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At least with the introduction of a new chair, it brings to an end the dreadful reign of a chair who managed to lose all Lancashire Youth/Junior and a massive chunk East of the Pennines.

 

Time will certainly tell whether the new chair is comfortable with youth/junior matters now that the driver behind this section of the game has now left BARLA. Whether the game has that time to play with ....

 I detect concern even from you Nev about this appointment. Taxi Egg shares your worry. In the end it is  'more of , more of ' .

 

Olive Branches will probably not be enough . Most outsiders will see this as a take over of what is left of Barla by the Pennine League.

 

So how exactly is the new Chair going to approach  the NCL and the game wide juniors ? Not via  Stuart Prior , if I know him , that's for sure......

 

And most Leagues won't be waiting around........

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Got a feeling this is the Death knell for Barla, however I don't know Sue Taylor but I know Stu and I know he would have been good for the relationship between Barla and the RFL

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 I detect concern even from you Nev about this appointment. Taxi Egg shares your worry. In the end it is  'more of , more of ' .

 

Olive Branches will probably not be enough . Most outsiders will see this as a take over of what is left of Barla by the Pennine League.

 

So how exactly is the new Chair going to approach  the NCL and the game wide juniors ? Not via  Stuart Prior , if I know him , that's for sure......

 

And most Leagues won't be waiting around........

I've only had a few recent dealings with Sue at the district meetings and she has displayed the same concerns as yourself and many others, I don't know Stuart but only heard good reports, I hope he does get offered a major role and is man enough to take it up if offered.

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 I detect concern even from you Nev about this appointment. Taxi Egg shares your worry. In the end it is  'more of , more of ' .

 

Olive Branches will probably not be enough . Most outsiders will see this as a take over of what is left of Barla by the Pennine League.

 

So how exactly is the new Chair going to approach  the NCL and the game wide juniors ? Not via  Stuart Prior , if I know him , that's for sure......

 

And most Leagues won't be waiting around........

 

Not concern or worry Del, just reservations.

 

Comparing both candidates's CVs one looks to be a first class administrator with an arms length of commendations in that line of work, while the other's showed a doer and results person with vision who looks comfortable at levels and in arenas where the BARLA chair will need to show immense strength. 

 

As for approaching the NCL and game wide juniors, I'm sure that the new chair will have come with a plan for this and not to rely on an ex board of management member. However, I agree with you that time will not be an inherited luxury, it seems that the outgoing chair frittered all that away.

 

As I said time will tell if the new chair will be able to succesfully make the transition from the cut and paste world of recording minutes, to the cut and thrust of clear, quick, thinking and decision making.

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Actions speak louder than words.........if BARLA under Sue Taylor start to 'do' rather than 'say'......then it is a step in the right direction at least.

 

It will take time no doubt as there are a lots of things to be corrected from the previous regime first, but a new broom will hopefully sweep clean enough for the first solid foundations to be laid at BARLA in a good while.

 

Give the lady 12 months and lets see where we are then, because it can't possibly be any worse at BARLA than it has been for the last few years.

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Actions speak louder than words.........if BARLA under Sue Taylor start to 'do' rather than 'say'......then it is a step in the right direction at least.

 

It will take time no doubt as there are a lots of things to be corrected from the previous regime first, but a new broom will hopefully sweep clean enough for the first solid foundations to be laid at BARLA in a good while.

 

Give the lady 12 months and lets see where we are then, because it can't possibly be any worse at BARLA than it has been for the last few years.

Agree

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Stop talking in riddles, man.

Who, what, when, why?

 

Talking in riddles , try being in the meeting with the outgoing chair ,not sure what neck of the woods you are from mate but if you had a rep there ask him/her.

 

The meeting was shambolic from start to finish with many delegates in the meeting shaking their heads in disbelief .

 

Despite overseeing a major decline in membership and credibility the outgoing chair was voted in as senior vice president the blind leading the blind .

 

One board member even said he does not attend board meetings because as he quoted he " had nothing to do on the board " but he will get voted in again because of the perverse voting system.

 

I hope Sue Taylor represents the association and is  not just there to strengthen the Pennine League and her first task needs to be to identify the role and impact each board member as to  their input into the running of the association.

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Actions speak louder than words.........if BARLA under Sue Taylor start to 'do' rather than 'say'......then it is a step in the right direction at least.

 

It will take time no doubt as there are a lots of things to be corrected from the previous regime first, but a new broom will hopefully sweep clean enough for the first solid foundations to be laid at BARLA in a good while.

 

Give the lady 12 months and lets see where we are then, because it can't possibly be any worse at BARLA than it has been for the last few years.

 

She doesn't have a hard act to follow but will she follow and not lead?

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She doesn't have a hard act to follow but will she follow and not lead?

 

A question that can only be answered in due course, lets just be thankful we have change that has the potential to give BARLA some purpose once more.

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First off I have promised my wife I will have a good couple of weeks away from the sport in order to re asses my goals in the game. I have to thank her as I have virtually been a stranger to her and my family for the last two years while trying to get into a position to make a difference to this ailing game, sadly I lost the Vote today to put my plans into action and for the record I have no bitterness what so ever with Sue Taylor. Congratulations Sue I congratulated you straight after and I will do so again on here without a problem.

