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What happend today we should be beaten teams around us at home like

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just didn't play well. intensity was poor defence was poor and a non existent kicking game.

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Do we need some different coaching ideas and a change of direction - i.e. Appoint someone with chanpionship experience like steve mccormack? not necessarily a replacement but an enhancement in short term?

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Do we need some different coaching ideas and a change of direction - i.e. Appoint someone with chanpionship experience like steve mccormack? not necessarily a replacement but an enhancement in short term?

no

the coaches are doing allright. we need a kicking coach and someone to be a bit clever on the pitch and lead a bit more like cooke did today

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I hope we're in the championship come the seasons end , then I think it's time to look at someone who can take us on to the next level. Just my opinion , everything has a shelf life . We need some fresh ideas .

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I am not calling for replacement of current coaches who have done an excellent job - but someone to help out short term with a talented bunch of players - the best we have had in years.

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I hope we're in the championship come the seasons end , then I think it's time to look at someone who can take us on to the next level. Just my opinion , everything has a shelf life .

no need to panic over one loss that should have been a win. if we had played well and lost it would have been bad but we sort of didn't deserve to win today. its over we move on. not stopping in this league is unthinkable. we will improve we are better than that. town blue and town fan 10 i suspect you are the latest haven fans on here under cover

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Understood , but no one has to be sacked really .Just bringing a fresh brain in as head coach whos done it at this level to give new ideas and fresh impetus ? Just an idea as things seem to be a bit stale in what's said and what happens week in week out . If this new structure comes in its gonna be very competitive next year .

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Understood , but no one needs to be sacked . Just bringing a fresh brain in to oversee the coaches and work with them as head coach to give new ideas and fresh impetus ? Just an idea as things seem to be a bit stale in what's said and what happens week in week out

i know what you mean but that would show a lack of confidence in the current coaches. when we play well and are up for it we are fine we just need to be a bit more clever and adopt a better kicking game

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Town 4 me - brought up a stones throw from dp and bp and followed town and reds for 50 years. just giving an opinion.

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Town 4 me - brought up a stones throw from dp and bp and followed town and reds for 50 years. just giving an opinion.

ok.

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ive spoke to quite a lot of fans and theres a heck of a lot who think this will be charlo and oggys last season regardless but they have done a great job with us, look where we were when they took over, rotting at the bottom of championship 1. ive got to admit if someone like cresta threw his hat into the ring then it should be considered. game planning is massive when your not the top gifted team in the league and barging down the middle isnt good enough anymore.

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Someone like who ?

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ive spoke to quite a lot of fans and theres a heck of a lot who think this will be charlo and oggys last season regardless but they have done a great job with us, look where we were when they took over, rotting at the bottom of championship 1. ive got to admit if someone like cresta threw his hat into the ring then it should be considered. game planning is massive when your not the top gifted team in the league and barging down the middle isnt good enough anymore.

this isn't the time for this conversation. i bet BKM is copy and pasting this.

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this isn't the time for this conversation. i bet BKM is copy and pasting this.

in no way am i saying they should leave the club at all, but if we could bring in a experienced attacking coach to help out, maybe even on a part time basis then that would be fantastic. both our coaches bring so much to our side but we have always struggled in getting the ball wide and quickly and getting our backs into the game. maybe even if betts could give them so pointers then that could help out.

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Someone like who ?

crarey sorry. i remember him helping out with a session once and its possibly something we could look into for maybe a couple of sessions a month. just fresh ideas to help out charlo and oggy.

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Yes . Great listen on the radio . Definitely good shout . He has a good amateurs job but if you don't ask ... I think it is a valid discussion , as most things are if reasoned and well thought out .A Crarey or a McCormack or someone with good connections and a pedigree of achievement at this level and good plans would be my head coach next year to oversee us . Next year could be cutthroat if the new structures come about

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Yes . Great listen on the radio . Definitely good shout . He has a good amateurs job but if you don't ask ... I think it is a valid discussion , as most things are if reasoned and well thought out .

exactly, i for one dont want charlo and oggy to leave but getting someone to help is never a bad idea and im sure they have a good relationship with paul working with him for cumbria and a lot of the players will know him.

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We can only judge the coaches at the end of the season but there is improvements in lots of our players and maybe some fresh impetus to add to the existing coaching staff would help achieve that

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The coaches have a little say in it but if u players are not on form what can you do not very much to be fair to them they have been very very good coaches

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Think you will find that Craig Barker does nearly all the coaching at derwent park ?

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Think you will find that Craig Barker does nearly all the coaching at derwent park ?

If that's the case Abu what's the point of having two head coaches??

I don't think anything has gone wrong, we are in a scrap for survival in this league and while we think we should be winning these games the opposition will target them as winnable games too. A bit of better game management 3 points would have been in the bag and nobody would be over reacting. On our last play we are in their 20 and we don't kick the ball dead. They then make yards off the return and get a repeat set and then score on the hooter to win the game. If the ball goes dead we kill as much time as possible, set our defence and the game is ours. Just a stupid play and the injuries IMO was the difference between the teams. Having said that if Forber had kicked at goal as well as Sanderson it would have been at least a draw, also our line speed was poor and we allowed Cooke to play in space yet again. They ran the same diagonal play over and over and it caused us all sorts of problems.

But we have lots of injuries and miss the players who are out and losing Hulme yesterday caused problems with only forwards on the bench.

I'm sure the lads will sort it out for Thursday.

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How long did Hulme and Lawton play?Hope Hulme is ok as Ashame if injured.I agree about Lawton he needs more aggression but I hope after time will develop this attribute.

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The shape of the team was all wrong , some by choice and some bad luck.

 

Forber played well last week but all his deficiencies were shown up yesterday, Lupton at 13 didn't work cos he's our most creative player but wasn't in the game at all and with Connor and Morris out we had Hulme in who got injured in the first 5 minutes and we've seen before that great player that Olstrum is no way is he a centre, it's a specialist position especially in defence.

 

Cooke did us again, a couple of things he does every time makes the difference.

 

 

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How long did Hulme and Lawton play?Hope Hulme is ok as Ashame if injured.I agree about Lawton he needs more aggression but I hope after time will develop this attribute.

hulme got injured very early and looked a bad one ankle ligaments i heard. lawton played most of the game and got a good try through good support play finishing a move off

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