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McNamara- I don't care what the fans think

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There speaks a true rugby league fan. I hope you'll confirm that by telling us which club you support.

 

Personally, I have considered all angles, I've listend to what the fans have to say about both McNamara as his squad selection and have to say I am more than ever supportive of him. In particular, I do like this bit:" I ask McNamara what the fans will think of his squad. "I'm not fussed. I've not given any thought to what the fans think. Why should I? Every club has fans who think their best players should be in. I have trust in these players and their consistency. It's about trust between me and the players - the fans can judge me how they want. I know none of the players that I select will let me down."

He doesn't know that though. Let's see how we feel the players have done after the Exiles game and then we can judge McNamara's squad selection.

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There speaks a true rugby league fan. I hope you'll confirm that by telling us which club you support.

 

Personally, I have considered all angles, I've listend to what the fans have to say about both McNamara as his squad selection and have to say I am more than ever supportive of him. In particular, I do like this bit:" I ask McNamara what the fans will think of his squad. "I'm not fussed. I've not given any thought to what the fans think. Why should I? Every club has fans who think their best players should be in. I have trust in these players and their consistency. It's about trust between me and the players - the fans can judge me how they want. I know none of the players that I select will let me down."

 

 

It is strange isn't it, I would have thought that's a great positive quote from a coach who has the trust of his players, McNamara's objective isn't to be popular on a fans forum, its to build the best squad and team he thinks he can to do the job in hand.

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Let's see how we feel the players have done after the Exiles game and then we can judge McNamara's squad selection.

 

Let's not, let's vilify him before they've even taken the field, that'll show him

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It's not about picking fan a or fan b's favourite player

It's about his whole style, management and strategy - and the fact he is increasingly looking like he is unmoving in the face of facts

It's not just about Brough being left out but the likes of Lunt and others in great LONG TERM form while including players clearly out of form and previously shown up to be sub par in any case (and not just Sinfield)

We have a set of forwards equal to any, them most exciting three quarters and fullback I can remember and potentially some halfbacks that can lift to at least compete with the Aussies

But it instantly falls down when players are given no incentive to perform - if they aren't "in" it's irrelevant how good they play, if they are "in" then it doesn't matter how poor they play, they'll not be dropped.

That's a recipe for failure at any level.

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It's not just about Brough being left out but the likes of Lunt and others in great LONG TERM form

 

 

Is that your version of long term or Omega's? ;-)

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It is strange isn't it, I would have thought that's a great positive quote from a coach who has the trust of his players, McNamara's objective isn't to be popular on a fans forum, its to build the best squad and team he thinks he can to do the job in hand.

Normally I'd agree, with a coach with a winning track record. NacNamara doesn't have that.

So it sounds more like the general from Blackadder "yes I know this plan has failed every other time but this time it'll work because they'll never expect us to try it again"

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Normally I'd agree, with a coach with a winning track record. NacNamara doesn't have that.

 

 

Theres not many England coaches around with that at international level though is there.

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One fact is certain,all the "best" coaches are to be found on internet forums.

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What a buffoon - I still cant understand how he got the job in the first place.

I like the bit about selecting on "long term form" in other words, some of the players selected arent playing well enough, but they have done in the past. Pathetic.

Taxi for McNarmara after another failure in the world cup.

 

 

John Kear for England eh?

 

 

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Is that your version of long term or Omega's? ;-)

Neither, MacNamara's

But just to put some clarification there for you:

Lunt was in excellent form all last season, including going to a cup final and a grand final.

This season he is arguable the form hooker of the competition, especially since the incumbent hasn't played in nearly 3 months

Yet he isn't even in the train on squad

Explain.

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Neither, MacNamara's

But just to put some clarification there for you:

Lunt was in excellent form all last season, including going to a cup final and a grand final.

This season he is arguable the form hooker of the competition, especially since the incumbent hasn't played in nearly 3 months

Yet he isn't even in the train on squad

Explain.

 

 

Well I would have had Lunt in the squad, but I can only presume McNamara sees Roby as his starting hooker come the world cup so wants hime to be there in the one and only warm up match he has. It's not as if Roby is a bad player is it, he is one of the few players that actually has played well in internationals, it all goes back to McNamara building a team environment with some familiarity in key positions.

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So why not even in the squad?

Oh and again it belies the statement if form players getting in - he's in form, has been for some time

Good as Roby is he'll have had two games for club before the Exiles match. Why not play Lunt so there are more practiced and settled options

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So why not even in the squad?

 

 

I dunno you'd have to ask him, I can't answer that for you.

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Why should he listen to the fans? ]

Because they're the people that pay the money to see the team that he coaches, which keeps him in a job?

Listening to the fans doesn't mean doing what they say. It's just showing some respect for their opinions. I think this is some bloody awful PR and only widens the gap between the national side and many of its disillusioned fans.

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Why ask then?

For your benefit, since you seem oblivious to MacNamaras shortcomings as coach

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Because they're the people that pay the money to see the team that he coaches, which keeps him in a job?

Listening to the fans doesn't mean doing what they say. It's just showing some respect for their opinions. I think this is some bloody awful PR and only widens the gap between the national side and many of its disillusioned fans.

 

 

So you would prefer him to come out with some PR guff about respecting the fans opinions just to appease you? I'd prefer him to be getting on with his job to be honest. Why are you disillusioned, they haven't played a game yet this year. Lets face it it really doesn't matter what he says, or who he picked, some people will always find fault and moan, respect is a two way thing, if by any strange chance he's read any of the rubbish spouted about him on here I'm not surprised he doesn't care what the fans think.

 

Its only bloody awful PR if your easily outraged isnt' it.

 

Do you think players care about what the fans think? 

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james roby is a great player who would do well in the nrl as well as super league, but to blunt this season (and last) shaun lunt is better, so is danny houghton. and as regards chase, what message does that send out to our young half backs like stefan ratchford, joe mellor, richie myler and the likes when they are constantly overlooked for a player who's team finished second bottom on points difference last year and are once again in the wooden spoon battle this season, chase has flashes of brilliance but is generally a one trick pony who goes missing when the going gets tough, which is extremely often.

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For your benefit, since you seem oblivious to MacNamaras shortcomings as coach

 

 

I'm not oblivious to anything, just not a knee jerker like a lot of people on here.

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It is strange isn't it, I would have thought that's a great positive quote from a coach who has the trust of his players, McNamara's objective isn't to be popular on a fans forum, its to build the best squad and team he thinks he can to do the job in hand.

 

I agree entirely. However, there do seem to be a number of posters on here who have an almost pathological dislike of McNamara. Is there maybe something in his past that we need reminding of?  It seems to me that he and his team are more qualified and more experienced in assessing players form than most. and after all, a whole raft of previous managers coaches etc have not exactly covered themselves with the glory of international success. 

 

It is true though , that the fans pay his wages. However they don't pay much of his wages given the level of attendances at Internationals in the UK. In any case, I don't recall "team selection by popularity poll" being in the Operational Rules.

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Like I said

If it came from a coach with any kind of success behind him, it would be fine

But it's come from a coach with a track record of nothing but failure

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the facts are that as a club coach mcbanana was poor and now as an international coach he is poor. my vote would go to brian mcdermott...........

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