However any olive branch, if considered, would have to be very strong as some of the remaining people their clearly don't want me around. For example the newly elected Vice Chair was only a couple of weeks ago encouraging a member of this forum to stand for a Youth and Junior spot then if I was not elected chair I would be out of the association. I don't work with slime balls who don't have the conviction to talk to you as an adult and tell you what they really think. Steve Manning is a devout RFL hater who has nothing but contempt for them yet he is Sue's new right hand man, sadly Sue may struggle to get Aim no 9 (Better working relationships between BARLA/RFL) with that one!

The second one is the newly elected Senior Vice President, who somewhat got a dislike for me for telling him the truth, has made his feelings very load to the considerable large membership of BARLA about me. Fine he has the right as an individual with his opinion to promote who he considers to be the best candidate but do it for the right reasons and not that to suit your own agenda. However he may have cooked his goose anyway after Sue, quite rightly, demolished him today. All that hard work Spen to get Sue your votes and stop me being elected is probably your downfall anyway as Sue is an intelligent person who probably sees through you just like I did!

I do worry that Sue, and he backers, don't know enough about Youth and Junior as I see nothing in her CV that she can argue the points to the performance dept. who are a very difficult bunch to debate with when you do know your stuff? I have to stay around if only to bring this to a conclusion and if that is not with BARLA then so be it. We have massive challenges at youth and junior especially the 16-18 age groups and I feel there is now no one at BARLA who can act on their behalf, constructively, now that I am not there.

My phone will be switched on for advice as Sue will have to appoint someone to continue the debate up in Cumbria in order to bring matters concerning the Academies to a conclusion. Its going to be tough and the new person taking on the task will have to be fully versed.

As for me now im switching off and kicking back. im off on tour Thursday and looking forward to a rest.

Thanks

Stuart

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First off I have promised my wife I will have a good couple of weeks away from the sport in order to re asses my goals in the game. I have to thank her as I have virtually been a stranger to her and my family for the last two years while trying to get into a position to make a difference to this ailing game, sadly I lost the Vote today to put my plans into action and for the record I have no bitterness what so ever with Sue Taylor. Congratulations Sue I congratulated you straight after and I will do so again on here without a problem.

However any olive branch, if considered, would have to be very strong as some of the remaining people their clearly don't want me around. For example the newly elected Vice Chair was only a couple of weeks ago encouraging a member of this forum to stand for a Youth and Junior spot then if I was not elected chair I would be out of the association. I don't work with slime balls who don't have the conviction to talk to you as an adult and tell you what they really think. Steve Manning is a devout RFL hater who has nothing but contempt for them yet he is Sue's new right hand man, sadly Sue may struggle to get Aim no 9 (Better working relationships between BARLA/RFL) with that one!

The second one is the newly elected Senior Vice President, who somewhat got a dislike for me for telling him the truth, has made his feelings very load to the considerable large membership of BARLA about me. Fine he has the right as an individual with his opinion to promote who he considers to be the best candidate but do it for the right reasons and not that to suit your own agenda. However he may have cooked his goose anyway after Sue, quite rightly, demolished him today. All that hard work Spen to get Sue your votes and stop me being elected is probably your downfall anyway as Sue is an intelligent person who probably sees through you just like I did!

I do worry that Sue, and he backers, don't know enough about Youth and Junior as I see nothing in her CV that she can argue the points to the performance dept. who are a very difficult bunch to debate with when you do know your stuff? I have to stay around if only to bring this to a conclusion and if that is not with BARLA then so be it. We have massive challenges at youth and junior especially the 16-18 age groups and I feel there is now no one at BARLA who can act on their behalf, constructively, now that I am not there.

My phone will be switched on for advice as Sue will have to appoint someone to continue the debate up in Cumbria in order to bring matters concerning the Academies to a conclusion. Its going to be tough and the new person taking on the task will have to be fully versed.

As for me now im switching off and kicking back. im off on tour Thursday and looking forward to a rest.

Thanks

Stuart

 

Good shot mate, I'll bet your chest's a lot lighter after unloading that lot. Very relevant however the points that you make on her right hand man (term used loosely) lots of support there to cement a better relationship with the RFL - I could see the vice chair trying to fit them for concrete boots.

 

Massive challenges with youth, massive challenges with the seasons in fact massive challenges with everything and by the look of the support that you have had around the cyber forums it seems that you could do a job.

 

I'll say it for you - I'll be back

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I don't know Sue Taylor. I wish her well in her new role, but I do feel worried with the comments read here and the comments made locally after Pennine league games

 

I hope she proves them to be incorrect

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I don't know Sue Taylor. I wish her well in her new role, but I do feel worried with the comments read here and the comments made locally after Pennine league games

 

I hope she proves them to be incorrect

I would love Barla to get back to the glory years but after reading all this thread it looks like its hit rock bottom and won't survive . People are more concerned about themselves rather than the organisation . That's the problem . Start to make decisions for the game and not for yourselves . To be honest this thread stinks of selfishness

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I would love Barla to get back to the glory years but after reading all this thread it looks like its hit rock bottom and won't survive . People are more concerned about themselves rather than the organisation . That's the problem . Start to make decisions for the game and not for yourselves . To be honest this thread stinks of selfishness

Not meant for you that maggie

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I for one think the amateur game is on a down hill spiral. Looking as a supporter of Siddal, the gates are down in summer, the side is never the same each week due to other commitments & it just not as exciting as it once was. I agree with the earlier post those BARLA cup ties down Chevinedge were fantastic, this NCL challenge cup just doesn't have the same appeal.

