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When you team is busted with injuries as said in the previous post it is going to be hard. Keep your chins up and support your club. Just remember most of you will of been supporting Barrow for years make sure you still are when players / coaches and staff have left The club belongs to you not them don't let it fail by not turning up stick together you don't know what's round the corner in RL

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champ 1 looks a nightmare on paper and probably on the motorways. teams in that league now example Oldham and Rochdale have hour and half less travel to games than we will have if we go down.

think rl will have to restructure the league formats as this must be killing clubs in that league. how they must be struggling never mind us.

also talking of missing players from sunday, how many are going to stay at the club with work commitments and training if they have mega days out to the likes of London, hemel and south wales?

but as previous posts have said 3 months is a long time in rugby league and you never know with the rfl what they will come up with next.

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In 2015 championship one is to be split into two regional conference leagues below super leagues 1 & 2

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Raiders do not need a new coach............ Even some of the clubs with dual-reg players are saying it doesn't work. The "injury" crisis is one which hits most clubs at some stage and sometimes longer than others and when you get the cry of get more players in, as Michael Ashton quite rightly says, where is the money coming from? You can only work with a budget and in the area of paying of debts and having fans walking away saying the team is rubbish, is that what the directors or players want to hear............no it isn't. So players were falling off tackles, they dropped passes etc etc. Every team suffers this and generally gets over it If morale is down, but being slagged off time and time again does not help things at all.

To repeat what I have said on many ocassions..............success is built on continuity. Your directors are trying so hard to sort finances out, Darren is trying hard to build a continuity squad with back up from Acky, so the fans on this forum need to try to stop the bleed of walkers from games and get behind the lads on the park. The vocal support affects the opposition and as you know, the Raiders raise their game. If you go quiet in the game, the players switch off, shout, cheer make some noise and give them something to play for (pride for playing for the town, doing the best they can etc). If its quiet, why should they bother?

 

Featherstone , until we started beating them(!!), were and still are a formidable team, and few teams are successful against  them. The game against Sheffield was the 4th in 10 days for Eagles and Raiders made the most of it will a mind set of "we can possibly win"...........against Rovers I believe it was possibly a little bit of over confidence and then not getting encouragement from the speccies. (I may well be wrong, but that is a theory) Don't blame the ref. He is watching 26 players  (or 4 or 5 closely) and has to make immediate decisions. I will criticise refs if necessary (as I did concerning J Cobb) but the ref does not make you lose a game. He may influence some plays, but it is the players playing, not the coach or ref.

 

I am sure this will upset a few, but negativity is not the solution. With the few scores this season where the figures are rather large does not imply that missing certain forwards etc could have done anything defencively. Please just let the early walking, moaners KNOW THAT THEY SHOULD GET BEHIND THE TEAM and not underneath the team, directors et al.

 

Some need to get into their heads, the club does not have spare cash to throw at journeymen, they need to build steadily and consistently.  If relegation happens, it happens, but the club will still be in existence and can build o from their. Just because you do so well in year x, does not give  you the god given right to a constant success. Promotion sometimes breeds over confidence and ultimately a hard time when meeting criteria. This is the reality of semi-pro rugby. 

PATIENCE and time are of an essence.

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Raiders do not need a new coach............ Even some of the clubs with dual-reg players are saying it doesn't work. The "injury" crisis is one which hits most clubs at some stage and sometimes longer than others and when you get the cry of get more players in, as Michael Ashton quite rightly says, where is the money coming from? You can only work with a budget and in the area of paying of debts and having fans walking away saying the team is rubbish, is that what the directors or players want to hear............no it isn't. So players were falling off tackles, they dropped passes etc etc. Every team suffers this and generally gets over it If morale is down, but being slagged off time and time again does not help things at all.

To repeat what I have said on many ocassions..............success is built on continuity. Your directors are trying so hard to sort finances out, Darren is trying hard to build a continuity squad with back up from Acky, so the fans on this forum need to try to stop the bleed of walkers from games and get behind the lads on the park. The vocal support affects the opposition and as you know, the Raiders raise their game. If you go quiet in the game, the players switch off, shout, cheer make some noise and give them something to play for (pride for playing for the town, doing the best they can etc). If its quiet, why should they bother?

