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Emosi Koloto

Sinfield's form in last few games

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Just saying, as the saying on here goe's

You pick the best players available. Brough is the best 7 we have in the country by some distance. The reasons people are giving for not selecting him have nothing to do with what happens on the pitch.

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Brough has loads of ability and is without doubt the best half back available to England, more than that he has a world class kicking game that would be a huge weapon against the top 2 nations.

He seems to get vilified for having an ego, attitude, for being arrogant, cocky and wanting to win so much that he berates his team mates when he feels they're not up for it. All the trademarks of the best British halfbacks in the history of the game and the very same traits that made Andy Gregory, Alex Murphy, Bobby Goulding, Roger Millward etc winners and fans favourites.

We've bitched for years about not having a halfback who can mix it at international level and one who doesn't have to be carried or hidden in the defensive line yet we seem to have fans who'll happily ignore Broughy because they don't particularly like him.

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Brough has loads of ability and is without doubt the best half back available to England, more than that he has a world class kicking game that would be a huge weapon against the top 2 nations.

He seems to get vilified for having an ego, attitude, for being arrogant, cocky and wanting to win so much that he berates his team mates when he feels they're not up for it. All the trademarks of the best British halfbacks in the history of the game and the very same traits that made Andy Gregory, Alex Murphy, Bobby Goulding, Roger Millward etc winners and fans favourites.

We've bitched for years about not having a halfback who can mix it at international level and one who doesn't have to be carried or hidden in the defensive line yet we seem to have fans who'll happily ignore Broughy because they don't particularly like him.

 

Have people really vilified Brough for all those traits that you mention?

 

On balance, I'd have Brough before Sinfield.  The big worry is that Brough hasn't proved anything at international level, but then he's not had a chance and Sinfield has had about thirty!  I'd certainly have him before Luke Robinson and Kevin Brown, both of whom have featured for the national side.

 

The problem for me, is that he declared himself for Scotland.

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Have people really vilified Brough for all those traits that you mention?

 

On balance, I'd have Brough before Sinfield.  The big worry is that Brough hasn't proved anything at international level, but then he's not had a chance and Sinfield has had about thirty!  I'd certainly have him before Luke Robinson and Kevin Brown, both of whom have featured for the national side.

 

The problem for me, is that he declared himself for Scotland.

And tbh, he was pretty rubbish last time I saw him for Scotland a couple of years back against Wales, where Lee Briers gave him a masterclass.

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Brough has been round the block quite a bit hasn't he?

Brough to be clear, is 30.

 

Not that it matters, but I was surprised when I saw his age the other day. He's been around for so long but to me he's still 26-27!

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Brough to be clear, is 30.

 

Not that it matters, but I was surprised when I saw his age the other day. He's been around for so long but to me he's still 26-27!

 

Brough had genuine pace when at Wakefield, I think he's still pretty quick.  

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Only compared him in the sense of people think they're over rated.

Sinfields a far better captain there's no comparison I agree ;-)

I don't think many people thought Faz was overrated. However, many objected to him being selected as a standoff. There's no doubt he was one of the outstanding British players, both domestically and at Test level, of his generation.

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He caught McGuire with ease in the cup game

 

Yes.  That's far less of a challenge too these days though.

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Brough has to be the leading contender for the England 7 shirt.

Chase was good for Cas but the Aussies and Kiwis know all about him. They'll never had heard of Brough, which could be a surprise for them.

We need to go with four half backs for the World Cup and mine would be Widdop, Brough, Myler and Leon Pryce who would have a utility value as well.

I wouldn't have Sinfield anywhere near the England half back set up, not fast enough or good enough.

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I'd rather Sinfield had a few average performances now rather than later in the season for England. Brough on his day is a great player. However England have been building a team over the last few years. I don't want England to pick the best 13 individuals for the World Cup. I want the best team.

Those players are going to be in camp together for 6 weeks. They are going to have to put their bodies on the line for the bloke next to them and to make sacrifices for the sake of the team for 6 whole weeks.

It's not just about chucking the 13 best players out there and saying go win the World Cup.

For year's people have been saying if we're going to beat the Aussies England/GB need to do something different. That's what has been happening for the last few years. We've now got a club feel to the England side. Brough was part of the squad last year and played in the Exiles match. Not only didn't he play well, but he obviously didn't fit in to the team, else he'd have been back in the squad this year.

Brough is 30. Been at lots of clubs. Just how many medals does he have in his trophy cabinet?

We're in this World Cup to win it, not to have a few flash moments that look good on the replays.

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Brough is 30. Been at lots of clubs. Just how many medals does he have in his trophy cabinet?

We're in this World Cup to win it, not to have a few flash moments that look good on the replays.

 

It's a cup, he's got a cup winners medal.

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I'd rather Sinfield had a few average performances now rather than later in the season for England. Brough on his day is a great player. However England have been building a team over the last few years. I don't want England to pick the best 13 individuals for the World Cup. I want the best team.

Those players are going to be in camp together for 6 weeks. They are going to have to put their bodies on the line for the bloke next to them and to make sacrifices for the sake of the team for 6 whole weeks.

It's not just about chucking the 13 best players out there and saying go win the World Cup.

For year's people have been saying if we're going to beat the Aussies England/GB need to do something different. That's what has been happening for the last few years. We've now got a club feel to the England side. Brough was part of the squad last year and played in the Exiles match. Not only didn't he play well, but he obviously didn't fit in to the team, else he'd have been back in the squad this year.

Brough is 30. Been at lots of clubs. Just how many medals does he have in his trophy cabinet?

We're in this World Cup to win it, not to have a few flash moments that look good on the replays.

Could not agree more, my thoughts on the subject exactly.

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It's a cup, he's got a cup winners medal.

One cup winners medal, not much of a return for a player who some reckon to be the answer to all our prayers! As for Peacock, if he was younger then clearly we should.

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One cup winners medal, not much of a return for a player who some reckon to be the answer to all our prayers! As for Peacock, if he was younger then clearly we should.

I meant Peacock is the only Leeds player with a Cup winners medal! :ph34r:

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I'd rather Sinfield had a few average performances now rather than later in the season for England. Brough on his day is a great player. However England have been building a team over the last few years. I don't want England to pick the best 13 individuals for the World Cup. I want the best team.

 

That is all well and good but if players are a hinderance to that system, they need to be dropped no matter what characteristics they bring to the team. Sinfield is a very good rugby league player but is too slow to play half back against the Australians. In the 2011 Quad Nations, I thought he was a hinderance to Chase who visibly would get annoyed with his half back partner. By all means include Sinfield in the set up in some form but he isn't a big enough threat for me at half back to warrant a place in the game day squad.

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Brought has been the best stand off or a couple of seasons now, that he hasn't wont many medals is irrelevant - given the trophies have been dominated by two or three teams

The fact he has one cup winners medal alone says he has more medals that a huge proportion of super league players

We might have been building a team for some time, but if the architect is too incompetent to realise he has used poor cement that won't mean a damn in the autumn

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We might have been building a team for some time, but if the architect is too incompetent to realise he has used poor cement that won't mean a damn in the autumn

 

Do you think we'll need to put a finger in a dyke then?

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