But that's a completely skewed data set!

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But that's a completely skewed data set!

yup. none of this is comparing like for like.

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