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If everyone on here put as much effort into going to games as they did posting, maybe the club could do things with the extra money. I've never read such nonsense on this forum as this thread. We all know this is all talk, and not a single one of you will approach CH, and ask to take the club over.

Lets see who are the Fans,and who are the Keyboard warriors by turning up Friday night, and supporting the Under 20's against York. These lads are playing well, and deserve YOUR support. If you are fans, prove it. Stop spouting this buy out nonsense, unless you have about £450k to run the club Per Annum, and get behind YOUR team, and turn up Fri night, it's only £4 in FFS !!!

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I will turn up...

WHEN THIS CLUB IS UNDER NEW MANAGEMENT!

until it is I am a keyboard warrior...Get over it!

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ive got a season ticket, does that mean i can have an opinion.... i dont like the im a better fan than you malarky its not going to move the club on

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Got no problem if you have a season ticket, just sick of seeing the negative posts and people spouting s h i t.

Eclectic sheep, you staying away will not change the management. That's a rather childish attitude. If you support the team, you go watch, simple as that. I heard several fans last season saying they wouldn't come again till TB went. Where are they now ?, probably on here spouting garbage all the time.

I don't pretend to be a better supporter than anyone else, just one that goes and gets behind the team, win or lose.

AS I said, not one of you who want change, will approach CH with a buy out offer.

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Got no problem if you have a season ticket, just sick of seeing the negative posts and people spouting s h i t.Eclectic sheep, you staying away will not change the management. That's a rather childish attitude. If you support the team, you go watch, simple as that. I heard several fans last season saying they wouldn't come again till TB went. Where are they now ?, probably on here spouting garbage all the time.I don't pretend to be a better supporter than anyone else, just one that goes and gets behind the team, win or lose.AS I said, not one of you who want change, will approach CH with a buy out offer.

I'm a newbie at the Rugby so I can only go off what people have told me about CH. What happened with that fella who won the lottery a few years back and was going to invest?. Got told that he wanted to see the books but for some reason, nothing happened and he never got to see them. From what I can gather, that's happened to a few more people too. If CH has nothing to hide, why doesn't he put the club up for sale and let any interested parties in to see what exactly the position the club is in debt wise. By keeping quiet, it's only natural that rumours are flying around to the state of the club. To stop the rumours, he needs to communicate with the fans if he wants their continued support.

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He'll only put it up for sale, if he wants to sell. My car isn't up for sale, but if you make me an offer for it, I'll listen.

As for the Lottery winner, I was told by one of the Directors that he was stopped from putting his money in by his wife, and Camelot advised him that investing in sport clubs wont get you a return. So off he went.

As I keep saying, if you want to take the club over, approach CH, and see wether there is a deal to be done.

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allroughyed, I watched ORLFC in the 60`s 80`s (home and away) and under the Quinn era, I dont like the way the club has been run post Quinn and the quality of the Rugby seems to me at least to be on par with the local amateur scene now, Now you and a lot of others might not like to hear that, and its not all one persons doing, however taking a step or two back and looking at the 1997-2013 overview I have become convinced that there must be change at the very top to bring the progress that is plainly required. The last statement now in the public domain regarding Rugby Oldhams current stance to me suggests that they have received some communication from Chris that has given them confidence to declare some infrastructure investment in Whitebank stadium, I have massive respect for at least one dyed in the wool ORLFC and RL in general member of this organisation, and I see now that there is a growing likelihood that the Status Quo at Oldham RLFC is going to continue as Rugby Oldham state that their numbers represent a large percentage of spectators at Whitebank home games.

I cannot generate the same positive mindset at this time so I have voted with my feet.

The only way Chris is still in the position he is is plain to me,and I am not going to reward constant failure and lack of any accountability, though I am not party to any of the assurances that RO must have received and I do wish them well , who knows things might be turned around,people can change, teams do rise from the ashes...there have been some rather fascinating postings on this forum lately, I would dearly love to hear what Rodger Halstead thinks the way forward is and his view on the last few years, If he only knew how we used to devour his match reports and insightful comments and articles regarding all that once was ORLFC!

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Just had a look on www.duedil.com and according to their records, CH has 50,000 shares priced at £1 each and the Club has a book value of -£216,245.

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Just had a look on www.duedil.com and according to their records, CH has 50,000 shares priced at £1 each and the Club has a book value of -£216,245.

 

That is on the presumption that HE as bought the shares off BQ with his Money. According to BQ the payments have not been in his name.