 

Featherstone , until we started beating them(!!), were and still are a formidable team, and few teams are successful against  them. The game against Sheffield was the 4th in 10 days for Eagles and Raiders made the most of it will a mind set of "we can possibly win"...........against Rovers I believe it was possibly a little bit of over confidence and then not getting encouragement from the speccies. (I may well be wrong, but that is a theory) Don't blame the ref. He is watching 26 players  (or 4 or 5 closely) and has to make immediate decisions. I will criticise refs if necessary (as I did concerning J Cobb) but the ref does not make you lose a game. He may influence some plays, but it is the players playing, not the coach or ref.

 

I am sure this will upset a few, but negativity is not the solution. With the few scores this season where the figures are rather large does not imply that missing certain forwards etc could have done anything defencively. Please just let the early walking, moaners KNOW THAT THEY SHOULD GET BEHIND THE TEAM and not underneath the team, directors et al.

 

Some need to get into their heads, the club does not have spare cash to throw at journeymen, they need to build steadily and consistently.  If relegation happens, it happens, but the club will still be in existence and can build o from their. Just because you do so well in year x, does not give  you the god given right to a constant success. Promotion sometimes breeds over confidence and ultimately a hard time when meeting criteria. This is the reality of semi-pro rugby. 

PATIENCE and time are of an essence.

Spot on.

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Raiders do not need a new coach............ Even some of the clubs with dual-reg players are saying it doesn't work. The "injury" crisis is one which hits most clubs at some stage and sometimes longer than others and when you get the cry of get more players in, as Michael Ashton quite rightly says, where is the money coming from? You can only work with a budget and in the area of paying of debts and having fans walking away saying the team is rubbish, is that what the directors or players want to hear............no it isn't. So players were falling off tackles, they dropped passes etc etc. Every team suffers this and generally gets over it If morale is down, but being slagged off time and time again does not help things at all.

To repeat what I have said on many ocassions..............success is built on continuity. Your directors are trying so hard to sort finances out, Darren is trying hard to build a continuity squad with back up from Acky, so the fans on this forum need to try to stop the bleed of walkers from games and get behind the lads on the park. The vocal support affects the opposition and as you know, the Raiders raise their game. If you go quiet in the game, the players switch off, shout, cheer make some noise and give them something to play for (pride for playing for the town, doing the best they can etc). If its quiet, why should they bother?

 

Featherstone , until we started beating them(!!), were and still are a formidable team, and few teams are successful against  them. The game against Sheffield was the 4th in 10 days for Eagles and Raiders made the most of it will a mind set of "we can possibly win"...........against Rovers I believe it was possibly a little bit of over confidence and then not getting encouragement from the speccies. (I may well be wrong, but that is a theory) Don't blame the ref. He is watching 26 players  (or 4 or 5 closely) and has to make immediate decisions. I will criticise refs if necessary (as I did concerning J Cobb) but the ref does not make you lose a game. He may influence some plays, but it is the players playing, not the coach or ref.

 

I am sure this will upset a few, but negativity is not the solution. With the few scores this season where the figures are rather large does not imply that missing certain forwards etc could have done anything defencively. Please just let the early walking, moaners KNOW THAT THEY SHOULD GET BEHIND THE TEAM and not underneath the team, directors et al.

 

Some need to get into their heads, the club does not have spare cash to throw at journeymen, they need to build steadily and consistently.  If relegation happens, it happens, but the club will still be in existence and can build o from their. Just because you do so well in year x, does not give  you the god given right to a constant success. Promotion sometimes breeds over confidence and ultimately a hard time when meeting criteria. This is the reality of semi-pro rugby. 

PATIENCE and time are of an essence.

At last,at last,someone else can see it!

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I agree Nigel except that it is the general public that make up the crowd and it is there hard earned money. If they do not feel they are getting there money's worth they are bound to spend it elsewhere. The supporters who really care about the Club  will always turn up to every game but unfortunately if performances on the park continue to deteriorate these supporters will get less and less.

When it comes to the support of my RL Club I'm an eternal optimist. I'm sure we will beat York. Everybody connected with the Club includng coaches,players directors,physios etc must feel like that. If not we might as well all pack up.

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sunday was awful. we were a joke. tackled like a poor Under 8's side.

 

our front row didnt want to know, they were shocking in defence, especially Dandy, i cant think of any other hooker with a defence as bad as his.

