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Salford field 14 men v Cas (merged threads)

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Cheating bast......s ;) they'll get a fine imo which the cash Dr will pay from petty cash(who said salford couldn't buy a win), at the very most a possible points deduction depending on the circumstance but think that would be harsh.

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tansey's high shot was as bad as mellis......

No it wasn't.  It was nowhere near as bad as Meli's.

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Back in the day when the then Auckland Warriors joined the winfield cup and John Monie was the coach, they won a game but he made either one sub to many or had more men on the field than 13 I can't remember which it was. But the result was they lost the 2 league points.

In this case Salford clearly have 14 men on the pitch defending their goaline in the dying minutes of the game when leading by only 4 points. I think there is a clear case for the points to be stripped and given to Cas.

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I think there is a clear case for the points to be stripped and given to Cas.

Why should Cas get the points? There is nothing to suggest that they'd have definitely win had this not happened.

A precedent has been set and the fine wasn't too large. I think there should be a harsher punishment but it has to be official and not made up on the spot in a reactionary way.

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Why should Cas get the points? There is nothing to suggest that they'd have definitely win had this not happened.

A precedent has been set and the fine wasn't too large. I think there should be a harsher punishment but it has to be official and not made up on the spot in a reactionary way.

Why not Salford have gained an unfair advantage in the game, even if it was for only 1 or 2 tackles. I have no problem with setting a precedent.

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Just watched the dying minutes again - clearly, Salford have 14 players lined up in defence from 76.33 (earliest it was noticeable on Sky) until at least 76:46 (last shot available) that's too long to go unpunished - can see Salford losing thd points here!

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I wonder if the player coming on or the player meaning to come off actually made any tackles and wether that would make any difference.

I would never in a million years expect the points to go to the opposite team but salford could have there points stripped, I dont think a fine really does justice.

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Did the possession leading to this attack come from the drop out where Cas were offside?

 

If so Caas shouldn't have had the possession, as they should have waited for all the players to be on side.

 

I expect a fine and a warning about future conduct.

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Just watched the dying minutes again - clearly, Salford have 14 players lined up in defence from 76.33 (earliest it was noticeable on Sky) until at least 76:46 (last shot available) that's too long to go unpunished - can see Salford losing thd points here!

from memory that was almost identical to the Bulls v Wire one a few years back that saw little punishment. The Bulls were defending their own line on that occasion. A precedent has been set.

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Salford City Reds have been charged with a breach of RFL Operational Rules by fielding 14 players for a period during a Super League fixture against Castleford Tigers on Saturday April 27.

 

Salford are alleged to be in breach of Operational Rules B1.1, (General Competition Rules - Laws of the Game); B2:4 (Match Day Operations Manual (section D15 – Interchange)) and Operational Rule D1.8 (a) (serious or persistent breach of the RFL Operational Rules). 

 

The matter will be dealt with by an RFL Operational Rules Tribunal which will sit on Wednesday May 8.

 

If Salford are found to have breached RFL Operational Rules the Tribunal panel may consider a range of possible sanctions.  With limitation, these include a fine or in the case of a finding of misconduct which impinges on the integrity of the competition the deduction of competition points.

-ends-

 

John Ledger

Communications Manager

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So basically if it is deliberate - points deduction, if it is a cock up - fine sufficient?

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So basically if it is deliberate - points deduction, if it is a cock up - fine sufficient?

 

As always, how can anyone possibly determine the intention? I think the rfl will make an example of us and dock us the two points. I can't honestly say I'd blame them, it's unprofessional at the very least.

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Just read on sky sports that a similar thing happen in SL n the team got a fine but when it happened in the NRL the team got a fine n the points deducted the NRL game finished 28-26 not sure of the SL score. Id guess the fact this game was stil in contention will go against salford

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I've just thought up the answer to prevent this happening again - a member of each teams coaching staff should have an abacus with 13 black beads and 4 white ones (colours optional!) so they can slide them about to ensure only 13 players are actually playing.

A bit like a cricket umpire counting balls in an over with coins/stones :):D

That is of course assuming they can count!

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Just read on sky sports that a similar thing happen in SL n the team got a fine but when it happened in the NRL the team got a fine n the points deducted the NRL game finished 28-26 not sure of the SL score. Id guess the fact this game was stil in contention will go against salford

the Wire v Bulls game where this happened had almost identical circumstances, so I still expect no more than a fine.

The thing that may make it worse is I think they introduced new processes after the Bulls one so this really shouldnt happen.

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As always, how can anyone possibly determine the intention? I think the rfl will make an example of us and dock us the two points. I can't honestly say I'd blame them, it's unprofessional at the very least.

If the player entered the field without using the interchange card then IMO Salford as a club have a much stronger case to answer. Players are focusing on the game and want to get on/stay on so you have to give them a little leeway in terms of the process but there is always a member of the dugout staff whose job it is to organise the interchanges. They simply have to get it right. I wonder whether there was one interchange official (the Reserve Ref) or two (often a volunteer from the local society or at SL games could be a reserve TJ). The RR usually notes all the interchanges so there will be some written evidence and maybe video too since it was on Sky.

Some players are less inclined to leave the field when called than others but as professionals they simply have to do it. As an interchange official I've never done a 4 man interchange in one go, but I've done 3 at once quite often and that can be fun.

Largely the system works well and I don't think fans or clubs would want a system that only allowed interchanges at stoppages in play.

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I would think it more likely that they learned of it from www.casforum.co.uk, some posters on there are VERY close to the Castleford club.

OOOOH! Now I know about that forum I must spend more time slashing my wrists

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