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Does anyone else want USA to do well in the World Cup?

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As the title says, do you?

If they do well it could really kickstart the game there and then who knows what could happen!

Their union team seems to have a good following and league is closer to American Football so surely we'd be a better code to watch/play as it's what they're used to really.

Also, unlike Italy mentioned in the other thread, I think they'll be using mainly American players.

Your thoughts?

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The USA will be using as many heritage players as they can find. I'm in two minds about do I want them to do well. Yes for the obvious reasons and no for the discriminination shown by the AMNRL towards some American players. I used to follow the American game closely but my interest is now very low since the split competitions came about. I feel the same about Italian RL too.

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Really hope they are competitive at the very least but I feel that they may be well out of their depth.

I do however feel that rl could really do well in certain parts of USA but like all things there is just not enough money to push the point in such a vast nation even though Russell Crowe does try.

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Really hope they are competitive at the very least but I feel that they may be well out of their depth.

I do however feel that rl could really do well in certain parts of USA but like all things there is just not enough money to push the point in such a vast nation even though Russell Crowe does try.

The only thing Crowe pushes in the US is Souths. He's never once been seen on a US chat show promoting US rugby league yet happily gets the hosts to wear Souths caps or shirts.

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I'm looking forward to watching USA vs Cook Islands in Bristol. I'll be cheering the Cooks but still hope USA play well.

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The USA will be using as many heritage players as they can find. I'm in two minds about do I want them to do well. Yes for the obvious reasons and no for the discriminination shown by the AMNRL towards some American players. I used to follow the American game closely but my interest is now very low since the split competitions came about. I feel the same about Italian RL too.

It's looking like at least some USARL players could be selected for the World Cup. I doubt there will be too many domestics though.

 

TBH I don't think it makes much difference whether or not the USA do well at the WC, since the game over there is a bit of a disorganized rabble at the moment.

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Hope they do well, but don't see it as a major things for the sport in the US. They seem to be a bit of a shambles over there. An article in (I think) 40-20 mag likened their level to a good country game in Oz or a good semi-pro game in England.

 

Just want to see some competitive games in the World Cup with the speccies who go, enjoying it.

 

Be a plus if it don't pee down for 6 weeks too.

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will be wanting the usa to do well, if the game can take off over there then the sky's the limit............

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If you have following the USA game over the past two years  you will know its all a bit of a shambles.

To many ego's and self interest seems to have stalled what should have been massive development.

Here's hoping the WC can unite the game on the other side of the pond.

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I hope the AMNRL Tomahawks do poor. They don't represent all of the game in the US and are causing the game over there to stall its development.

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I'm looking forward to watching USA vs Cook Islands in Bristol. I'll be cheering the Cooks but still hope USA play well.

 

 

Looking forward to the game too but might cheer for the US. Middle section of the main stand has sold out, which is great!

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I live in the Philadelphia area and I have noticed recently when about "Rugby' I am not now always having to explain the differences between the two codes.There is a barmaid where I drink and her boyfriend plays for PHILADELPHIA FIGHT and I gave her Kevin Sinfield's testimonial shirt for him.He had actually heard of Sinfield and several other of our player's.However USA remains a very insular nation that only their culture has any interest to them.After many years of trying  Association football appears to be getting established,I see more and more people walking around in Philadelphia Union shirt's.However there are  most of them who only recognize their own sport's.I talk to another lad who works behindthe bar,very knowlegable on the 4 major US sports I alway's ask him about baseball and NFL,but he actually thought the "soccer "they play is a different version to FIFA rules.I would like USA to do well in the RLWC,but I am afraid it wont get noticed very much over here,not at the present time anyway

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I just find it hard to see any real meaningful future given how big the United States is. We lack the resources and influence to get the job done, or at least that's what it seems like. So being the miserable #### that I am I think my answer is no, I really wouldn't want to see the USA do all that well because it would be a hollow gesture. I'd rather see some obscure nation, where league has a chance of establishing itself as a credible sport, playing themselves into a success story.

 

I've got my fingers crossed that rugby union really makes inroads and gets a professional comp and tv deal lined up within the next few years. I know I'm not supposed to say that, but union going from strength to strength is the only way I see league really going anywhere. And with their Sevens development going as great as it is, not to mention the talk of a professional comp in the next few years which is being backed by the NFL, I can see rugby union carving out a niche market for itself easily enough. We should be planning to capitalise on that.

 

The Americans aren't doing a bad job by any means, I just feel logistically the sport is out of our league in a place as big and commercial as the USA.

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No, not ars3d I'm English .... Means nowt to me.... My only concern is England

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I just find it hard to see any real meaningful future given how big the United States is. We lack the resources and influence to get the job done, or at least that's what it seems like. So being the miserable #### that I am I think my answer is no, I really wouldn't want to see the USA do all that well because it would be a hollow gesture. I'd rather see some obscure nation, where league has a chance of establishing itself as a credible sport, playing themselves into a success story.

