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  1. 1. Which opition/format for Super league do you want from 2015 onwards?

    • Option 1 - Super League reverts to a 12-team competition (from 14) and a 10 or 12-team Championship, with one club promoted and relegated each year.
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    • Option 2 - A two division Super League with each division comprising of 10 teams.
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    • Opition 3 - Two divisions of 12 in Super League with teams playing each other one to provide 11 fixtures before spliting into 3 groups of 8 in mi-season then playing each other home & away to provide 14 more Matches.
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Option 1 - Super League reverts to a 12-team competition (from 14) and a 10 or 12-team Championship, with one club promoted and relegated each year.

Option 2 - A two-division Super League with each division comprising 10 teams.

Option 3 - Two divisions of 12 in Super League, with teams playing each other once to provide 11 fixtures before splitting into three groups of eight in mid-season and then playing each other home and away to provide 14 more matches.

 

which option for you and why?

 

me option 1 keep it simple and super league can not properly fund more than 12 teams to the requirements needed to make the game high quality.

 

my order of preference is

 

 

option 1

then

option 2

then option 3

 

these 3 options are the only options available for super league format from 2015 onwards.

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I honestly don't know what the difference is between options 1 and 2

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I honestly don't know what the difference is between options 1 and 2

 2 teams in the top league I think (and potentially 2 in the lower league).  Also P&R numbers not defined in option 2.

 

Personally for me 10/12 team superleague (with full time palyers) and a championship structure beneath with part-time semi-pros.  No P&R and review every few years (say 3) to see if we can take another couple of teams commercially.

 

For me the gulf between pro and semi-pro (and Full time v Part time) is too great to be conducive to P&R.

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Option 1 make it a straight forward question with no  10/12 12/14  its either one or the other.

You will finish up with another debate on option 1. A well it is Rugby League.

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Whilst I like Option 3 - or a similar version that I wrote on here about 6 months ago - I fear it may be too radical at the current time, and I'd be happy with Option 1.

 

I don;t think any option will fix all the games ills, nor will any kill the game off. There are pro's an cons to them all.

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Whilst I like Option 3 - or a similar version that I wrote on here about 6 months ago - I fear it may be too radical at the current time, and I'd be happy with Option 1.

I don;t think any option will fix all the games ills, nor will any kill the game off. There are pro's an cons to them all.

A streamlined Super League should at least raise intensity and prompt a move back to top five playoffs.

It should also free up £2.4m pa in central funding which could go a long way towards helping the 10 Championship clubs move towards full time professionalism.

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Option 3 - Two divisions of 12 in Super League, with teams playing each other once to provide 11 fixtures before splitting into three groups of eight in mid-season and then playing each other home and away to provide 14 more matches.

 

which option for you and why?

This - shake the lot of them up and damn the consequences, it will be fascinating.

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The reconstruction debate is a bit like the one happening in Scottish (Premier) League.

 

Perhaps it is time for the two of SPL and Rugby League's Super League to sit down and learn from each other i.e. the advantages and disadvantages of implementing something is to see if the idea used by one but not the other could be implemented in the other competition to improve it or not.

 

Like would super League benefit from having all seated stadia like the Scottish Premier League has.

 

Would the Scottish Premier League benefit from implementing a wage cap like happens in rugby League's Super League. 

 

a bbc sport article from the 2001 compared the two competitions plus the county cricket championship, the football League's championship (then call Nationwide Division 1) and Rugby Union's then called Guinness Premiership in the article.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/front_page/2525065.stm

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As it is now but back to 12 teams.

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Whilst I like Option 3 - or a similar version that I wrote on here about 6 months ago - I fear it may be too radical at the current time, and I'd be happy with Option 1.

I don;t think any option will fix all the games ills, nor will any kill the game off. There are pro's an cons to them all.

Last paragraph absolutely spot on. Think a lot of people need to realise this.

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12 team SL with licensing

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Or contact Littlewoods Pools to see if one of their old LIT plans could be of any use. :P

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serious point

 

8 teams super league playing each other team in the league 4 times

 

or a 16 Team super league playing each other team in the league 2 times for 30 games per super league edition. 

