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There will be no new WCC format

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Plans like Gary Hetherington's for an expanded WCC will not be accepted.

 

The NRL commission will announce that one of their primary focus will be to improve the international calendar with no intention of changing the existing WCC format apart from exploring the opportunity for clubs to compete for the title at the end of the respective club seasons.

 

What a shame they don't make the WCC two divisions of 12!

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What a shame they don't make the WCC two divisions of 12!

Instead of the 14/16 two divisions they have now?

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You have any inside knowledge on this or did it come to you in a dream?

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Plans like Gary Hetherington's for an expanded WCC will not be accepted.

 

The NRL commission will announce that one of their primary focus will be to improve the international calendar with no intention of changing the existing WCC format apart from exploring the opportunity for clubs to compete for the title at the end of the respective club seasons.

 

What a shame they don't make the WCC two divisions of 12!

 

To be honest I would be more than happy if the NRL are to get serious about the international game, a development that is much overdue and more important IMO than expanding the WCC.

 

If any change were to be made to the WCC, it is to play both SL and NRL Grand Finals on the same weekend and then the WCC within a fortnight of the Grand Finals.

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Instead of the 14/16 two divisions they have now?

 

haha, indeed

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You have any inside knowledge on this or did it come to you in a dream?

 

yes, this information has been discussed already among the higher management within the RFL

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Honestly, arrange one match between Samoa and Tonga and suddenly the NRL are experts on the international game.

Genuinely would be a welcome development if they were to get keen on fixing it though. And I'd definitely take that over the WCC.

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The NRL commission will announce that one of their primary focus will be to improve the international calendar

They should start by not stealing Pacific Islanders from Samoa, Tonga, Fiji etc. And the Kiwis can stop too!

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That's on daft idea gone at least. Now if we can just scrap this idea of an under funded SL 2.

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In the Samoa v Tonga game, one of the TV commentators said 30% of NRL players were Polynesian, and 40% were at under 19 comp level.

That suggests there's probably enough players for some decent Polynesian teams.  

 

With PNG, NZ, Tonga, Samoa and Australia, you've got the potential for a competitive 5 Nations tournament. The Samoa v Tonga game was played in Aus, and on TV in Tonga (Samoa as well I guess), so it could be played in Aus to full crowds.

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Yeah that is of Polynesian heritage. Many are Australian or New Zealand born. I find myself a little contradicted because I would fully embrace these players to represent their heritage if they are born Australian, yet find it embarrassing when I hear Aussie accents interviewed in an Italian jumper.

I like the idea of a 5 nations style comp but the scary thing is, if those pacific island nations get regular big stage internationals against the Aussies and Kiwis, I see England falling to 6th in the world rankings

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They should start by not stealing Pacific Islanders from Samoa, Tonga, Fiji etc. And the Kiwis can stop too!

Such as who?

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 the scary thing is, if those pacific island nations get regular big stage internationals against the Aussies and Kiwis, I see England falling to 6th in the world rankings

 

If England fall behind those countries they have only themselves to blame.

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well, imo at least there wont be some convoluted WCC tournament mid season with more representatives than the two premiers. I just hope like another poster that this game is played at the end of the season and not the beginning.

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They should start by not stealing Pacific Islanders from Samoa, Tonga, Fiji etc. And the Kiwis can stop too!

 

 

They should start by not stealing Pacific Islanders from Samoa, Tonga, Fiji etc. And the Kiwis can stop too!

Which Pacific Islanders would these be ? Australia has contributed more players to international RL than any other followed by New Zealand.. 

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i have heard this before DHW, but all I have to say is Tony Carroll. Don't start getting on some moral high ground. The Aussies have been at the forefront of ruining international RL for almost 20 years

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The whole "stealing" thing doesn't sit right with me either. You hear it in rugby union also about New Zealand supposedly stealing all Islander players. I always get the feeling that people saying it must either think anyone who isn't white is an immigrant, or that actual migrants can't somehow assimiliate and become proper citizens of whichever nation they move to.

 

Must be a bit offensive for some of these Islander heritage players to hear how they should be playing for a place like Tonga, and not Australia or New Zealand, the countries in which for the most part they were born and raised in. It would be sort of like if an Aussie was to complain about England stealing players from the Carribean/Africa because there's been a few black Britons who've played in our team over the year  :lol: 

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Fuifui Moimoi

You mean a player that immigrated to NZ as a child, played all his junior RL in NZ and was developed there? I'd say he's very much representative of NZ RL.

Does Willie Manu playing for Tongan mean he was stolen from the Aussies then?

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I'm not sure that the WCC really needs to be expanded, but if it does, then Hetherington's idea was by far the best plan for it.

 

But if this really means that the NRL is going to put some serious weight behind international RL then it's the best outcome.

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Plans like Gary Hetherington's for an expanded WCC will not be accepted.

 

The NRL commission will announce that one of their primary focus will be to improve the international calendar with no intention of changing the existing WCC format apart from exploring the opportunity for clubs to compete for the title at the end of the respective club seasons.

 

What a shame they don't make the WCC two divisions of 12!

 

That's not what Steve Mascord says that Scott Carter told him (check out the latest Forty 20). And,no offence, I'm leaning more towards believing him than your contacts/voices in head ;-)

Likely to be a two team comp in 2014 in Perth. The next it will be the 3 v 3 in England exactly as Hetherington said AND AND (I'm getting excited at this point) there are plans for the NRL teams to play exhibition games in Perpignan and London beforehand.  Check out Forty 20, there's a lot more to the article than that - a very interesting international calendar ahead. Exciting times we live in!

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The whole "stealing" thing doesn't sit right with me either. You hear it in rugby union also about New Zealand supposedly stealing all Islander players. I always get the feeling that people saying it must either think anyone who isn't white is an immigrant, or that actual migrants can't somehow assimiliate and become proper citizens of whichever nation they move to.

 

Must be a bit offensive for some of these Islander heritage players to hear how they should be playing for a place like Tonga, and not Australia or New Zealand, the countries in which for the most part they were born and raised in. It would be sort of like if an Aussie was to complain about England stealing players from the Carribean/Africa because there's been a few black Britons who've played in our team over the year  :lol:

 

That reminds me of a comment made on here during the Scotland v Tonga world cup game in 2008. Despite both sides being largely made up of players born elsewhere, this clown said that at least the pacific island side 'looked Tongan'.  :rolleyes:

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As for the WCC, there might not be one for too much longer if we continue to lose players to the NRL and reduce the salary cap.

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That reminds me of a comment made on here during the Scotland v Tonga world cup game in 2008. Despite both sides being largely made up of players born elsewhere, this clown said that at least the pacific island side 'looked Tongan'.  :rolleyes:

 

Lol that's great. But that makes me curious... by what measure didn't the Scottish team look Scottish? Not enough red heads and a lack of tartan jerseys? :lol:

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