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How much longer?

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I wonder how much longer can things go on at Hornets?

 

!) The link up with St Helens appears to have had few if any benefits.

 

2) Hornets are losing to teams we theoretically should be beating. Are they getting better or are we heading slowly to RL oblivion?

 

3) Has the fact we are a co-operative helped or hindered the progression of the club?

 

4) How do we move forwards?

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Where would we go if we left Spotland?

Pugwash.

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We'll let you share at the Whitebank

You may have hit on something there, perhaps not at Whitebank, but at somewhere convenient for both sets of fans. If both clubs pooled resources, you could develop a nice stadium, while keeping individual identities.

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I'd rather play on the roundabout at Slattocks than Whitebank. I seriously doubt that the two clubs could ever get that sort of thing off the ground as the Elton John 'looka-a-like' would always have to put the mockers on everything. Hamilton would not have to be in the equation for my part and I can't see him giving up his cash cow just yet!

I think we'll stay at Spotland eh?

Pugwash.

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I honestly think that with a bit of work Springfield Park running track could house hornets. The old hospital building is about 90% empty and could be used for functions etc..

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The Co-Op thing has been nothing short of a joke IMO and I think it will take a miracle to get the club back on track

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I'd rather play on the roundabout at Slattocks than Whitebank. I seriously doubt that the two clubs could ever get that sort of thing off the ground as the Elton John 'looka-a-like' would always have to put the mockers on everything. Hamilton would not have to be in the equation for my part and I can't see him giving up his cash cow just yet!

I think we'll stay at Spotland eh?

Pugwash.

Instead of Slattocks roundabout what about some where on Stakehill, plenty of unused space that could be cleared, good road conections and part way between the two towns. But then again would it be Hornets?

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The Co-Op thing has been nothing short of a joke IMO and I think it will take a miracle to get the club back on track

Errr, WE were talking about where we'd play Gavin, try to keep up mate!

Pugwash.

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always thought a nice little ground on kingsway would be a suitable place . one we and the community could use and a place we could call home .A place we can build links with the community . The JD stadium has a nice ring to it

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There is no money around for that to Happen, plus it would be like what you have now a Stadium that someone else owns so any monies you generate would go back into the Stadium Coffers not the Teams Personal Coffers !

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depends on the terms of the lease you got if the club managed the stadium and came to an agreement for the bars they would be better of than they are now

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I wonder how much longer can things go on at Hornets?

 

!) The link up with St Helens appears to have had few if any benefits.

 

2) Hornets are losing to teams we theoretically should be beating. Are they getting better or are we heading slowly to RL oblivion?

 

3) Has the fact we are a co-operative helped or hindered the progression of the club?

 

4) How do we move forwards?

 

1. The link with Saints has no benefit to us at all at present because of Saints huge injury list.

 

2. Hornets have lost to teams that could easily go pear shaped financially.

 

3. The co-op would be  even more successful if all the supporters bought into it.

 

4. How do we move forwards by following item 3 and getting more bums on seats...................IMPOSSIBLE IN THIS TOWN :angry:

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No serious business plan would have all the supporters buying into a membership

 

As to implying the town (and its people) are the problem I think we need to realise NO market research was done on hos attarctive Gloucestershire, Hamel, Oxford, North Wales, South Wales etc would be if admitted to the bottom tier.  I expect (pure speculation on my part) if i had people (including rugby league supporters) would have said no thanks.  But the RFL (and the folks who vote for these re-organisations and expansions) seemed to belive we just need to churn out a fixture list and tell folks they should support their local team.

 

None of these teams earned the right to join the Championship. 

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None of these teams earned the right to join the Championship. 

YAWNNNN!!!! anita bath

Get over it! these clubs are in the championship, which looks good on the hornets part as without them the Champ 1 league would no longer exist as it would not be viable with just 3 clubs in it, because I doubt that you would say that London Skolars have 'the right to be in the league either.

If my memory is correct hornets have also been on the wrong end of the scoreboard when playing some of these teams this season, so your post is just looking like sour grapes to me at least and probably other readers of your post.

Regards 7

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It was not meant to be a comment about the individual clubs, but about the process used by the RFL.  Apologies to the fans of the individual clubs if taken that way.

 

New clubs entering the football league earn their place through playing through the non leagues.  In RL, you simply apply to the RFL and through an opaque process you get to be a league team, in some cases a team that can attract only a hundred or so paying spectators. 

 

Expansion, and the rate that it has taken place has been a disaster.  It would be nice to know what the business plans of the expansion teams said about player recruitment, attendences etc.

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In nature expansion takes place outward from a point. Think of a plant's seed head bursting open, the seeds are dispersed over a few meters. The next generation get a bit further and so on. If I were in charge of expanding the game, this is the model I would follow. Or as Anita would have it, expand through promoting the best performing amateur clubs.

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Thanks guys for observations and positive comments ( apart from a minor bit of misguided barb from Pugwash aimed at Snoopy Loopy ) I think the whole future of Rugby League needs looking at. RL is not just about superleague and ergo Sky but about a way of life for northern folk and convertees from other areas. Yes its  great that we are encouraging people to our game and long may that continue but we cannot sacrifice the established sides and those traditionally who feed the professional and semi-professional game. Hornets fans and the fans from other long suffering teams deserve better from the RFL.

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It was not meant to be a comment about the individual clubs, but about the process used by the RFL.  Apologies to the fans of the individual clubs if taken that way.

 

New clubs entering the football league earn their place through playing through the non leagues.  In RL, you simply apply to the RFL and through an opaque process you get to be a league team, in some cases a team that can attract only a hundred or so paying spectators. 

 

Expansion, and the rate that it has taken place has been a disaster.  It would be nice to know what the business plans of the expansion teams said about player recruitment, attendences etc.

Anita,

 

I cant speak for other clubs but North Wales Crusaders put together a business plan when the Crusaders super league team withdrew its licence application for SL.  It was a plan put together by a group of supporters who wanted RL to remain in North Wales. the RFL rejected that plan and on their advice a new plan was devised to enter Championship One.  We had to show we had the ground, support and infrastructure to compete at this level otherwise we would have been rejected.  We have exceeded our projected attendance levels last season (highest in Championship 1), sold more than our expected season tickets last season and are on track to do the same this season. Every player in North Wales Crusaders has been sponsored this season and our club is sustainable i.e. operating within its means.  If that applies to all the other expansion clubs I would say we have all earned our places in Championship 1.

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Yes I would agree, and the Cru quite clearly are competitive both on and off the field at Ch 1 level. But please take a look at the attendences for the other games. Is it reasonable to assume that a business plan that said we expect to attract between 100 and 250 spectators (and I expect not all of those a paying full price) would be something the RFL would have approved?

Oh and its perhaps best not to metion some of those teams in the so called super league whose attendences hover around 2-3,000 despite all the media attention/promotion that SL gets. Was that part of their business plan?

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