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joe elliot

The NRL is turning into the Premier League

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Will people start turning off the Super League to follow the NRL. Like many other country's around the world the premier league is followed more than their domestic game, could that happen here.

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I already have. I watch Leeds when I can, but never miss a Bulldogs game and catch all the big games over there. I usually catch 3 or 4 games a week but rarely watch the SL on TV.

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I already have. I watch Leeds when I can, but never miss a Bulldogs game and catch all the big games over there. I usually catch 3 or 4 games a week but rarely watch the SL on TV.

Same here but replace Bulldogs with Souths.

Replacing Sky Sports with Premier Sports started as an ecomonmic decision and can't see me changing back anytime soon.

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If Super League isn't able to find a way to be better-balanced and more geographically ambitious then I'll bail for NRL before long, yes. The clock has been ticking for a while, in truth. SL has maybe a year of my support left at best and I'm finding it increasingly harder to garner enthusiasm to go to games or even turn on the telly as we all yawn our way towards a Leeds-Wigan Grand Final.

I don't like the Premier League comparison though. The NRL is the opposite of the Premier League and much more NFL-like in its structure and delivery.

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Will people start turning off the Super League to follow the NRL. Like many other country's around the world the premier league is followed more than their domestic game, could that happen here.

 

 

I don't think that lots of people will turn off SuperLeague to watch NRl, though of course some may. To what extent is this forum representative of Sky sports subscribers?  i think that the nearer NRL gets to Premier League ( and lets face it, it has a long long way to go when United turn over over £300 million and make a profit of £23 million)  the expansion in soccer in the UK since the advent of the Premier League is something that we would do well to replicate.  The Premier League has pulled the Championship along with it. If only out game was 1/10 as successful!

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I used to watch SL each week on a Friday. Now I am not that bothered and would rather miss the SL game, so I get time to watch the NRL maybe two or three games some weeks. The good thing is often, I can watch 2 games or more back to back on a Saturday Morning.

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Will people start turning off the Super League to follow the NRL. Like many other country's around the world the premier league is followed more than their domestic game, could that happen here.

Given the success of the Australian A-League this year (it's bigger than SL is in England, and is quickly gaining on the NRL) maybe the EPL isn't revered so much in Oz

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Possibly. But let's remember that the Premier League is on the decline, giving way to La Liga and now the Bundesliga as those leagues get stronger and more interesting. We should stick to the Super League and do our best to improve its attractiveness, as we absolutely can. The NRL is attractive to Leeds fans for sure, as they seek to look a bit cosmopolitan, but we shouldn't go overboard.

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Given the success of the Australian A-League this year (it's bigger than SL is in England, and is quickly gaining on the NRL) maybe the EPL isn't revered so much in Oz

 

 

Naa mate, that's what the A League fans tell themselves out here to feel better, but it's not true.

 

The UK RL TV deal is nearly twice the amount the A League soccer contract is for a start, the A League (pro soccer game) along with internationals do not crack 2 million spectators a year whereas the RL in the UK does.

 

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-11-19/ffa-announces-new-a-league-broadcast-deal/4379596

 

 

The $160 million deal - made up of $140 million in cash and $20 million in advertising

 

The ESL TV deal is 130-140 million pound (including Internationals and BBC coverage).

 

The ESL gets 2 games a week on TV while the A League gets every game shown.

 

Edit, I just seen the NRL reference LOL

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Iv just subscribed, I was also talking to a guy today that never followed rugby until last year, and watched a game of NRL by chance and now he follows that instead of super league. His words were faster and more aggressive.

Up until this season I wasn't interested in the NRL, I can't wait to see Tomkins and Watkins over there now though.

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is it turning into the premier league???

well given theres only 3 or 4 teams that can win the NRL these days....and its becoming less competitive & intense year on year....id say yes its becoming like the premier league.

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I am contemplating cancelling Sky Sports and just having Premier Sports. I would've already done it if I weren't so forgetful

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You can of course watch a huge amount of NRL via Bet365. No need to subscribe to anything.

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Still? I'd heard that as part of Premier Sports' renewal of the rights, the betting websites getting the games for nowt had ended?

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Still? I'd heard that as part of Premier Sports' renewal of the rights, the betting websites getting the games for nowt had ended?

 

It's not every game but a few a week at least.

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I think there are a few things to this point.

 

Firstly, to watch SL you need to pay a decent amount for the Sports package (minimum £30 a month?). This is for only 2 live games. To watch NRL and Championships (8 or 9 games a week many live) is only a tenner - so this naturally makes for good value   in comparison. If you are the type of person that goes to your team's games regularly then I'm sure you the decision to pay the tenner becomes much easier. For somebody like me, getting rid of Sky Sports is not on the radar as it is my main way of keeping up with the game.

I wonder if it was £30 for 2 live NRL/Championship games per week there would be the same interest - I suspect not.

 

My other main point on this is that whilst I enjoy the NRL (I subscribed to Premier for the first time this year) I don't have that emotional bond with the comp which I find important in sport. I enjoy watching Souths - I have fond memories of my Nan bringing me a Souths shirt back from Oz years ago - but they aren't 'my team'. I grew up watching Warrington. I was brought up loving the rivalry with the likes of Saints, Wigan and Widnes - I've stood at Odsal and seen my team embarrassed and so on - I have a real genuine emotional tie to the British game and the teams in it, there is no way that I would stop watching SL.