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I'm sorry Harry but that all sounds a bit defeatist, and I normally agree with your posts. It strikes me that allegations have been made about financial irregularities taking place regarding the sale/purchase of shares. If something has been done illegally then, as someone in my local just pointed out, perhaps the RLF should be invited to investigate those allegations. If they turn out to be true then at the very least I would expect them to suspend CH pending further investigation. If he is proved guilty of anything illegal then the path to a takeover should be clear.

Just a thought.

 

I am not being a defeatist ex Scrum half the fact is no one knows the true situation because CH is not forthcoming with information.

 

I have only set out the situation as I see it in regard to the financial aspect and in relation to what others have said.

 

Only CH can provide the majority of the answers that the fans are asking for.

 

If he chooses not to then the club maintains the status quo which does not bode well for the future.

 

It is not being defeatist to ask for the full situation to be clarified in order for the club to move in a different direction it is being realistic.

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Admire your desire to do something Oldham13 and I'd attend any meeting you arrange.

 

However, would it be an idea for you or some one else to contact CH to see what he would want to sell up? in the past he has said - on more than one occasion - that he would. Despite that my information is that two credible bidders have been rebuffed in the past.

 

If he won't go it won't happen (with or without BQ)

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And as has been said before, he won't go because it pays his salary, I know I wouldn't give up my salary in this climate and I'm damn sure he won't. It will be run into the ground no matter how little fans turn up. I admire everyone's enthusiasm for change but if he won't give it up you can't have it. Quite telling to see how many posts this thread has had for the disillusioned as opposed to the few that trickle out from the dwindling band of 'loyalies'.

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I am happy to arrange the meeting and handle the agenda. We need the support of Rugby Oldham tho. I understand BQ will attend a meeting but I need to establish if rugby league are willing to attend and support this project.

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I am happy to arrange the meeting and handle the agenda. We need the support of Rugby Oldham tho. I understand BQ will attend a meeting but I need to establish if rugby league are willing to attend and support this project.

 

Pretty Clear an unequivocal statement from Rugby Oldham on 10th May on here

http://www.totalrl.com/forums/index.php/topic/239639-rugby-oldham/#entry2696670

 

This post is to remind rugby supporters in the town that information on Rugby Oldham, its aims and objectives and its activities can be found on the Rugby Oldham website.

 

The website has been updated this week after technical difficulties had meant little new information being posted for a few months.

 

Click on Newsletters to see the information we have provided to our membership. And remember the easiest way to stay in touch is to become a member yourself if you are not already. You can download an application form from the website.

 

If you are a Co-op member you can help boost Rugby Oldham's funds by donating all or part of your dividend to Rugby Oldham. You do this from the Co-op membership site where Rugby Oldham is listed among the good causes to which you can send dividends. A number of members already do this (myself included) and it is a quick and easy way to help a cause you believe in.

 

At one time it was also possible to contribute to Rugby Oldham via the 'Buy at' button whereby purchases at a large number of online retailers resulted in a percentage of the purchase price being donated to Rugby Oldham. In this way I was once able to donate £126 to our funds at no cost to myself as a result of booking a family holiday with Thomson. Unfortunately this opportunity no longer exists as the scheme has closed.  The 'Buy at' button will be removed BUT we are in the process of joining a new scheme with similar benefits and I will update you as soon as this is operative. 

 

Now, speaking personally and in view of the recent traffic on this forum, I would say that I/we are aware of supporter disillusion with the state of professional rugby and with the desire of some to do something about it. The position of Rugby Oldham, put simply, is that Chris Hamilton is the owner of Oldham RLFC (1997) Ltd. and is recognised as such by the RFL. Therefore it is impossible to form an alternative club and gain admission to the League. Furthermore, if you have checked our constitution, you will note that Rugby Oldham was not set up to run a professional rugby club nor to buy shares in the existing club. Despite comments made on this Forum over the years that that was our purpose it has NEVER been part of our remit. At this moment in time Rugby Oldham's commitment is to assist Chris Hamilton in the development of Whitebank with funds to help provide terracing. Until anything changes that remains the position.

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so everyone just go back to sticking their heads in the sand

no wonder we've lost most of our fans..

