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Sinfield's form in last few games

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I think christopher needs counselling.

Thanks for your well thought out balanced response toy points

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But they have only failed against Australia and that is simply because unfortunately Australia are a far superior team with better players. It is not because Sinfirld was in the side.

They haven't failed against any other international side

We di have a chance of winning the Wotld cup because we can beat Australia just not consistently, we need to get to the final and hope. ALL the English players play out of their skin.

But again as I've said earlier, I'm judging Sinfield on HIS performances against the top 2 teams in the world and on that scale he's been an abject failure.

I could come out of retirement and play well against Wales & France etc that's no yardstick upon which to judge a payers international qualities.

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I think christopher needs counselling.

Thanks for your well thought out balanced response toy points

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But again as I've said earlier, I'm judging Sinfield on HIS performances against the top 2 teams in the world and on that scale he's been an abject failure.

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But he hasn't, England have won both the last 2 games against NZ with Sinfield in the side and he's been MOM in both games.

They are facts not opinion.

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Wasnt he playing at hooker in those games?

Not 6?

Omega never mentioned positions just that he's been a failure (which he hasn't) he played 6 in 2011 started at 9 in 2009 but moved to halfback when roby came on

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11 pages on and he's still the captain of England !!

People mentioning brough as a preferred option, what happens when he gets roughed up??

Danny is a good player, for me he isn't consistent enough, has gone missing in too many super league games and not international class.... Myler has had the better of brough in many games recently and most don't rate Richie!!

But that's my opinion

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Thanks for your well thought out balanced response toy points

 

You have (almost) single handedly turned a genuine discussion about Sinfield's form into some kind of semi-religious hero worship; inventing a "hate" campaign and ignoring any and all reasoned and considered counter points, taking any viewpoint that he's not some kind of prophet very personally and as the most offensive sacrilege.  I suggest you get a copy of the faux Golden Boot issue of Rugby League World, some tissues, and enjoy yourself.

 

Enjoy your rugby league.

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You have (almost) single handedly turned a genuine discussion about Sinfield's form into some kind of semi-religious hero worship; inventing a "hate" campaign and ignoring any and all reasoned and considered counter points, taking any viewpoint that he's not some kind of prophet very personally and as the most offensive sacrilege.  I suggest you get a copy of the faux Golden Boot issue of Rugby League World, some tissues, and enjoy yourself.

 

Enjoy your rugby league.

And you say Christopher needs counselling, mirror cracked?

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You have (almost) single handedly turned a genuine discussion about Sinfield's form into some kind of semi-religious hero worship; inventing a "hate" campaign and ignoring any and all reasoned and considered counter points, taking any viewpoint that he's not some kind of prophet very personally and as the most offensive sacrilege. I suggest you get a copy of the faux Golden Boot issue of Rugby League World, some tissues, and enjoy yourself.

Enjoy your rugby league.

What is wrong with you?

Sinfield may not be a line breaking speed merchant, a try scoring machine or bulldozing monster but what he does well is something I would he in my team every match. He is a controller, an organiser, the type of player Australia have always had on the pitch.

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11 pages on and he's still the captain of England !!

People mentioning brough as a preferred option, what happens when he gets roughed up??

Danny is a good player, for me he isn't consistent enough, has gone missing in too many super league games and not international class.... Myler has had the better of brough in many games recently and most don't rate Richie!!

But that's my opinion

Not in the last few years he hasn't

And neither has Myler outplayed him.

The wire pack has bossed the giants pack though, so I can see how you get confused ;)

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Not in the last few years he hasn't

And neither has Myler outplayed him.

The wire pack has bossed the giants pack though, so I can see how you get confused ;)

Agree to disagree, 11 pages of other stuff I think we'll leave :P

Sinfield still captain of England :-)

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Agree to disagree, 11 pages of other stuff I think we'll leave :P

Sinfield still captain of England :-)

11 pages of other stuff that you can leave if you like but don't presume to choose for everyone else, as always with a forum you are free to ignore a thread if you like.

