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Barrow v Sheffield

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Excellent unbiased report as usual Nigel. As for Kevin I'm amazed he had never met you before.

Oh and Nigel thanks for getting Andy Hendersons testamonial book for me. Nice to meet Andy again even if he did score Eagles final try.

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It was good to meet up with Lee, Michael A, Southsider, etc etc and I was, as usual trying to be balanced and un-biased. If a team deserves criticism I try to be constructive, and that includes whoever I may be supporting, if they deserve praise, similarly and having been down the referee pathway, although now a few years back I will gladly praise, if possible.

 

Far too often some spectators go to matches to ref bait instead of taking into account 26 players giving, normally heart and soul, to putting on a display which will please the punters and show their skills, earn their match pay and not pussy foot around, like soccer players (premier division standard), if they get tackled rather harder than normal. Yes there are times when we all have a reason to moan and the comments about the ref going home on the opponents bus just beggar belief as 99% of the time those fans have been wearing their rose tinted specs and do not see the favours or faults relating to their own team.

 

My comment to some yesterday may be extreme perhaps but compared with Joe Cobb, give me Gareth Hewer, Jamie Leahy etc any day.... even so, I could stretch to J Childs.....................

 

Wearing an Eagles hat....Raiders put in a display to be proud of yesterday and I can't see for the life of me why they are bottom of the league. After the poor display in the Northern Rail Cup, where their hearts were not in it and I hope Darren gave them a good "just look at that rubbish" talk, the skill is their, the youth is there, but I sometime think the belief, isn't, but after yesterday, it should be. As long as there are no more injuries anyone could come a cropper, especially at home.

 

Finally, another "gripe"/comment............ the markings on the pitch were not very visible due to the great surface being too long. If where the markings were had had more grass cut from it and then marked, that would be a result. They would be more helpful to players, referee and supporters alike. A player, no names~no pack drill, said that they just did not stand out enough, in his opinion, but that he wasn't making excuses for any errors.

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For Eagleraider  -  Optical Illusion

 

I sat in the stand on sunday and was surprised with your comments with regards to the pitch marking etc as these were clearly visible for where I sat about six rows up.

 

I was passing the ground this morning and the gate was open so I popped in to have another look, the volunteer groundsman was there cutting the grass (he was about half way through) so he stopped and had a word, I told him why I was having a look around, he said stand here and look across from the stand to the Raider Bar and tell me what you can see, all the lines, 10 20 30 etc were clearly visible, we then went across to the Raiders Bar side turned around and looked towards the main stand and you could hardly see any of the markings. The groundsman said if the sun is behind you there is no problem seeing them, if your looking towards the sun from the Raiders Bar side you can't see them very well, we then went to look where he had cut today and you could still see the markings if you stood with your back to the stand but not from the Raiders Bar side, he said there was nothing he could do to stop the sun from shining.

 

With regards to the length of the grass, he left it slightly longer to leave a cushion for both teams as the ground was dry and hard and that you get more dew on longer grass (oh for those February days playing Doncaster on a paddy field) and at this  moment in time we have more pressing things to pay for than a water meter.

 

 

Perhaps the player who made the comment was looking into the sun most of the game and that could be his excuse, but lets all remember that the pitch is inspected by the match commissioner prior to the start of the game and he had no problems.

 

If you have any questions with regards to the pitch just ask the groundsman like I did, he will explain how, why, and when, he is very approachable.

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This was the third match that I have read poor comments about the referee J Cobb.    Haven fans gave a poor report about him at their match with London Skolars and Town v Doncaster was the same from both sets of fans.   I wonder exactly what the Match Commissioners report back on the referees performance for each match or is it just a case of ignoring these poor efforts.

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believe me Keith he was awful on sunday

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 due to the great surface being too long. If where the markings were had had more grass cut from it and then marked, that would be a result. They would be more helpful to players, referee and supporters alike.

FAO..Deep................. I said , as QUOTED ABOVE, it was a great pitch, and in the previous posting about the game I also said

That is the best pitch we have played on all season and although a little hard was in great condition.

 so please read things carefully before criticising and I only suggested that the area where the lines were needed cropping a little more and if you are sat 6 seats higher than the ground then visibility can be better for you there, than 5-6 ft from the ground and paying attention the play approaching and pick out line markings more or less from the corner of your eye. I do not see why you had to bold the word volunteer as the majority people at most clubs are precisely that.

 

Finally his penalty count was 12 Sheffield 13 Doncaster earlier this season, which was slightly less than the Barrow 9 Sheffield 8.......... Only Julian King(2002) and Gareth Hewer (32 penalties-2003) and Jamie Leahy (27- 2009) have awarded more than our Donny game and J Cobb (25-2013).............[sad fact for some of you!!) :sclerosis:

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Its not really the penalty count, but when a scrum is awarded to the team that kicked the ball out, then despite a blatent knock on, they are then awarded a 6 point try, I think most supporters would be annoyed.

FAO..Deep................. I said , as QUOTED ABOVE, it was a great pitch, and in the previous posting about the game I also said


 so please read things carefully before criticising and I only suggested that the area where the lines were needed cropping a little more and if you are sat 6 seats higher than the ground then visibility can be better for you there, than 5-6 ft from the ground and paying attention the play approaching and pick out line markings more or less from the corner of your eye. I do not see why you had to bold the word volunteer as the majority people at most clubs are precisely that.

 

Finally his penalty count was 12 Sheffield 13 Doncaster earlier this season, which was slightly less than the Barrow 9 Sheffield 8.......... Only Julian King(2002) and Gareth Hewer (32 penalties-2003) and Jamie Leahy (27- 2009) have awarded more than our Donny game and J Cobb (25-2013).............[sad fact for some of you!!) :sclerosis:

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Eagleraider

 

 

I was not criticising, I was only pointing out it depended on what side of the ground you were stood, as I stood, not sat on Tuesday, how much the lines do or do not stand out due to the effect of sunlight.

 

My reference to the Doncaster game in February was nothing to do with the penalty count it was because you mentioned the ground was a little hard in your report, as any Barrow fans will recall the pitch that day resembled a paddy field and by the way no one could see any lines that day because after five minutes they disappeared in the mud.

 

Good luck for the rest of the season.

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