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They take after their coach I reckon: I've heard of men being gracious in defeat, he can't even be gracious in victory.

 

I think that they suffer from a sense of entitlement (which isn't reflected in their fans I must say) common to all teams that believe they are better than the rest. They were better than us, miles better in fact, but still felt that every penalty should go their way. On the other hand there are quite a few of them that I would quickly take to if they were playing for us.

 

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Agree the reaction of the fans was wierd. There was a chap standing by me second half who continued to moan and whinge at everything despite being 20 points up.  Eventually I asked if he could me on his party invitation list.  I imagine that they are jolly affairs. 

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Aizue didn't play today - is he injured?

He might be. He took a knock at Sheffield and came off so I presume he didn't recover in time. One thing is for certain though we missed him.

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Agree the reaction of the fans was wierd. There was a chap standing by me second half who continued to moan and whinge at everything despite being 20 points up.  Eventually I asked if he could me on his party invitation list.  I imagine that they are jolly affairs. 

 

 

Actually I meant the opposite - their fans as a whole are a fairly rounded bunch and can take the rough with the smooth. I was particularly aware of this when we beat them in the NRC, after which those few around us congratulated us on the win and wished us all the best in the next round.

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Come on then BSJ - let's have some names.

 

 

Even you couldn't afford them WR.

 

:blum:

 

However Tyrer, Murell, Tonks, Divorty and Thackery would come in handy.

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I've taken a little while to reflect on yesterday's game. Some posters on here appear to have been fairly happy with our performance, yet I was far from being so; maybe I'm over-critical but I hadn't had a drink either. I felt that the difference in quality and application between the two teams was huge and, frankly, too many of our players are simply not good enough. 10/10 for effort but lower scores for ability and nous.

 

Our defence was energetic but shambolic - some players moved up some stayed back; one or two players are continually guilty of rushing out of the line, leaving gaping holes for their teammates to cover; wingmen repeatedly drift inside leaving their respective wings uncovered (even Morton of all players did this yesterday).

 

On attack we give the clear impression that this part of the game is never covered during training - absolutely clueless. We move forward in ones and twos; the half-backs never challenge the line, simply shoveling to ball sideways; our kicking game is abysmal; and we must have the poorest options for half backs in the division.

 

If I looked at the team play last season and compared it with this then I am afraid that I can see no difference. In my view, unreasonable though it might be, our new coaching set-up hasn't made a ha'pennorth of difference to the way the team plays nor its effectiveness.

 

Fortunately there are at least four teams in the division who are far worse than we are, so relegation shouldn't be an issue; in fact we should make the play-offs. But we can expect little real excitement during the rest of the season, and gates that reflect that situation.

 

 

 

:rtfm:

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On attack we give the clear impression that this part of the game is never covered during training - absolutely clueless. We move forward in ones and twos; the half-backs never challenge the line, simply shoveling to ball sideways; our kicking game is abysmal; and we must have the poorest options for half backs in the division.

 

On at least 3 occasions in the 2nd half  we had a scrum in our own 20, but can't for the life in me understand why we didn't kick either on the 1st tackle or directly from the scrum the wind behind us . Especially early on in the half when we were 24 behind after the break. What did we have to lose?... Zip, Nil, big fat zero after all the game was lost by then but the BP wasn't!!! It's not difficult to see this (Fax had shown us how to do it in the 1st half). By the time we kicked the fullback and wingers were in place to field the ball. Dumb rugby IMO.

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I've taken a little while to reflect on yesterday's game. Some posters on here appear to have been fairly happy with our performance, yet I was far from being so; maybe I'm over-critical but I hadn't had a drink either. I felt that the difference in quality and application between the two teams was huge and, frankly, too many of our players are simply not good enough. 10/10 for effort but lower scores for ability and nous.

 

Our defence was energetic but shambolic - some players moved up some stayed back; one or two players are continually guilty of rushing out of the line, leaving gaping holes for their teammates to cover; wingmen repeatedly drift inside leaving their respective wings uncovered (even Morton of all players did this yesterday).

 

On attack we give the clear impression that this part of the game is never covered during training - absolutely clueless. We move forward in ones and twos; the half-backs never challenge the line, simply shoveling to ball sideways; our kicking game is abysmal; and we must have the poorest options for half backs in the division.

 

If I looked at the team play last season and compared it with this then I am afraid that I can see no difference. In my view, unreasonable though it might be, our new coaching set-up hasn't made a ha'pennorth of difference to the way the team plays nor its effectiveness.

 

Fortunately there are at least four teams in the division who are far worse than we are, so relegation shouldn't be an issue; in fact we should make the play-offs. But we can expect little real excitement during the rest of the season, and gates that reflect that situation.

 

 

 

:rtfm:

I came to have a look at both teams, seems to me Dewsbury play too many Dr's and loanees, no settled side.

Bobby Goulding at 7, a key position and a dr player, you need settled players at 6,7 and 13 and full back (Craven) to me.

They look like a team that don't know each other, just my opinion.

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I've taken a little while to reflect on yesterday's game. Some posters on here appear to have been fairly happy with our performance, yet I was far from being so; maybe I'm over-critical but I hadn't had a drink either. I felt that the difference in quality and application between the two teams was huge and, frankly, too many of our players are simply not good enough. 10/10 for effort but lower scores for ability and nous.

 

Our defence was energetic but shambolic - some players moved up some stayed back; one or two players are continually guilty of rushing out of the line, leaving gaping holes for their teammates to cover; wingmen repeatedly drift inside leaving their respective wings uncovered (even Morton of all players did this yesterday).

 

On attack we give the clear impression that this part of the game is never covered during training - absolutely clueless. We move forward in ones and twos; the half-backs never challenge the line, simply shoveling to ball sideways; our kicking game is abysmal; and we must have the poorest options for half backs in the division.

 

If I looked at the team play last season and compared it with this then I am afraid that I can see no difference. In my view, unreasonable though it might be, our new coaching set-up hasn't made a ha'pennorth of difference to the way the team plays nor its effectiveness.

 

Fortunately there are at least four teams in the division who are far worse than we are, so relegation shouldn't be an issue; in fact we should make the play-offs. But we can expect little real excitement during the rest of the season, and gates that reflect that situation.

 

 

 

:rtfm:

 

 

 

Agree with all of that. Thought the way Fax engineered huge overlaps for those walk in tries was frankly embarrassing. Falling off tackles, no kicking game (did the wind die down at half time ?) and no pace in the backs (morton's OK, but if he sprinted against the Batley team he wouldn't finish in the top five). We are just outside the playoffs, but only two wins and a bonus point clear of relegation - which means we are still in a relegation dogfight as far as I'm concerned. If sunday was just a hiccup in our winning run, fine, but if it's the start of another losing spell we are a long way from being out of the woods.

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The Fax fans in front of us were great, had some good banter with them and they wished us well for rest of the season.

But do wish someone would give Handforth a good crack, mind you expect there's a few Fax players who would be at the front of that queue.

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I always find that fax away supporters are a credit  to the club, the trouble is that home supporters are sprinkled with testosterone fuelled football louts looking for a fight.

Ive even seen halifax fans fighting amongst themselves in wetherspoons (And yes, i know rams fans fight over whos round it is)

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