 

Like I said at the start, I enjoy watching NRL, but it doesn't get me like SL does.

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I think the last point is a good one, which probably emphasises the NRL changing into the undoubted most watched league.

I still have an emotional tie to super league but for the first time ever I look forward to the games on premier sports. After a bit of time, if it carries on there will be a stronger tie for people watching especially as kids growing up watching it on a Saturday morning with there dads.

Which could then spell real trouble for the super league in terms of sky money

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It is the whole package that the NRL brings that is exciting. Watching games on TV with huge crowds make you want to be there. I enjoy watching SL games on a Friday night but it gets pretty embarrassing watching a SL game like Cas vs Widnes and there is around 3000 people at the game and plenty of empty seats. 

Plus I always enjoy listening to Rabs, Sterlo and Gus, Joey and Hadley.

I have always grown up with watching the NRL and following Balmain Tigers from when I was 4 years old and being at Wayne Pearce's last game at Leichhardt oval. The NRL just gets better each year and I for one enjoy seeing the Brits making their name over there like the old days of Hanley, Schofield and Crooks.

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I think there are a few things to this point.

 

Firstly, to watch SL you need to pay a decent amount for the Sports package (minimum £30 a month?). This is for only 2 live games. To watch NRL and Championships (8 or 9 games a week many live) is only a tenner - so this naturally makes for good value   in comparison. If you are the type of person that goes to your team's games regularly then I'm sure you the decision to pay the tenner becomes much easier. For somebody like me, getting rid of Sky Sports is not on the radar as it is my main way of keeping up with the game.

I wonder if it was £30 for 2 live NRL/Championship games per week there would be the same interest - I suspect not.

 

My other main point on this is that whilst I enjoy the NRL (I subscribed to Premier for the first time this year) I don't have that emotional bond with the comp which I find important in sport. I enjoy watching Souths - I have fond memories of my Nan bringing me a Souths shirt back from Oz years ago - but they aren't 'my team'. I grew up watching Warrington. I was brought up loving the rivalry with the likes of Saints, Wigan and Widnes - I've stood at Odsal and seen my team embarrassed and so on - I have a real genuine emotional tie to the British game and the teams in it, there is no way that I would stop watching SL.

 

Like I said at the start, I enjoy watching NRL, but it doesn't get me like SL does.

Pretty much the same for me.

 

I can watch a few teams in the Premier League, even though I don't support one, but the Bundersliga and La Liga are probably much better leagues - will I sit down and watch a match there because it's the best league in the world? No. Same for the NRL. I've no attachment nor much interest, no matter how many self fallating ego blogs are churned out Down Under proclaiming so.

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i have always been a massive fan of the NRL and the roosters in particular, i went over in 2004 to watch the play off series and grand final. but my heart always belongs to the mighty chemics.

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I love my club and I love live RL far more than I could ever love any sport on TV.  For that reason I think I'll always prefer the UK domestic competitions as it's something tangible and accessible.  

 

I don't have Premier Sports, but I do occasionally watch some NRL games via the internet, but the timing of the live games is for the Aussie home market and not very convenient for the UK viewer and it's all a bit detached as I don't identify with the side/places playing each other.

 

One thing I do love about the NRL is the commentary, the commentator describe the action without prejudice or opinion, the experts give their view.  Something Sky could certainly learn from.

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I've been going to Saint since the early 80's but I lived in Sydney last year and started watching the Doggies at ANZ and the rest of the games on TV.

 

The game day experience of going to a match live isn't that much different to going to watch a SL team (except SOO). However as an overall package the NRL is miles ahead. The quality of the game on the pitch is far superior and more entertaining to watch and the level of media coverage surpasses anything that footballs Premier league has in the UK.

Their TV coverage, aside from the fact that they televise every game, is better than Sky's, largely due to the commenty teams. Eddie, Stevo & the rest sound like thick, clueless baffoons who miss half of whats going on in the game and squabble amongst themselves about the rules and refree mistakes. In contrast the Aussie commentators are highly knowledgeable, and add in humour so its actually really enjoyable to listen to them.

 

Our chat shows are also an embarrasment with the likes of Terry 'I Fink' O'connor. Listening to him ask questions is cringeworthy.

 

Sky needs to make some serious changes to their commentary teams and bring in some intelligent & knowledgeable guys who are easy to listen to. Robbie Paul would be a good start, along with the likes of Jon Wilkin when he stops playing.

 

All this said, I'm a Saints fan through & through and will always go & watch them

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well given theres only 3 or 4 teams that can win the NRL these days....and its becoming less competitive & intense year on year....id say yes its becoming like the premier league.

Err....8 (I'm fairly sure) winners in the last 10 years?

A stunningly baseless comment.

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I'm gutted SkySports let the NRL coverage go because I won't increase my Sky bill for Premier Sports. Also it was a major loss for Rugby League as it's reduced the availability of the sport to SkySports customers. I knew of a few friends who enjoyed watching the NRL (especially the SOO and Internationals) and now they can't watch it. When I had Premier Sports I did watch more NRL than SL because, in general, it's more skillful, I don't have to listen to Eddie & Stevo plus it's a bigger spectacle.

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