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Badger Cull starts on Saturday

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we cant let these creatures or any other evil thing created by mother nature stand in the way of the human race in its bovver boots, kicking the world in to submission, after all we (humans) do own the planet, "cut down that tree" I cant get my range rover past it!

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Humans spread measals, maybe we should start shooting all the kids who haven't had the MMR vaccine.

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By and large, townies should accept that they don't understand the country and should stay out of rural concerns.

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we cant let these creatures or any other evil thing created by mother nature stand in the way of the human race in its bovver boots, kicking the world in to submission, after all we (humans) do own the planet, "cut down that tree" I cant get my range rover past it!

 

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By and large, townies should accept that they don't understand the country and should stay out of rural concerns.

 

Yes best to let the farmers kill everything they want, use god knows what pesticides, rip up all the hedges, feed the livestock as many antibiotics as they can.... farmers know best....

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According to the BBC,  Long term, an affordable vaccine is the way forward. But, the lesson from the Republic of Ireland is that a badger cull, along with other measures, can help control the disease until then.

 

see http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-22731629

 

Not sure snaring will go down too well.

 

You need to kill over 90% of badgers to get a 10% reduction in TB.

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Yes best to let the farmers kill everything they want, use god knows what pesticides, rip up all the hedges, feed the livestock as many antibiotics as they can.... farmers know best....

Well as long as they don't complain about us townies joining our towns together to go about our trade by driving more motorways and railway lines across their land I'm for it.

 

Isn't it the townies who came up with the vaccines etc. to protect their herds from other diseases? what dow we do if we find out that humans spread a disease to cattle, do we cull the humans.

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The key question is surely whether badger tastes as good as horse.

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By and large, townies should accept that they don't understand the country and should stay out of rural concerns.

As someone living in a very rural part of the world, b0ll0cks to that. This is yet another example of poor policy made without a holistic view of the environment. Badgers do not need to be culled, farmers need to look after their herds better, same as foot & mouth.

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I knocked a badger over once on the A64 (complete accident). It was pretty scary, it went with a right crunch, they must be fairly substantial beasts.

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Don't badgers eat creatures that are pests to arable crops? Has anyone really thought through the ecological consequences? Or are cattle farmers once again showing what greedy selfish rich bastards they are (again!)?

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Don't badgers eat creatures that are pests to arable crops? Has anyone really thought through the ecological consequences? Or are cattle farmers once again showing what greedy selfish rich bastards they are (again!)?

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Wolford6, on 01 Jun 2013 - 02:02, said:

By and large, townies should accept that they don't understand the country and should stay out of rural concerns.

That way lies madness - and bestiality!

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Don't badgers eat creatures that are pests to arable crops? Has anyone really thought through the ecological consequences? Or are cattle farmers once again showing what greedy selfish rich bastards they are (again!)?

 

 

They primarily eat worms.

 

Cattle-TB in Ireland is falling consistently as the cull progresses (graph shown on BBC News last week)

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I knocked a badger over once on the A64 (complete accident). It was pretty scary, it went with a right crunch, they must be fairly substantial beasts.

 

I've never seen a live one. I saw a dead one by the side of the road in Lincolnshire and another near my daughter's in Wiltshire.  Is it only badgers who carry TB?  I suppose the proof of the pudding will be in the eating - if TB in cattle falls in the trial areas then they'll go ahead with a full scale cull.  But given this government's fast and loose attittude to statistics, and the minister being well known as one of the right wing (swivel eyed?) loonies in the cabinet, will we be able to believe the "proof?"  I reckon badgers are in for a rough time.   

Could the fox hounds be taught to chase badgers perhaps - kill two birds with one stone? ;)

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I say cull any living creature who lives north of the watford gap:)))))

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Interesting theory, but there's next to nobody south of Watford who's man enough to do it.

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I've never seen a live one. I saw a dead one by the side of the road in Lincolnshire and another near my daughter's in Wiltshire.  Is it only badgers who carry TB?  I suppose the proof of the pudding will be in the eating - if TB in cattle falls in the trial areas then they'll go ahead with a full scale cull.  But given this government's fast and loose attittude to statistics, and the minister being well known as one of the right wing (swivel eyed?) loonies in the cabinet, will we be able to believe the "proof?"  I reckon badgers are in for a rough time.   

Could the fox hounds be taught to chase badgers perhaps - kill two birds with one stone? ;)

 

plenty of dead badgers here in Lincs. they seem to be suicidal, hurling themselves in front of cars and trucks at night. There are clearly issues with the effectiveness of culling, hence the pilot schemes - which themselves have issues. Nevertheless , the evidence from Ireland points to probable success, as has already been pointed out. There is no right answer, not until an effective vaccine comes along.

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It's easy to vaccinate a farm animal; they stand and accept it.

 

It will be the very devil to catch and inoculate wild badgers.

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It's easy to vaccinate a farm animal; they stand and accept it.

 

It will be the very devil to catch and inoculate wild badgers.

 

I thought the vaccine under development for badgers was for oral ingestion and they would use bait laced with said vaccine to carry out the inoculation.

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Badgers? We don't need no steenking badgers!

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I agree with Wolford that unless you have a good knowledge of rural affairs then its not good enough to be against the cull on the basis that they are perceived to be cute (which they are not) and fury. I'm undecided on whether the cull is a good idea and whether it will solve the TB problem. There is evidence on both sides of the argument to support their respective claims.

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