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Oh dear back to square one for the negative brigade lmao, what a set of pie in the sky clowns you are with your big proposals. Now perhaps you could keep your negativity off the messageboards and we true supporters of Oldham RLFC can get on with supporting our club and team. You have been told the Trusts point of view now so get behind the club and dont worry who runs it, BQ did such an amazing job didnt he lol, time for you to either prove you want a RL club in Oldham and pay your money at the gate to increase our turnover then something may be done with the ground etc, or go back to your knitting and gardening. Thanks for your wonderful support of our proud club and goodbye ;)

Taff

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Been there done that ,didn't work

Oh dear back to square one for the negative brigade lmao, what a set of pie in the sky clowns you are with your big proposals. Now perhaps you could keep your negativity off the messageboards and we true supporters of Oldham RLFC can get on with supporting our club and team. You have been told the Trusts point of view now so get behind the club and dont worry who runs it, BQ did such an amazing job didnt he lol, time for you to either prove you want a RL club in Oldham and pay your money at the gate to increase our turnover then something may be done with the ground etc, or go back to your knitting and gardening. Thanks for your wonderful support of our proud club and goodbye ;)

Taff

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Roughyed34 I guess you are happy for the club to carry on in it's present form then, does it not worry you that the crowds dwindle every season a worrying stat is that the biggest crowd at a rugby game this year in oldham was at a amateur game, stop slagging people because they have chosen not to go anymore, why not try to find a positive way of enticing them back, I myself no longer go to watch mainly because after many years watching home and away I am no longer prepared to pay out to watch a second rate outfit with a owner who alienates people like CH does, next time you see Mr. Hamilton feel free to ask him why two major sponsors and lifelong fans don't even attend games now, can I finish by asking how long you have been supporting the club and honestly tell me where you think it will be in 5 years time

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Fine i accept the fact you dont want to go,but dont call yourselves supporters of OLDHAM RLFC because the club is bigger and more important than the fact people dont like CH or the ground. If it wasnt for CH we wouldnt even have a club. I admit that things should be more open and the facts of the shares issue, accounts etc should be made available and then i think people would see where the money goes instead of having to resort to speculation, im just sick of the negativity of people on the board.For your information i and a group of us are trying to help the club so watch this space. As for enticing people back just out of interest how many of the stayaways would actually attend a game if some sort of offer was suggested? Thats no criticism just asking your opinion. I  have been going home and away for 36 years for what its worth. As for slagging people off its like a firing squad on here with people sniping at CH, the ground or anything which takes there fancy so thats a case of pot calling kettle black.

I dont know why you say second rate outfit? This team of lads we have stick together and try their best for Oldham, if you had been to Hemel you would have seen what the win meant to them and the supporters who travelled. The league we are in i think has surprised people (including me) with the exception of Gloucester. The rugby the new sides have played is not bad and tbh NW Crusaders look a class above at the moment including there off field set up.

In 5 years time i would hope we have a united fanbase back as frankly we need as many people through the door as possible, the ground to have a main stand and terracing down the Whitebank Road side (if we stay there), in terms of the finances it would be good to have a board back to provide a stable base to build from with perhaps a fans representative on that board. On the field (as it stands) to have a side capable of holding their own mid-table/playoff place in the Championship. Obviously i would prefer these things sooner than later!!

Taff

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You will get none of those things whilst the megalomaniac remains in charge!

Things need to be forced and a boycott by fans arranged.

Let's face it, anyone who can derive pleasure from watching the current side must be a masochist and it's hard staying away after watching for over 40 years but if we don't do something then the team and club will remain a sick joke and laughing stock!

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You will get none of those things whilst the megalomaniac remains in charge!

Things need to be forced and a boycott by fans arranged.

Let's face it, anyone who can derive pleasure from watching the current side must be a masochist and it's hard staying away after watching for over 40 years but if we don't do something then the team and club will remain a sick joke and laughing stock!

I'm sorry but I can't agree after seeing those lads and coaching staff flogging their guts out all through the winter and giving it their. I am not about to desert them. We all want something better but the team shouldn't suffer. We have a real chance of going up this season and if we get behind them the chances are greater. 

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There's nothing wrong with the current side, they are a set of lads who want to win, and have a lot of respect for the fans. If you don't want the "meglomaniac" in charge, then do something about.

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Roughyed34 thanks for your answer, with regards whitebank where else could we play, I have seen numerous comments on this forum regarding the showers etc at whitebank so I doubt if promotion would be allowed it is a criteria of north west counties even that warm showers have to be provided, a lot of people complained about BP but the crowds where good there, sadly a return there wouldn't happen. I don't doubt the players are putting a stint in the sad fact remains that they are still not good enough it is a sorry state of affairs when a town with our rugby history is struggling in a predominantly development league. In 5 years without change the club will not exist, I very much doubt with the debts it is carrying we will last two, good luck with helping the club perhaps you will succeed where others have failed but remember don't ask too many questions.

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