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The impacts of the benefits "reform" implemented by the coalition

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These poloticicians don't have a clue what to do. All they talk about is winning the next election rather than what they'll do if they win. Seems to me decisions are made outside of politics for the benefit of those making them and no matter the party that gets in we'll still head in the same direction we are now, nothing will change bar the colour of a tie.

 

I'm unconvinced that anything will change for the better, no matter who gets elected. I really do despair when you see failures in the former FSA being offered key positions in the banking sector. As for the MP caught on camera saying he only charges £1,000 a day to raise question in parliament, it shows how far some are out of touch. 

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It has to be said that the changes to benefits (in principle, maybe not the implementation) is a very popular move.  Labour support these changes because they see the same polling data.  They are also scared of being called soft and know that when (almost certain) get in power at next election that they will have to do the same.

 

Perhaps they wouldn't be so popular if the government's using false statistics to prove its case was given more publicity:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/may/31/ministers-misuse-statistics-resign?INTCMP=SRCH

 

"We often hear politicians quoting numbers, but what do they mean? In March, a Conservative party press release, faithfully reported in the Sunday Telegraph, claimed "nearly a million people" had come off incapacity benefit rather than face new medical tests"

 

"But the big number was – there is no other word for it – a lie. Dilnot, now responsible for protecting the integrity of official statistics, exposed it as a lie this week, albeit using mild Whitehall language in letters to Shapps and Iain Duncan Smith, the work and pensions secretary"

 

Unfortunately this news was not given the prominence that the original news got.

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We have a party, it needs a leader and a good smattering of sensible followers.

 

Perhaps he should as people where they want to go then he could lead them there ;)

I don't reckon Milliband is that bad. I think he'd make an excellent PM - certainly better than the one we've currently got (I reckon Balls would make a better one)  But he has the most thankless task in politics  Leader of the Opposition.  Say what you like about Brown, Blair, Major, Thatcher, at least they had the balls to turn up every week for a grilling by the current opposiltion leader.  This one takes every opportunity to duck PMQ's.  He's only attended one in the last 12.  Presumably he felt Milliband was getting the upper hand and decided to let things cool off a bit. It's Millband's only chance in Parliament to raise his profile and Cameron is denying him that chance by using any manoeuvre he can dream up to avoid the confrontation.

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You're too gullible, CKN, by far.   :mellow:

 

In the complete absence of any Parliamentary opposition whatsoever, surely the warning bells must ring when the Guardian, - the star of the tax-avoiding GNM Group, The Dependent,  Oxfam - who actually do such a good job in so many areas-  and the proselytizing Trussel Trust, who are vigorously promoting food banks as well as doing good, get together to fill the void. It is clearly in their own interests to paint such a miserable picture.

 

 

Before slagging off the Guardian John, perhaps you should look at the tax affairs of the Torygraph owning Barclay Brothers. 

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Before slagging off the Guardian John, perhaps you should look at the tax affairs of the Torygraph owning Barclay Brothers. 

 

You are making a valid point, but we should perhaps look at public perception here. We would expect nothing else of the Telegraph owners. But the Guardian is widely perceived to represent a liberal, left-leaning readership, so their tax affairs, though perfectly understandable (not necessarily defensible) from a business point of view, do create something of a paradox in the mind of the public. IMO.

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You are making a valid point, but we should perhaps look at public perception here. We would expect nothing else of the Telegraph owners. But the Guardian is widely perceived to represent a liberal, left-leaning readership, so their tax affairs, though perfectly understandable (not necessarily defensible) from a business point of view, do create something of a paradox in the mind of the public. IMO.

Their stance politically is a business stance, it is where a hole in the market is to take an advantage of.

 

Its no different M&S still projecting they are 'Made in Britain" when in reality they are made in third world sweat shops.

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Saw a truly awful sight yesterday, a collection trolley in morrisons for a food bank. I now and again i donate dog food to the dogs trust.

If anybody thinks that this government are a just and progressive one just think about this for a moment.

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Perhaps they wouldn't be so popular if the government's using false statistics to prove its case was given more publicity:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/may/31/ministers-misuse-statistics-resign?INTCMP=SRCH

 

"We often hear politicians quoting numbers, but what do they mean? In March, a Conservative party press release, faithfully reported in the Sunday Telegraph, claimed "nearly a million people" had come off incapacity benefit rather than face new medical tests"

 

"But the big number was – there is no other word for it – a lie. Dilnot, now responsible for protecting the integrity of official statistics, exposed it as a lie this week, albeit using mild Whitehall language in letters to Shapps and Iain Duncan Smith, the work and pensions secretary"

 

Unfortunately this news was not given the prominence that the original news got.

 

Except that it's been popular before the tories and dodgy stats.  It's why Labour brought in ATOS in the first place.

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Except that it's been popular before the tories and dodgy stats.  It's why Labour brought in ATOS in the first place.

Fiddling the figures has been a government activity for years, but not on the scale this lot seem to be doing it.  And lyng to Parliament used to be a resigning matter, Cameron and his mates seem to do it routinely and get away with it.

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