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So who wins in the long run?

Briers gets a run out on his road to fitness... WIN

Warrington get a player acclimatised to the speed of the game......Win

Whitehaven get to face a real star of the game....LOSE

Swinton get a star player that could win them the game....WIN ( short term) but they also pee off their coach that is told who he must play...LOSE....the other Swinton players have to get used to a different style of play for one week...LOSE...

A very disgruntled player loses his place in the team( loss of wages) ...Lose , EVERY other Swinton Player knows that there is a better player waiting to boot him out of the team if someone at another club decides they want him dropped to make way for their star.

Yes, it helps the Superleague but does nothing for the Championship clubs

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Playing the likes of Briers at Swinton makes a mockery of the championship. It starts to make the Championship a lottery. Whitehaven would normally beat Swinton. But they could miss out on a playoff spot costing them money if Briers inspires Swinton to a win. It could also cost a team Relegation. The RFL should have sorted the EXACT rules out and made them public before the season started. So far its gone away from what it was announced as and there is much confusion over which club certain players are at. As for the idiot Goldcoaster- The Championship was a good comp and is and never has been a feeder comp. You clearly have no idea on the Championship or the European game by posting such rubbish. There are atleast 3 teams that are in a better state than a number of SL teams and also can field academy teams which SL clubs fail to do.

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Will you all please stop criticising the RFL they are doing a fantastic job in all aspects of the game . ;)

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Will you all please stop criticising the RFL they are doing a fantastic job in all aspects of the game . ;)

 

The super league clubs and RFL have dropped a huge clanger with how its all been handled but then the majority of the championship clubs could have reached a sensible agreement and didn't self interest always prevails

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RFL are so predictable/transparent. They DO NOT give '2 HOOTS' about most championship clubs 'individual ambitions' or else they wouldn't have scrapped the 'over age' ruling in the SL academy. They ARE NOT interested in Leigh, Oldham, Barrow, Swinton, Workington, Whitehaven etc being a top flight club once again.

THEY JUST HAVE NOT GOT THE B@LLS TO SAY SO.....My favourite sport in the world, has been ruined by a bunch of twi(a)ts in suits.

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Lets not forget that this doesn't stop here! The displaced championship player then moves down the ladder to a lucky amateur club (This causing the same problems Bearman mentioned in the 27th post on this thread) the displaced NCL amateur then moves down into the regional men's league displacing yet another player, this time the displaced player has nowhere else to go for a game, the following week everyone moves back to where they should be except the final displaced player who decides he is going to the coast with his family leaving the bottom team short on match day.

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The championship does not deserve to be a feeder league simple as! It should be a viably strong standalone division with prospect of promotion.

Well it's not, because there's no money and little interest.

Your solution?

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Playing the likes of Briers at Swinton makes a mockery of the championship. It starts to make the Championship a lottery. Whitehaven would normally beat Swinton. But they could miss out on a playoff spot costing them money if Briers inspires Swinton to a win. It could also cost a team Relegation. The RFL should have sorted the EXACT rules out and made them public before the season started. So far its gone away from what it was announced as and there is much confusion over which club certain players are at. As for the idiot Goldcoaster- The Championship was a good comp and is and never has been a feeder comp. You clearly have no idea on the Championship or the European game by posting such rubbish. There are atleast 3 teams that are in a better state than a number of SL teams and also can field academy teams which SL clubs fail to do.

Because they've lost 1 less game than Swinton this season? Stupid statement!

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It helps the Superleague but does nothing for the Championship clubs

It must help the championship if it helps one of it's members?

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There are atleast 3 teams that are in a better state than a number of SL teams and also can field academy teams which SL clubs fail to do.

Which CC teams are in a better state "then a number of SL teams"

Which SL clubs fail to field an academy??

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RFL are so predictable/transparent. They DO NOT give '2 HOOTS' about most championship clubs They ARE NOT interested in Leigh, Oldham, Barrow, Swinton, Workington, Whitehaven etc being a top flight club once again.

The RFL accepted SKY money for the big clubs to get bigger and the small clubs to rot.

They could have refused the SKY money so that all clubs could stay semi-pro and Leigh, Oldham, Barrow, Swinton, Workington, Whitehaven etc could all have become a top flight club once again, and again over this last 17 years.

Speaking to RL friends in Leeds tonight they say people in Dewsbury, Batley, Hunslet and Halifax don't have the same interest in the game now. Less follow it and the less moan more.

So what about it? Should the RFL have refused to take the SKY money because this money split the clubs??

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Well it's not, because there's no money and little interest.

Your solution?

Certain fans of those clubs don't want DR. Lee Briers is Warrington's problem. So what's your counter argument?

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Well it's not, because there's no money and little interest.Your solution?