 

having just re-watched the game on the NWEM, the lack of team spirit is clear to see, the shoulder charge on dandy when it kicked off, just look at how many of the barrow players dont rush in or stay out of it. shocking, you get in to look out for your mate. fair play to mcgoff, he chucked one in the other scuffle at the end (was about all he did all game but at least he was there).

 

to be fair, did anyone expect us to get anything from the game on sunday? i never, but i didnt expect a performance like that from barrow. roll on next season where we might actually compete

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2012.......Fev 12...Halifax 60

Fev 40...Sheffield 60

Fev didn't fall apart..they went on to win the league;

There is no panic. You ran the best team close the other week; Things like this happen;

Don't give up and fall out of this league..us Fev fans love you;

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Like phil says hammerings at times happen. Look at us this season if we were going to lose 3 games up to now I would not of thought 2 of those teams to beat us would be York and donny. It just shows anything can happen if your not 100% on your game. Losing to us or any of the top 5 teams won't relegate you guys. You just need to beat the teams around you and I hope you guys stay up especially when you guys are doing it the right way and trying to go it alone without the joke that is the DR system. I for one will be gutted if you get relegated and a team that's in the DR agreement stays up. It will make a mockery of our sport if that isn't the case already. Good luck for the rest of the season guys and my fingers are firmly crossed for you guys to stay up.

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The RFL is paying travel costs in C1 this season for long distance games.Which probably accounts for the 2 regional conference plans for 2015.So much for widening the game.This league has been a lot better than i thought.At least we have won a few, the league is wide open and we have had the pleasure of visiting new clubs.

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It was the manner of the defeat which was hardest to watch. No fight, no intensity no attitude, it just wasn't there. I don't mind watching Barrow get beat, but when people question the teams attitude it's just unacceptable.

 

I've travelled to Fev twice over the last 3 seasons. One was the last game of the 2010 season whilst the second was on a thursday night at the beginning of the 2011 season. Both times we got thumped. 2010 scoreline was 72 - 16? Or fairly close whislt the 2011 season was a 40 - 50 point win for Fev. The first time even though we got hammered I was still happy with the sides performance. We had a game at home to Widnes in the play offs the week after (which we won 38 - 0 :) ) so fielded a weakened side. Even though there was a gulf in class our lads never stopped trying. I believe we scored right at the end of the game which showed the players never stopped trying. There was an evident gulf in class but not at one point did I question the players comittment and was happy I'd travelled to watch them.

 

The second time on the thursday night it was horrendous. We had a very good side out, full of star names and we still got hammered. There was no effort or anything it was painful. Only Catic I think went to applaud the Barrow fans who attended on a cold thursday night. The getting thumped isn't the worst part, it's the manner of the performance.

 

After 28 points to 6 Barrow just stopped playing and let Fev run riot. It reminded me the second time we went to Fev. Hammerings do happen, but a better attitude on Sunday would of helped prevented it and kept at least some Barrow fans thinking they haven't wasted 15 quid.

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Just wondering that if some SL clubs are annoucing who they have signed for next season, 

 

I cant help but think that maybe a few of our players have already got plans for next season away from Barrow.

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It was the manner of the defeat which was hardest to watch. No fight, no intensity no attitude, it just wasn't there. I don't mind watching Barrow get beat, but when people question the teams attitude it's just unacceptable.

 

 After 28 points to 6 Barrow just stopped playing and let Fev run riot.

Hammerings do happen, but a better attitude on Sunday would of helped prevented it and kept at least some Barrow fans thinking they haven't wasted 15 quid.

Could we take a leaf out of NZ Warriors book, after several defeats and some hammerings they called a mandatory club meeting where the players had to one by one stand up and tell everyone exactly what he brings to his position on the field of play and how he can benefit the team, after this soul searching they have been on fire. 

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Could we take a leaf out of NZ Warriors book, after several defeats and some hammerings they called a mandatory club meeting where the players had to one by one stand up and tell everyone exactly what he brings to his position on the field of play and how he can benefit the team, after this soul searching they have been on fire. 

 

the trouble with that mick is most of them will have all to say!!

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Since the link up between Carlisle and Barrow Raiders I have been travelling from Penrith to most home games.There have been good and bad times as most clubs go through, good teams and bad teams, but I have to say the present team must be one of the poorest. Last season with the influx of local players we did well and held our own but I am afraid this season some of the local players and some brought in are not good enough for Championship League. I am a big fan of Darren Holt from being a teenager playing at Carlisle to his good playing record at Barrow, but I am afraid some of his signings have not the class to play in the Championship League.

