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London Broncos to move in with Barnet FC?

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Why move to Barnet when RU have it sewn up with their superior marketing? Bonkers

Why not try a partnership with Brentford before Wasps do (and it looks like they will), or Orient?

The Broncos have nothing to fear from Saracens - possibly the only team in the top division of either code to haemorrhage more money than them on annual basis.

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Surely it'd be a case of out of the frying pan (Harlequins) and into the fire (Saracens) when it comes to getting some fresh air and real estate to sell your product?

Saracens seem to have to more money than sense and would be very hard to go up against head to head for attracting fans and for match day hospitality?

 

Other than that it seems like a sensible sized stadium in a location that is accessible to both driving and walk-up fans. East London still feels like a better fit for the Broncos for mine, but it seems like they're doing their homework thoroughly on this and have some good options now.

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Saracens has nothing to do with where we're talking about. Saracens play in BARNET. Barnet FC will now be playing in Canons Park which is in the borough of HARROW. Two different places, geddit?

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Isn't this just trading one deal for the same on a different location though?

I don't like to he negative, but the broncos would surely only be tenants of Barnett fc, and we all know the football lot love to blame someone else for their team losing.

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Why move to Barnet when RU have it sewn up with their superior marketing? Bonkers

Why not try a partnership with Brentford before Wasps do (and it looks like they will), or Orient?

 

Brentford? West London has Chelsea, Fulham, QPR, Brentford and Harlequins within a stones throw of each other for competition. North London has Arsenal, Tottenham and Saracens. East London has West Ham, Charlton and Millwall. You are going to get competition everywhere you go in London. 

 

You want to get away from clusters of competition in the north, east and west? Move to the south to Crystal Palace.  

 

And do you really want the Broncos playing out a 15-20,000 seater in Brentford on 2,000 crowds? The value of playing in a 5,000 seater cannot be overestimated for a club like the Broncos. It completely changes the perception of the club if they can start filling it out. 

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I still feel the target must be for the RFL and Broncos to purchase New River Stadium and the surrounding fields for a future home in the capital rugby league can call its own.

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Why move to Barnet when RU have it sewn up with their superior marketing? Bonkers

Why not try a partnership with Brentford before Wasps do (and it looks like they will), or Orient?

 

Brentford's new stadium at Lionel Road won't be ready until 2016 - at the earliest. The current Griffin Park pitch gets reseeded each summer, so Broncos would have to play on the road for part of the season. 

 

Orient's pitch, if I remember correctly, too small. It also means starting from scratch, building a fan base. If the club stays roughly to the west of London, it's got a chance of keeping some of its existing fans.

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Saracens has nothing to do with where we're talking about. Saracens play in BARNET. Barnet FC will now be playing in Canons Park which is in the borough of HARROW. Two different places, geddit?

Barnet? Harrow? It's all Cockfosters to me.

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Are the majority of the Bronco's fan base in West London?..

I doubt the majority are even based in London.

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on a slight tangent, saw a saracens game on TV last weekend, they're ground in Barnet looks very very nice..

The Copthall stadium? One the many homes of London Crusaders/Broncos, back in 1993.

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It's worth a point on the licence that's all. It just happens to be one of the few points London could tick.

 

 

London will lose that point, but might gain one - you get a point for having an average attendance of more than 40% of capacity IIRC.

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The Copthall stadium? One the many homes of London Crusaders/Broncos, back in 1993.

 

Allianz Stadium now.

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London will lose that point, but might gain one - you get a point for having an average attendance of more than 40% of capacity IIRC.

 

*gets calculator out*

 

We're currently on 2,111.  The capacity is either 5,100 or 5,600 depending who you read.

 

If it's the lower capcity we've just sneaked it.

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Are the majority of the Bronco's fan base in West London?..

 

Has anyone ever asked him where he lives?

 

Badoom-tish!

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Has anyone ever asked him where he lives?

 

Badoom-tish!

 

Chesham, he has a fold-up bike.

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Chesham, he has a fold-up bike.

 

So behind the times it hurts.

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the facility looks pretty good to satisfy all the the club would require for training, development and administration.

 

The location while a little far out from the centre is easily connected by the tube.

 

Also within reasonable distance of the existing C1 clubs so may persuade a few supporters to double up.

 

Gives the Broncos and RFL a chance to build a bit of a N London RL hub with three pro clubs all within 25 miles of each other.

 

Shame the RFL and Broncos didn't get onto it at the planning stages and invest to become part owners.

Heading to be a Championship club with a Superleague academy??

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Just to be clear, the points system was only used for the first round of licences.

And for the second round a Championship club needed a stadium with a capacity of 10,000 as a minimum criteria just to be able to apply. All existing Super League clubs in that licensing round already met that requirement except Hull KR, but they were committed to redevelopment that would see it reach that standard during the license term.

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as we all know the licensing system is almost certainly being chucked there's not much point worrying about ground capacity

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Saintslass in another thread stated that Hull KR already have an exemption from the licensing criteria with a lower capacity than 10,000 and IMO criteria is going anyway.

As I have posted before on here this is the prototype small ground with a potential for a real atmosphere and for all-ticket games if marketed correctly. It will cut the running costs for the club and comes complete with training and Gym facilities. It will make the club more attractive to an outside investor as season losses will be within acceptable limits though a well run club should be targeting to get close to break even.

And with sound from all four sides the teams performance will pick up too. And it's on the tube which appears to be the matchday attendance criteria for some...

Tony Kleanthous was a failed suitor for London Wasps so is into "rugby" http://www.business-sale.com/news/article/administration-on-the-cards-for-wasps-36184.html

and given the cash strapped nature of the conference he needs another revenue stream or possibly a partnership. Because Broncos could end up being the bigger of the two clubs at the Hive.

Those with the interests of SE Rugby League and expansion at heart should cross their limbs, kiss their lucky charms, and offer prayers to whatever idol you worship that a deal can be inked in and If a deal is signed a Fan Forum will be in the offing...

 

I do not agree with it but the conventional wisdom is that a 5 to 7,000 average is needed for a SL club to be financially stable. This could not be achieved in s stadium as small as this ?

 

If the Broncos do this and suceed, i don;t ever want to hear about Featherstone, Leigh, Halifax or anybody else not being able to generate gates big enough to survive in SL. I hope the Broncos do suceed in this small stadium to put those objections to rest. 

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Brentford? West London has Chelsea, Fulham, QPR, Brentford and Harlequins within a stones throw of each other for competition. North London has Arsenal, Tottenham and Saracens. East London has West Ham, Charlton and Millwall. You are going to get competition everywhere you go in London.

You want to get away from clusters of competition in the north, east and west? Move to the south to Crystal Palace.

And do you really want the Broncos playing out a 15-20,000 seater in Brentford on 2,000 crowds? The value of playing in a 5,000 seater cannot be overestimated for a club like the Broncos. It completely changes the perception of the club if they can start filling it out.

London were getting crowds of approaching 5k at Brentford before some gobshyte decided to move them back to the Stoop. If theyd stayed there they might be on 6-7k now.

Might be worth going to Griffin Park until 2016 to build momentum with Brentford - before Wasps do....

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