There also seems to be a fall off of interest at Cas, Salford, London, Huddersfield and Bradford Parky judging by the alarming drop in attendances. Maybe that's why the RFL are actively looking at a possible solution right now. If they come up with the right one, it may well invigorate both leagues hopefully.

This DR shambles isn't helping anyone but SL, look where Swinton are in the table and there's discontent amongst their fan base. It won't exist in its present form after this season.

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Yes its ok for the Wolves......fair enough Briers gets match fitness.

Absolutely no way should he be influencing a Championship game.

I hope he scores a try ,sets two more up and wins the game with a last minute drop goal.Just so i can laugh some more at the idiocy of the clubs in the championship for accepting these partnerships

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Which CC teams are in a better state "then a number of SL teams"

Which SL clubs fail to field an academy??

Fax, Fev and Sheffield are in a better state in a number of ways than London, Castleford and until recently Salford and Bradford. Fev are developing the Stadium-something Cas for example have failed to do despite many nice pictures. Halifax have also a ground that puts Wakefield and Castleford to shame for example. The Ground is being further developed over the summer months with better drainage, new Scoreboard and the North Stand being worked on. Halifax are consistantly making small profit and seeing them in a healthy position especially compared to a number of SL clubs that are losing hundreds of thousands a year, if not more. Sheffield allegedly have one of the best Sponsorship setups within the game and helps them match Fev and Fax despite getting way smaller crowds that them

Salford fail to run an U19s like the rest of the SL clubs. Sheffield and Featherstone who are not in SL manage to do this and fill the gap. But Salford said they couldnt commit to the U19s I believe.Salford do run a U16s/U23s side. But a number of championship sides run U23s and Sheffield, South Wales, Cumbria etc run U16s

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It must help the championship if it helps one of it's members?

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one.

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So who wins in the long run?

Briers gets a run out on his road to fitness... WIN

Warrington get a player acclimatised to the speed of the game......Win

Whitehaven get to face a real star of the game....LOSE

Swinton get a star player that could win them the game....WIN ( short term) but they also pee off their coach that is told who he must play...LOSE....the other Swinton players have to get used to a different style of play for one week...LOSE...

A very disgruntled player loses his place in the team( loss of wages) ...Lose , EVERY other Swinton Player knows that there is a better player waiting to boot him out of the team if someone at another club decides they want him dropped to make way for their star.

Yes, it helps the Superleague but does nothing for the Championship clubs

They're not told the must play him

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So what's the point?

They are available for selection, but don't have to be played.

 

But to be fair, the Swinton coach would jump at the chance for Briers to play

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They are available for selection, but don't have to be played.

But to be fair, the Swinton coach would jump at the chance for Briers to play

A great chance for the Swinton players to benefit from his experience too.

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If you read the news article on the RFL website you will see that Lee has volunteered to play for his friend Gary Chambers in a bit to get his fitness back.

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A great chance for the Swinton players to benefit from his experience too.

It can take a half back quite a while for his plays to gel, so he won't be playing there unless Swinton really don't care who they upset on the playing rosta.

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This DR shambles isn't helping anyone but SL, look where Swinton are in the table and there's discontent amongst their fan base. It won't exist in its present form after this season.

It's helping Hunslet to survive, they said so Terry.

I know we hear things like "the fans don't want it" but they also don't want their clubs to go under either.

I maybe favour the idea if you can't run as an independent club why bother at all?

But the answer at Hunslet is the fans DO want it. So live and let live....

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Fax, Fev and Sheffield are in a better state in a number of ways than London, Castleford and until recently Salford and Bradford. Fev are developing the Stadium-something Cas for example have failed to do despite many nice pictures. Halifax have also a ground that puts Wakefield and Castleford to shame for example. The Ground is being further developed over the summer months with better drainage, new Scoreboard and the North Stand being worked on. Halifax are consistantly making small profit and seeing them in a healthy position especially compared to a number of SL clubs that are losing hundreds of thousands a year, if not more. Sheffield allegedly have one of the best Sponsorship setups within the game and helps them match Fev and Fax despite getting way smaller crowds that them

Salford fail to run an U19s like the rest of the SL clubs. Sheffield and Featherstone who are not in SL manage to do this and fill the gap. But Salford said they couldnt commit to the U19s I believe.Salford do run a U16s/U23s side. But a number of championship sides run U23s and Sheffield, South Wales, Cumbria etc run U16s

Well we could argue this all day but suffice to say Salford have a very rich owner that keeps them in SL, London have a rich owner and junior system that keeps them in SL and Bradford have had the ground purchased by the RFL the team protected by their SL friends, and have a businesslike board that has kept them in SL.

The idea the clubs at the top of the championship are all in fine fettle and the lower SL clubs are in a worse state isn't true. Three are doing well in a comp of less than £1M turnover and a £300K cap, the others are holding their heads above water operating in a competition of several £million turnover and £1,65M wages. No like for like comparison at all here.

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