The forwards of the present team can hold their own against most teams but the backs are very poor.  I feel we require a full back, a half back and a center. I would put Campbell back to half back as he is wasted at full back and Harrison back to center and I am sure that would improve the team

Darren for some reason seems to be against both the D R system and loan players. I am not keen on it myself but sometimes we have to change our mind to survive .On Thursday night on Premier sport DRS was brought up. Mr Wood the Whitehaven coach was asked about this and he said he was not for DRS either. On sunday at the Workington  v Whitehaven game both teams fielded  three DRS players. The commentator at the end of the game put the win down to the quality of Whitehaven DRS players, It made a bit of a mockery of Mr Wood commentating his disapproval of DRS players.

There are only three teams in the Championship not using DRS or loan players. These three teams are in the top four positions and have greater depth and class than we do. We are fighting for survival, the situation is different. Poor clubs using the system will survive,we wont.

I am well aware there is not buckets of  money, but Barrow are one of the best supported teams in the league. If they had DRS or loan players and get a few wins behind them then the gates would increase and pay for the players on loan. No true fan wants to watch a game like that on Sunday ever again 

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Since the link up between Carlisle and Barrow Raiders I have been travelling from Penrith to most home games.There have been good and bad times as most clubs go through, good teams and bad teams, but I have to say the present team must be one of the poorest. Last season with the influx of local players we did well and held our own but I am afraid this season some of the local players and some brought in are not good enough for Championship League. I am a big fan of Darren Holt from being a teenager playing at Carlisle to his good playing record at Barrow, but I am afraid some of his signings have not the class to play in the Championship League.

The forwards of the present team can hold their own against most teams but the backs are very poor.  I feel we require a full back, a half back and a center. I would put Campbell back to half back as he is wasted at full back and Harrison back to center and I am sure that would improve the team

Darren for some reason seems to be against both the D R system and loan players. I am not keen on it myself but sometimes we have to change our mind to survive .On Thursday night on Premier sport DRS was brought up. Mr Wood the Whitehaven coach was asked about this and he said he was not for DRS either. On sunday at the Workington  v Whitehaven game both teams fielded  three DRS players. The commentator at the end of the game put the win down to the quality of Whitehaven DRS players, It made a bit of a mockery of Mr Wood commentating his disapproval of DRS players.

There are only three teams in the Championship not using DRS or loan players. These three teams are in the top four positions and have greater depth and class than we do. We are fighting for survival, the situation is different. Poor clubs using the system will survive,we wont.

I am well aware there is not buckets of  money, but Barrow are one of the best supported teams in the league. If they had DRS or loan players and get a few wins behind them then the gates would increase and pay for the players on loan. No true fan wants to watch a game like that on Sunday ever again

Excellent post mate but some forwards arnt good enough either

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first rant . hewer you are gutless. I bet the fev player gets a 2 game or more ban. if game was in dying stages you would have sent him off. bottled it . anyway what can we take from todays game? Campbell is such a waste at full back. don't get me wrong he doesn't do much wrong but in this barrow team we don't have a lot of creativity and it showed big time today, cammy shouldn't be playing fullback, we should have sorted this out in the freindlies at the start of season and got one in on loan or signed up. every man and his dog could tell you mcgillvery wasn't a fullback. this in my view was a massive error by the coaching staff.

I know we had some injuries but was this the same barrow that played Sheffield a few weeks ago and pushed them all the way? I thought Sheffield on that day were a better side than fev today but we just never turned up.

man of match I give toal, for his commitment in his tackling but was hard pushed to name anyone else. safe journey home rovers fans.

Lets hope you didn't bet

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I know this is nothing directly to with this stream but have just watched Giants bet Catalan 60-16. If Mondays game between Warrington & Wigan was the best this must be the worst. I thought Giants were the best of 2 poor teams. I thought Catalans were awful and the coach must be worried. The mistakes from both sides were plentiful and the Sky commentators were dreadful.

Just trying to lighten things up a bit after Sunday LOL

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It was a 1 sided contest I agree, but Catalans are still 5th in the league.

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Mind you if you think last night was poor what about the Lions game 3 penalties each at the moment. I do try to watch RU but it winds me up. I just hope the RFL and BBC get plenty of coverage on our WC.. Sorry 4 penalties to 3 at H/T.

Let's get back to this stream LOL

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