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I really don't get people's points on here. Sinfield will be part of the squad and probably in the team. As long as his form picks up towards the end of the year that will happen. He has been appointed captain and the caoching staff have faith in their strategy.

 

I think people forget that NZ won the World Cup and 2010 Four Nations with 'Lance Hohaia' at full-back and 'Nathan Fein' as scrum half. Fein wasn't even a half-back just a converted hooker and played the whole of the 2010 regular season at hooker. It was obviously the team ethic and game plan which beat the Aussies twice.

 

Since then the so-called superstars of Keiran Foran, Shaun Johnson and Benji Marshall have formed the half-back partnerships and I don't think NZ have hardly won a test in 3 years - outside Wales and Samoa.

 

I think that Widdop, Chase and Sinfield will be used as half-backs during the tournament. Ideally I would like Widdop and Sinfield with Chase/Burrow on the bench. Sinfield has his faults but he is a very experienced big game player. I would like to see Brough near the squad but it isn't going to happen so we need to move on.

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Not in the last few years he hasn't

And neither has Myler outplayed him.

The wire pack has bossed the giants pack though, so I can see how you get confused ;)

Ah right so Brough doesn't play well behind a beaten pack, no half back can maybe that's one of the reason England can't beat Australia?

Doesn't matter who's at 6 not even Brough iif the pack are getting battered

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11 pages of other stuff that you can leave if you like but don't presume to choose for everyone else, as always with a forum you are free to ignore a thread if you like.

Replying to ant!!!

I did choose to ignore ypu. Hth

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I did choose to ignore ypu. Hth

Evidently not!

:-)

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For such an amazing captain and decision maker, I wonder why he took a settler on the fourth tackle in enemy territory putting him out of the game on the fifth for the kick, and why he chose that daft kick on half time.

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Not Sinny's best week, but we need a kicker who can perform under extreme pressure and to my mind there's a queue of one on that score. Though I wouldn't be upset to see Brough in the tactical kicking role. My recollection is that only rarely has Sinny been given his Leeds role for England/GB and has performed pretty tidily when he has. He's no Tony Myler, but if you put the right players around him, he can do an excellent job.

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Brough was outstanding for Huddersfield today while Sinfield was horrible for Leeds

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All the players in contention for the England halfback role were good this weekend

Apart from one, who was terrible. Again.

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Sinfield was horrible for Leeds? Was I watching a totally different game?

Seriously, take out his stupid kick on half time and he had a very good game yesterday. He created the space that put Hardaker through for his own try and looked as good as he has in weeks. He was moving forward with the ball instead of just catching and passing and it gave Wigan problems on numerous occasions.

Of course though, non Leeds fans will just remember the kick on HT and that will cloud their judgement. Anyone who was in the ground though yesterday could see how good and influential he was for Leeds though.

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Sinfield was horrible for Leeds? Was I watching a totally different game?

Seriously, take out his stupid kick on half time and he had a very good game yesterday. He created the space that put Hardaker through for his own try and looked as good as he has in weeks. He was moving forward with the ball instead of just catching and passing and it gave Wigan problems on numerous occasions.

Of course though, non Leeds fans will just remember the kick on HT and that will cloud their judgement. Anyone who was in the ground though yesterday could see how good and influential he was for Leeds though.

 

Clearly you were watching the same game but with your blue and amber glasses on.  Time and time again Wigan used Sinfield as a spot player for easy yards and because he gets so fatigued.  

 

You can't be serious that he created the space for Hardaker, he just passed a run of the mill straight ball to a player running from deep at pace who ran at a gap.  There was nothing other than basic handling involved, no different shape or line was required from the passer.  It could as easily have been passed to him by a prop forward than Sinfield. He took the try very well I thought, for someone of such limited pace to get over the line was good skill, but therein lies a problem, as an international half back he needs to be able to pretty much score from any broken play and he just can't cut it.

 

No mention of his choice of play on the fourth tackle, no real mention of his relatively poor kicking game yesterday, and strangely his goal kicking suffered too.

 

He looks to have gone on too long I'm afraid.

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It's still beyond me why Brough isn't in the squad, he is the best half back in SL by some distance at the minute.

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