Personally the open age game needs to go back to winter. Why don't BARLA wake up & offer these clubs the option, I'm sure you'll get some takers.

Agree with sid hall..on the occasion a good crowd turns up and its a sunny day ,folk drift off after game to do other things,or stand/ sit outside drinking....the crack in the clubhouses has disappeared !!!

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Sad but true Sid, the game is on a slide but that was evident before the summer switch wich in truth has not helped eliviate the situation one bit.

 

Not wanting to harp on about how good it was in those days (4 years ago) but what an occasion the semi final v Queens at Chevin Edge in 2009. I was lucky enough to be amongst the 1,000 plus spectators that day which saw Siddal put the mighty Queens out of the cup at the pen-ultimate stage. It certainly was standing room only in the clubhouse after the game which had everything.

 

From that Siddal went on to beat Wigan St Cuthberts at Fylde which was then and since has been described by the Siddal Chairman as the club's biggest acheivement.

 

And how Siddal were pilloried by sections of the game for daring to enter a team in the 2011/12 BARLA National cup which ultimately cost them dear after the Leigh Miners game.

 

I agree with you Sid the open age game does belong in winter, but it is up to the clubs to make their feelings known to the management of their particular leagues. If that fails then I'm sure a collective knock on BARLA's door would give the clubs what they desire.

What a game that was siddal v queens..Easter sat 2009,packed crowd ,fantastic game ..u don't get days lie  that anymore sadly

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What a game that was siddal v queens..Easter sat 2009,packed crowd ,fantastic game ..u don't get days lie  that anymore sadly

I remember it well and sadly those kind of days are long gone.  The National Cup certainly brought out the best in players and I for one regret the Cup is not scheduled into the NCL calendar :sclerosis:

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I remember it well and sadly those kind of days are long gone.  The National Cup certainly brought out the best in players and I for one regret the Cup is not scheduled into the NCL calendar :sclerosis:

 

The BARLA National Cup could be on the NCL calendar if teams within the NCL made their feelings known. It may need a little re-jigging but with thought this could be done

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I remember it well and sadly those kind of days are long gone.  The National Cup certainly brought out the best in players and I for one regret the Cup is not scheduled into the NCL calendar :sclerosis:

That's the problem, the NCL management expect the National Cup to be scheduled into the NCL program instead of arranging around the National Cup, I do understand that a little tweaking would have to be made know but If the NCL clubs do want to play their management and BARLA need to talk without any RFL influence.

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bARLA

 

But Keith we are Barla the clubs ,I think  you mean the Board of Management  ?

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Make what you want out of it mick but our game is in a mess from top to bottom , its a selfish game at the top and run by lunatics at amateur level . Mick I do admire the grass roots people they are the lifeblood and your organisation along with others should be proud of what you do . But just read that statement by Stuart prior and its full of bitterness to other people in the Barla ranks , why didn't he make it public beforehand , its all about wearing the blazer and how many tours they can get on . Look at the national finals it was a joke , I don't mean the day itself but the organisation and planning . Can someone on here tell me what Barla have in the bank

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Make what you want out of it mick but our game is in a mess from top to bottom , its a selfish game at the top and run by lunatics at amateur level . Mick I do admire the grass roots people they are the lifeblood and your organisation along with others should be proud of what you do . But just read that statement by Stuart prior and its full of bitterness to other people in the Barla ranks , why didn't he make it public beforehand , its all about wearing the blazer and how many tours they can get on . Look at the national finals it was a joke , I don't mean the day itself but the organisation and planning . Can someone on here tell me what Barla have in the bank

 

By all accounts I think that would all depend on who's account of the account's you got Mr C, it appears they maybe unsure themselves, but Sue Taylor seems to be making inroads into the financial aspect of affairs and will hopefully be able to report with clarity at some point in the future.

 

A bit of a shake up is what is needed at BARLA and Sue Taylor may be able to ruffle enough feathers to start making some sense of the years of nonsense, but is it too late?.........time will no doubt tell.

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Make what you want out of it mick but our game is in a mess from top to bottom , its a selfish game at the top and run by lunatics at amateur level . Mick I do admire the grass roots people they are the lifeblood and your organisation along with others should be proud of what you do . But just read that statement by Stuart prior and its full of bitterness to other people in the Barla ranks , why didn't he make it public beforehand , its all about wearing the blazer and how many tours they can get on . Look at the national finals it was a joke , I don't mean the day itself but the organisation and planning . Can someone on here tell me what Barla have in the bank

I don't think bank accounts would be my first priority if I had just been elected.

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