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London Broncos to move in with Barnet FC?

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a rumour that has been sweeping the massed ranks of London RL fans for the past couple of days (there's quite a long thread on it by now on the Broncos fans forum) has now surfaced in the media:

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/may/09/london-broncos-new-ground-the-hive

 

I'm chuffed with this but now stand back and wait for some sour northern git to point out the ground capacity and start carping. Go on then, dare you ;-)

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I like the idea (depending on car parking) as I can drive there fairly easily from my house :D

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me too, 20 minutes - fandabbydozy! The site has 300 car parking spots and I know Canons Park tube has a car park nearby. Not sure what the street parking situation is - if it really is happening I'll do a recce. Really really want this to happen. The club could finally put down roots, we could get a good atmosphere going, the training facilities are top class, it's near my house - oh, did I already mention that?

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Two Jubilee Line stations close by, two Northern Line stations not that far away either. And, if the plans for the nearby Oriental City regeneration go ahead as planned, a good destination all round.

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The only downside surely is that capacity. There can't be any long-term future if we're going to call a 5,600 capacity venue 'home'.

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It's not East London though is it? I thought the idea was a share with Gillingham, or Orient or someone in that direction to alienate the core fans in the West

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The only downside surely is that capacity. There can't be any long-term future if we're going to call a 5,600 capacity venue 'home'.

 

at the moment it's ample but if a revival comes then there looks like there's a lot of space to expand. What's better for now - a small, brand new ground that will have an atmosphere or rattling around like peas in a tin at a ground that holds a lot more? Plus what's the best ever London RL average attendance? Whatever it is, it wouldnt be that massive a redevelopment to build a stand big enough to match it.

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i think Barnet have plans to extend the capacity to 10,000 in time.. sure i read that online in the last couple of days. though obviously at the moment 5000 is going to be the capacity. but let sbe honest, if the Broncos managed a 5000 crowd in the next couple of years id be over the moon!

 

on a slight tangent, saw a saracens game on TV last weekend, they're ground in Barnet looks very very nice..

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It's 17 miles from The Stoop as the crow flies, so close-ish to its existing fan base.

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the facility looks pretty good to satisfy all the the club would require for training, development and administration.

 

The location while a little far out from the centre is easily connected by the tube.

 

Also within reasonable distance of the existing C1 clubs so may persuade a few supporters to double up.

 

Gives the Broncos and RFL a chance to build a bit of a N London RL hub with three pro clubs all within 25 miles of each other.

 

Shame the RFL and Broncos didn't get onto it at the planning stages and invest to become part owners.

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i think Barnet have plans to extend the capacity to 10,000 in time.. sure i read that online in the last couple of days. though obviously at the moment 5000 is going to be the capacity. but let sbe honest, if the Broncos managed a 5000 crowd in the next couple of years id be over the moon!

 

on a slight tangent, saw a saracens game on TV last weekend, they're ground in Barnet looks very very nice..

 

FYI The South East England Champion (Carnegie that was ) Schools finals were played at Saracens' Allianz stadium earlier this week, so it's already been used for Rugby League games. 

 

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BJwj1_RCcAAvSR7.jpg

 

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BJwkYTvCIAEvkHn.jpg

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the facility looks pretty good to satisfy all the the club would require for training, development and administration.

 

The location while a little far out from the centre is easily connected by the tube.

 

Also within reasonable distance of the existing C1 clubs so may persuade a few supporters to double up.

 

Gives the Broncos and RFL a chance to build a bit of a N London RL hub with three pro clubs all within 25 miles of each other.

 

Shame the RFL and Broncos didn't get onto it at the planning stages and invest to become part owners.

 

Nothing to stop the Broncos or RFL getting involved in ownership of the place further down the line. We're talking about a Conference football team here, it wouldnt be a case of being very much the junior partners.

I'm sure a large % of Skolars fans already are Broncos fans and as for this Stags ST holder I'll be first in line for a Broncos one as well if this move happens. Come on RL gods smile down upon me

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On the 'Saturday afternoon from the Chandos, St Martin's Lane test ...' it's 65 minutes.

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FYI The South East England Champion (Carnegie that was ) Schools finals were played at Saracens' Allianz stadium earlier this week, so it's already been used for Rugby League games. 

 

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BJwj1_RCcAAvSR7.jpg

 

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BJwkYTvCIAEvkHn.jpg

I don't know why, but that feels like a little "win" in my eyes! It warms the heart!!

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Would look to be a solution that could be made to work. Right size for what they need, right side of London, on the tube, new ground, so they can be at the start of the ground's history, Barnet are never going to be a big club, and there seems to be the space to develop the ground, if London put down roots and develop as they should.

However you can't help but suspect that the Broncos will find some way to cock it up.

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 I would love Broncos to find a proper home and flourish. Just what happened to the SL licencing law for a 10000 capacity stadium?

 

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If this is the Broncos true long term home then thats brilliant !!

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Sharing with a Rugby Union Club and calling them Harlequins was close to disasterous.............................Rugby League is not rugby Union., we do not have the same values or beliefs and culturally there was a massive Chasm. I am glad that London will move because they need to get away from being remotely connected to a Union club

 

 

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I would love Broncos to find a proper home and flourish. Just what happened to the SL licencing law for a 10000 capacity stadium?

It's worth a point on the licence that's all. It just happens to be one of the few points London could tick.

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Imagine watching your team at the Broncos in a decent stadium that had a capacity of 5k. For some away trips, you might even have to buy your ticket in advance to ensure you don't miss out! There might even be a decent atmosphere. Broncos might even get some advantage of being at home with a noisy home support.

Gotta be so much better than what we get at the moment.

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I suspect when this particular form of licensing disappears then stadium capacity might go as well though the number of seating needed should remain along with baby changing facilities and covered loos

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Could be a good move- and crucially, it's on the tube line

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It's worth a point on the licence that's all. It just happens to be one of the few points London could tick.

Saintslass in another thread stated that Hull KR already have an exemption from the licensing criteria with a lower capacity than 10,000 and IMO criteria is going anyway.

As I have posted before on here this is the prototype small ground with a potential for a real atmosphere and for all-ticket games if marketed correctly. It will cut the running costs for the club and comes complete with training and Gym facilities. It will make the club more attractive to an outside investor as season losses will be within acceptable limits though a well run club should be targeting to get close to break even.

And with sound from all four sides the teams performance will pick up too. And it's on the tube which appears to be the matchday attendance criteria for some...

Tony Kleanthous was a failed suitor for London Wasps so is into "rugby" http://www.business-sale.com/news/article/administration-on-the-cards-for-wasps-36184.html

and given the cash strapped nature of the conference he needs another revenue stream or possibly a partnership. Because Broncos could end up being the bigger of the two clubs at the Hive.

Those with the interests of SE Rugby League and expansion at heart should cross their limbs, kiss their lucky charms, and offer prayers to whatever idol you worship that a deal can be inked in and If a deal is signed a Fan Forum will be in the offing...

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Why move to Barnet when RU have it sewn up with their superior marketing? Bonkers

Why not try a partnership with Brentford before Wasps do (and it looks like they will), or Orient?

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