 

The reason I ask is quality v quantity

the smaller the number of teams in Super league group/division the higher the quality of the teams played each week but the more times the same teams in super league will have to play each other in order that the fixtures played by each club in each edition of super League is a close to 28 games as possible.

 

the larger the number of teams in Super league group/division the higher the lower the quality of teams played each week but the less times the same teams in super league will have to play each other in order that the fixtures played by each club in each edition of super League is a close to 28 games as possible.

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14 teams, based on 3 year licences.

 

Top 5 play offs to decide the winner.

 

Job done.

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14 teams, based on 3 year licences.

Top 5 play offs to decide the winner.

Job done.

Wonder if you'd say the same if Huddersfield were stuck in div 2 ?

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A streamlined Super League should at least raise intensity and prompt a move back to top five playoffs.

It should also free up £2.4m pa in central funding which could go a long way towards helping the 10 Championship clubs move towards full time professionalism.

It would also condem the championship clubs who finish outside the top 10 to financal ruin. If this idea is going to happen it should wait unti after a season where daul reg does not slew the balance

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It would also condem the championship clubs who finish outside the top 10 to financal ruin.

 

No it wouldn't. It would be no different to how it is now.

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In all seriousness, this is my CAST IRON plan for Superleague success.

 

1.  All the teams names are placed in a pot and drawn out on live TV to find out who will play who in the Superleague

 

2.  The paired up teams will play each other a number of times in a row, alternating home and away, with the number of fixtures chosen by Alex Murphy rolling an eight sided die (1d8, for any old enough and geeky enough to know what that means).

 

3.  The 5 teams with the best points difference after the first phase will then play off against the bottom 5 teams in a decider round.  The middle four teams will have the week off, before playing four of the five losing teams (drawn at random).  The overall winners from this process will form the top league, and the losers will form the second tier.

 

4.  The teams  will play the other teams in their own leagues twice, home and away, and each of the other league teams at a neutral venue chosen by Phil Taylor throwing darts at a map in a glitzy ceremony to be held in a pub in Sharlston.

 

5.  All the results will be totted up, with each teams best 2 and worst 2 results removed, to create a final league table, after which the League Leaders Shield will be awarded.  As not all teams will have played each other the same number of times, there will then be a 9 team play off, comprising the best 4 teams from the top division, 3 teams from the lower division, and 2 teams from France (Catalans and the winners of a play off match between the highest place non-qualifying team in the main group and the French Champions)

 

6.  The "Super 9" playoffs will then work as follows

 

Week 1

1v9, 2v8, 3v7, 4v6.  Winners go through.  5th place team gets a bye

 

Week 2

4 Losers from first round participate in a 7s tournament, everyone else gets a bye

 

Week 3

The winners from Week 1 play off against each other on the Saturday, with the winning team that concedes the most points playing a knockout match against the winners of the 7s tournament in Week 2 on the Sunday.  This will leave two winners overall who will go onto...

 

Week 4

 

The Grand Final.  A straight play off to crown the Champions.   Winners get a tacky ring with an S on it. 

 

 

 

But the thing that really makes this innovative, that will really get the punters in?   At half time in every match, the losing team will chose a player on the winning side to swap sides, leaving the second half to be played 12 vs 14.

 

 

This is clever, innovative, provides a clear incentive to all teams, allows progression for lower sides, and will encourage teams to make the most of their younger, British players.

 

How can it fail?

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Wonder if you'd say the same if Huddersfield were stuck in div 2 ?

 

 

Yes, I would.  I've been watching Huddersfield, geography permitting, for well over 20 years.  For the first decade of that the club had no hope whatsover of competing in the top division.  I still watched, along with about 2,000 others.  We had a cracking rivalry with Keighley going in the early to mid 90s as I recall.

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Remain as it is for me but reduce the period to 2 years. ie whoever gets promoted gets a years grace to adapt. So someone gets promoted every other year. No need to panic because people keep repeating that RL is in trouble.

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