 

I've got my fingers crossed that rugby union really makes inroads and gets a professional comp and tv deal lined up within the next few years. I know I'm not supposed to say that, but union going from strength to strength is the only way I see league really going anywhere. And with their Sevens development going as great as it is, not to mention the talk of a professional comp in the next few years which is being backed by the NFL, I can see rugby union carving out a niche market for itself easily enough. We should be planning to capitalise on that.

 

The Americans aren't doing a bad job by any means, I just feel logistically the sport is out of our league in a place as big and commercial as the USA.

Football (soccer) is a minor sport in America and their national team is still relatively strong, and that's the biggest and most powerful sport in the world. 10% penetration in the USA is better than 100% penetration in even a reasonable sized country. Rugby union is irrelevant and I don't know WTF you are talking about with regards to that.

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I hope all the teams play well and provide some exciting games with a couple of shocks. Mainly England winning in Cardiff and then again at Old Trafford!

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Some of the best games in world cups are those from which you have relatively few expectations. I hope all of the teams are competitive and a number of players from leagues outside of SL/NRL make a name for themselves on the world cup stage.

So yes, hope the USA do well.

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Some of the best games in world cups are those from which you have relatively few expectations. I hope all of the teams are competitive and a number of players from leagues outside of SL/NRL make a name for themselves on the world cup stage.

 

I totally agree with that sentiment Browny. I'll be going to see the lesser lights rather than the usual suspects come WC time.

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The USA will probably not do too much until there is a fourth nation in the region that gains rlif status giving the region its own qualifying zone and what not, they'll have to start working harder then. Jamaica seems to be growing very fast and Canada seems to be able to promote the games they have held very well, not sure how the club game is, but the National team gets supported. Next time there's a wc qualifying tourney, they will find it much much harder to make the WC if they don't start laying down proper roots and foundations. You can't rely on ringers forever.

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I just find it hard to see any real meaningful future given how big the United States is. We lack the resources and influence to get the job done, or at least that's what it seems like. So being the miserable #### that I am I think my answer is no, I really wouldn't want to see the USA do all that well because it would be a hollow gesture. I'd rather see some obscure nation, where league has a chance of establishing itself as a credible sport, playing themselves into a success story.

 

I've got my fingers crossed that rugby union really makes inroads and gets a professional comp and tv deal lined up within the next few years. I know I'm not supposed to say that, but union going from strength to strength is the only way I see league really going anywhere. And with their Sevens development going as great as it is, not to mention the talk of a professional comp in the next few years which is being backed by the NFL, I can see rugby union carving out a niche market for itself easily enough. We should be planning to capitalise on that.

 

The Americans aren't doing a bad job by any means, I just feel logistically the sport is out of our league in a place as big and commercial as the USA.

I have been on many rugby tours to the USA to play union. The first was to Boston in 1969 and the game there was in the same state RL is in now, very few teams, very much a minor sporting anachronism and there internationals against only Canada drew a couple of thousand.

Today they are big in the colleges, have thousands of clubs. have there games on Fox and ESPN, especially the 7s of Olympic fame and just got an attendance of over 20,000 in Houston to see them have a very competitive game against Ireland.

So I hope RL can expand on the back of their coattails trading on the name Rugby and then showcasing the better attributes of our game. It is far better suited to American athletes than the confusing mish mash that is RU. If they can stabilise and grow there are enough top class athletes in the US who do not make the NFL, who could make the USA very competitive.

Fox soccer channel now show NRL and SL each week in the US so the message is getting out there. Hopefully the USgames from the world Cup will get some exposure.

The internecine struggle between two leagues has to end. The RLIF should step and sort it out. There are not really enough teams for two leagues.

As to the size of the country being a problem, I think the only was for them to go is to regionalise, and for the winners of each region maybe meet at a magic weekend type event to determine the national champion. Conferences are their speciality.

As to this November, my wife is a proud New Englander and my children are dual national Uk/US citizens so she and I will be there and we will be waving the stars and stripes enthusiastically. This is their first appearance and they had to qualify just to get there and the results are irrelevant to a degree but I do know they will give 100% effort from kick off to final whistle.

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To comment on a few of the earlier posts:

 

- I'll be supporting the USA in their World Cup endeavors even with the archaic political ban on our Boston 13s players and other USARL guys.

- In my opinion the 2 competitions desperately need to get back together to either provide an elite league and a development league *or* a North Conference / South Conference structure (The North/South split being my preferred option).

- I believe lots of heritage players will be used from what I heard on the grapevine.

- It's great that NRL & Super League is now shown on TV here but unfortunately rugby union is growing very strong and a rapid rate so rugby league is forever going to be in the shadows (Some think union growing will help RL, others think it will hinder it). From a personal point of view, here in Boston we've found it increasingly hard to recruit this summer as more and more players are playing summer 7s as they all have aspirations of making the US Olympic side. 

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Does anyone know if the RLIF has any actual power or jurisdiction to step in and mediate or even order re unification of the game in the USA and in Italy for that matter.

 

Maybe they could use the threat of a complete ban from international RL and the World Cup in the future unless the two nations get their houses in order and form one league.

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I know that Tas Baitieri was involved in the reunification talks over the offseason but as is evident, nothing really got sorted.

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