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Will Rugby League ever be popular in Wales/

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Relatively new to rugby league but it does puzzle me that the sport struggles to establish itself in a rugby mad country like Wales,

I applaud the efforts of the 2 CC1 teams and hope both go forward and prosper and maybe 1 day

 one of them  may become  a super league club,

a few years back there was applications from Cardiff and Swansea along with Gateshead to join

but obviously failed ,

imo  for a welsh club to be successfull  it has to be based in one of the 2 big cities of Wales rather than a small industrial town ,

anyone out there have any ideas,

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Slow and steady growth. I think RL has finally got some good roots down in Wales and some players are coming through to SL level.

Let then build. You never know, another Koukash may come along!

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Basing it in Cardiff or Swansea means that they have to compare with premier league soccer clubs and two regional RU sides....without premier league money behind it any RL side will not compete.

Bridgend is still the best place geographically and player pool wise as rugby is the main game, plus it retains enough of a grudge for losing a regional side and continues to be neglected by the Ospreys. Any rugby league in south wales needs the support of valleys people to be fully successful and neither the ospreys nor the blues nor the dragons have remembered this.

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Perhaps in 3 years time put in another semi pro side, once the other 2 semi pro clubs have become even more esablished.

There must be no rush this time to put a Super League club there, until everything is in place. Build from the bottom is the way forward for Rugby League in the UK.

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Rugby league is popular in Wales. It's never going to be the national sport but Crusaders out-draw all but the professional soccer clubs and Scorpions are on a par (or higher) than most of the Welsh Premier. Both do better than a lot of the second tier union clubs.

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Just needs continued, steady growth in Wales. The structures are there now, it's just down to money and sensible management to build the game even more.

 

A good world cup showing from Wales wouldn't do them any harm.

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Just carry on what's already been done we need the money and effort going into the junior, community, schools ect then on the back of that look at establishing good amateur clubs that can build towards championship 1 hemel stags a great example the more clubs we can get at the similar level as crusaders n scorpions the better and that's the way the game will grow from bottom up with good foundations and 1 day a Wales club WIll be in a posisition to go after a super league place

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I am sad to say that the open age game in South Wales is really struggling now with just a six team, not sure about the juniors, there are a lot of clubs who say they have junior teams but it is difficult to tell how many games take place.

Also there is some bad news just around the corners for both North & South Wales in the development side of the community and junior game. 

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I am sad to say that the open age game in South Wales is really struggling now with just a six team, not sure about the juniors, there are a lot of clubs who say they have junior teams but it is difficult to tell how many games take place.

Also there is some bad news just around the corners for both North & South Wales in the development side of the community and junior game. 

 

What bad news?

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Wats the bad news?, generally it seems that Wales are doing alright with the crusaders and scorpions been stable and competitive also with wigan link thats helping would like to see other super league clubs do the same

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I do not think Scorpions are that stable with one of their best players and two others just leaving to go to the bottom of the table side. Sorry to be doom and gloom but that is the way I see it.

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I do not think Scorpions are that stable with one of their best players and two others just leaving to go to the bottom of the table side. Sorry to be doom and gloom but that is the way I see it.

The Scorpions under 20's were due to play at Fev today but couldn't raise a team which surprises me.

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Understand what your saying and certainly not as strong as the crusaders and yeh most probably hav there difficulties but given the fact there still a young club they've been relatively successfull and with new potential expansion sides coming in on the field the scorpions should remain pretty competitive

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I was going to put that as this I think it is the third time this has happened this season though also Hemel didn't go to oldham today for their junior fixture due to lack of players.

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Not sure about South Wales, where even the RU regional sides struggle to compete with the round ball game, but I think that there's definitely a long term future for us in mid and North Wales.

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I agree that the future for North Wales is far more healthier, there is far greater enthausim for the game now in the North and Mid Wales

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The long term future for the game in Wales and the popularity of the game in Wales is to be found in the game being played in increasing numbers of schools in Wales. 

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Perhaps in 3 years time put in another semi pro side,  Build from the bottom is the way forward for Rugby League in the UK.

 

The idea that building from the bottom is the way keeps cropping up in post after post.

 

I note that it crops up in this post then observers go on to comment that what Welsh clubs there are, are struggling for players, games are getting cancelled, and schools RL isn't played as regularly as people think.

 

When Crusaders were on the up building from investment monies things were more vibrant, as reported by several welsh posters on here.

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I think the Scorps are trying very hard to spread the message locally.  They've had schools comps there and student internationals as well as the regular first grade team, almost all of whom are locals (with some Wiganers thrown in sometimes).  They have it tough in the south though, or that's the impression I get from the updates I read in the RL press, but they aren't without their achievements.  Only time will tell I guess whether RL catches on in the south of the principality.

 

The scene in Wrexham does look much healthier, with the Crusaders recently starting up a wheelchair RL team in addition to their other teams (and a wheelchair team that has won matches).  I think Wrexham took to rugby league and while they aren't turning up in droves (seems to be between around 800 and 1000) the fanbase appears to be a loyal and vocal one, and the club appears to have put down roots in the local community, something that is important to the success of a rugby league club I reckon.

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I agree that the future for North Wales is far more healthier, there is far greater enthausim for the game now in the North and Mid Wales

 

Of course the advantage the Crusaders have is their proximity to the heartlands in the North West, which means they can pick up many players who, to use the parlance, can do a good job at CC1 level. The Scorpions don't have that advantage. A winning team always creates more enthusiasm. Whether that means the future in terms of developing local players in more healthier is another matter altogether.

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The idea that building from the bottom is the way keeps cropping up in post after post.

 

I note that it crops up in this post then observers go on to comment that what Welsh clubs there are, are struggling for players, games are getting cancelled, and schools RL isn't played as regularly as people think.

 

When Crusaders were on the up building from investment monies things were more vibrant, as reported by several welsh posters on here.

I think the two aren't mutually exclusive. There has to be some work at the bottom, but without the massive investment needed from the top, the outlook would be bleak.

Perhaps there may be something in it......

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