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brian mcdermott, by far the best english coach and his record at leeds is fantastic.

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John Kear, Great record in cups, so he can get teams up for one off games.

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Shaun Wane or Daryl Powell. Both have done excellent jobs at Wigan and Featherstone with the latter already showing signs of a revival at Castleford.

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None of these coaches would accept the job except maybe Kear unless the RFL changes its policy on it being a full time position.

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Shaun Wane. Half the future England team looks like it's gonna be from Wigan anyway.

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Francis Cummins. A highly rated coach who took us to third and then has seen us on a terrible run, and a key player wants to leave.

 

Well, it was good enough in 2010... ;)

 

Who's the assistant coach? Shouldn't rule him out either. I'd probably go for Shaun Wane too, although not if he's in New Zealand.

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Shaun Edwards and Andy Farrell

 

Given that Edwards and Panface have held precisely zero rugby league head coach positions, and have been busy feathering their nests in the lazy, slow and quite frankly boring sport of rugby union I fail to see why anyone would want this pair in the top job(s).

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Steve McNamara. Just to be clear, for having won the world cup.

 

That would be the ideal.

 

Shaun Wane for me.

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Every coach at Leeds in the last 13 years has been fantastic.Graham Murray was the Rhinos last hands on coach.

brian mcdermott, by far the best english coach and his record at leeds is fantastic.

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If after the world cup u cud pick the new england coach who wud b ur choice and why?

 

I'd vote for "no change"

 

Its not the coach, its the players. Since the 1970s, no matter who is coach, the results have always been the same. Just not enough players with enough skills.

 

As for part time v full time; Part time coach, part time results.

 

We are so far behind in my opinion that nothing less than a revolution is required.. Thus  a full time coach is essential, but only associated with a full time approach to the International game by the RFL, the clubs, the players and the fans.

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Ralph Rimmer on the basis that he couldn't do a worse job than the one he's got now,with Woody as his sponge man!

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Paul Anderson for me,the lads been a revalation.I'll hold my hands up and say I didn't think he could handle it but he's took to it like a duck t water.

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In my view and experience, it's naive to think changing the coach will make any difference. How many  coaches have we had since 1970?  How many series have we won since 1970? H w many time have we played Aus? How many times have we won?

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In my view and experience, it's naive to think changing the coach will make any difference. How many  coaches have we had since 1970?  How many series have we won since 1970? H w many time have we played Aus? How many times have we won?

We havn't always been ###### JohnM!

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Paul Anderson for me,the lads been a revalation.I'll hold my hands up and say I didn't think he could handle it but he's took to it like a duck t water.

Bloody big duck.

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Bloody big duck.

(I'm glad I didn't misspell the last word)

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Given that Edwards and Panface have held precisely zero rugby league head coach positions, and have been busy feathering their nests in the lazy, slow and quite frankly boring sport of rugby union I fail to see why anyone would want this pair in the top job(s).

Are you expecting the National coach to get his slalom poles and cones out and start teaching the players how to pass, run lines and make tackles? National coaches are all about man management (well the really good ones are) creating an environment that's conducive to a winning culture and motivating their players, if there's any actual coaching to do they delegate that to trusted assistants.

You're not seriously suggesting that Farrell and Edwards aren't qualified to Manage a top RL team are you, you're not so blinkered as to beleive that just because theyve plied there trade in RU that neither of them haven't kept up to speed with modern RL tactics and methods.

Both are massively well respected and would command the attention of any RL player.

Let's face it they'd be a huge step up from the dross we've had in recent years and their time away from RL just might mean they bring something different to our National team.

Only the monumentally stupid would rule them out as an option.

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Are you expecting the National coach to get his slalom poles and cones out and start teaching the players how to pass, run lines and make tackles? National coaches are all about man management (well the really good ones are) creating an environment that's conducive to a winning culture and motivating their players, if there's any actual coaching to do they delegate that to trusted assistants.

You're not seriously suggesting that Farrell and Edwards aren't qualified to Manage a top RL team are you, you're not so blinkered as to beleive that just because theyve plied there trade in RU that neither of them haven't kept up to speed with modern RL tactics and methods.

Only the monumentally stupid would rule them out as an option.

 

They've not been in and around the game in a club environment for over a decade, they've been holding down fulltime jobs elsewhere.  There's no way that they are up to speed with tactics, methods and the like.  National coaches still choose the plays and dictate the game plans, the tactics, and the specific target spot players for each game, and highlight the stregnths and weaknesses of the opposition, if you think it's all about man management then I think you're way off.

 

I must be monumentally stupid.

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They've not been in and around the game in a club environment for over a decade, they've been holding down fulltime jobs elsewhere.  There's no way that they are up to speed with tactics, methods and the like.  National coaches still choose the plays and dictate the game plans, the tactics, and the specific target spot players for each game, and highlight the stregnths and weaknesses of the opposition, if you think it's all about man management then I think you're way off.

 

I must be monumentally stupid.

If you're saying that its not even worth considering or that it is a definite non startter then stupid you must be!

I see no reason why they couldn't be up to speed, they don't need to be in a club environment every day to be up to speed but it would'nt suprise me if they have been to a few RL clubs to observe training methods. This is a National team we're talking about and they would be the head of a team of coaches. They've both been heavily involved in some of the most professionally run International tournaments and training camps in sport and will know a thing or two about merging a group into an effective team.

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If you're saying that its not even worth considering or that it is a definite non startter then stupid you must be!

I see no reason why they couldn't be up to speed, they don't need to be in a club environment every day to be up to speed but it would'nt suprise me if they have been to a few RL clubs to observe training methods. This is a National team we're talking about and they would be the head of a team of coaches. They've both been heavily involved in some of the most professionally run International tournaments and training camps in sport and will know a thing or two about merging a group into an effective team.

 

I've considered it, they're not worth considering.

 

They know so much about team management that their players get smashed and drive golf buggies up the motorway, or jump off ferries into harbours.

 

We don't have a vast team of coaches for the national side, we need somebody that knows modern RL inside out.  Panface and Edwards aren't even close.

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I've considered it, they're not worth considering.

 

They know so much about team management that their players get smashed and drive golf buggies up the motorway, or jump off ferries into harbours.

 

We don't have a vast team of coaches for the national side, we need somebody that knows modern RL inside out.  Panface and Edwards aren't even close.

How very droll

Don't think Edwards or Farrell were involved in any of those incidents, they certainly weren't the Head Coaches, however the point still stands the Lions (RU) and the six nation camps are light years ahead of RL international camps and they do it far more often.

Well maybe we should have a team (your word was vast not mine) of coaches and do the thing properly for a change. You mean In your opinion with your limited knowledge of the actual facts they're mot even close.

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