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Ah well.  I wonder how that'll go down with the unions.  I think there may be a few strikes to come!

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Ah well.  I wonder how that'll go down with the unions.  I think there may be a few strikes to come!

 

Oh just a few!

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I genuinely can't understand how councils will be able to operate with yet another 10% cut.  I've seen the deep and immensely painful cuts that councils have already had to make and most just cannot fund statutory services around social care never mind things that are marked as "nice to have" like libraries and parks.  Will the government commit to accept the blame when there are inevitable tragedies because social care has been cut?

 

HS2 still on the table despite it being clearly a "nice to have" right at the very wishful thinking end of "nice to have".

 

"Elite sport" to be protected from cuts but community sport budgets reduced by 5%.  Yep, they clearly think that "elite" sports people just come into being without having a community game as a grounding.

 

Argh.. can I listen to more of this?

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It's interesting watching the body language though.

 

Nick Clegg looks like he's about to cry, his body language is defensive and anxious.  You can almost read this thoughts "oh, f***, what have I done?"  It's almost a classic body language manual of high stress, the only thing he could do to make it more classic is if he were to curl up in a foetal position on the floor.

 

Cameron looks like a well drilled drone though, neutral body language, serious part-frown, ready to do business with nowt but empty thoughts going through his head.

 

I did notice Osborne doing very, very well in making it clear that the Lib Dems, Danny Alexander in particular, were very helpful in getting the cuts identified.  He's made it abundantly clear that this is a Coalition spending review, not a Tory one.

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Pay frozen - goodbye to attending RL at CH or SL level . I barely live on £8 an hour. Sky, tv & broadband to go next 

 

I'm going to town now to get my £82 bus pass so I can return to work still unwell but scared to lose my job. I shall spend the £20 Next voucher my colleagues bought for me whilst I've been off on a pair of shoes for work. I am not looking for sympathy, just trying to stress how hard it really is down here.

 

I've argued long and hard for performance related pay and I know there are dead legs, and bad management, but for goodness sake...aim at the salaries above the average

 

*maybe I need to read it all first and see the details, but the headlines got me in rant mode

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Labour's rebuttal is being spoiled for me by that distracting white spot on top of Miliband's head.

 

Pointless drivel so far by Balls.  Enough that if it were a rebuttal posted on here that we'd be looking at it sternly in moderating terms to see whether it's a serious rebuttal or just trolling.

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Mixed emotions on this.

 

1. Primarily, it is grossly unfair to cut services in deprived areas where those authority-run services are much more required than in affluent areas.

 

2. Bradford Council is so inept and opaquely-administered that it could do with a radical shake-up. Redundancy for two particular planning officers would cause no tears to be shed in this house.

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Ending progression pay in civil service will go down well....

Progression pay? That's where teachers and the like get a pay rise for sticking it out for a year is it not? is it based on their ability to do the job?

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Progression pay? That's where teachers and the like get a pay rise for sticking it out for a year is it not? is it based on their ability to do the job?

It's exactly the same setup as in many professional services companies in the UK but they don't get publicised.  For example, a lawyer joining a medium to large law firm today as a newly qualified lawyer will know exactly what their basic pay will be in 3 years time because it'll be mapped out for them.

The difference is that that lawyer will be getting 15-20% pay rises year on year.

It's easy to bag on the civil servants affected but realistically it's only those on the lowest bands that will be affected, not those marked as senior civil servants.

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Osborne bollocked by the speaker for not answering questions! :D

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Ah well.  I wonder how that'll go down with the unions.  I think there may be a few strikes to come!

 That will save even more on the salary bill. End to progression pay? so there hasn't been a pay freeze after all? 

 

On the local authority front, Cheshire East council has just given £400K to Macc Town FC and also wasted £800K  on the Lyme Green waste facility when it didn't have planing permission and did not go out to tender correctly  - and plus the costs of payoff to the senior staff responsible. One example of waste only, but if that were replicated....

 

Still, As Liam Byre said, " there's no money left, we've spent it all."

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It's exactly the same setup as in many professional services companies in the UK but they don't get publicised.  For example, a lawyer joining a law firm today as a newly qualified lawyer will know exactly what their basic pay will be in 3 years time because it'll be mapped out for them.

The difference is that that lawyer will be getting 15-20% pay rises year on year.

It's easy to bag on the civil servants affected but realistically it's only those on the lowest bands that will be affected, not those marked as senior civil servants.

 it's only those on the lowest bands that will be affected, not those marked as senior civil servants.

 

are you sure about that?

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Progression pay? That's where teachers and the like get a pay rise for sticking it out for a year is it not? is it based on their ability to do the job?

 

When I was in the civil service, poor performance could result in staying at the pay band/point you was at.

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 it's only those on the lowest bands that will be affected, not those marked as senior civil servants.

 

are you sure about that?

Not entirely... I remember a meeting I was in when the banding structure was explained to me and automatic progression only applies up to a set grade, after that pay rises are set by an external panel to all grades, usually slightly above inflation but not much.  I may be wrong and am happy to be corrected.

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On this review discussion, I'm not best pleased that the entire shadow cabinet has walked off leaving a junior minister on benchwarming duties while the Chancellor is still talking and answering questions.  Come on Mr Balls, show a bit of respect to Parliament and stay to give the Labour MPs behind some support when they try to tie down the Chancellor.

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On this review discussion, I'm not best pleased that the entire shadow cabinet has walked off leaving a junior minister on benchwarming duties while the Chancellor is still talking and answering questions.  Come on Mr Balls, show a bit of respect to Parliament and stay to give the Labour MPs behind some support when they try to tie down the Chancellor.

The consequence of this is that Osborne is now able to repeatedly refer to the Shadow Chancellor and his incompetence without rebuttal.  It's almost non-stop now, Labour MP raises question, Osborne replies with "well it was worse under your government" or "your Shadow Chancellor says differently".  Either that or toadie Tory MP raises a question about how ###### Labour are or how ###### Balls is and Osborne gets a free hit at Labour.

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On the BBC news bit just now, all of the capital investment that Osborne was so proud of announcing will come from PFI and other non-state funding.  Yay for all that extra long-term expensive debt!

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The consequence of this is that Osborne is now able to repeatedly refer to the Shadow Chancellor and his incompetence without rebuttal. 

 

To be honest, even if the chamber was full of Labour mp's I'm not convinced they'd be able to rebutt anything regards Balls and his incompetence.

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To be honest, even if the chamber was full of Labour mp's I'm not convinced they'd be able to rebutt anything regards Balls and his incompetence.

There is that :D

 

That said, it's a bit rich coming from Osborne, Balls is a financial genius in comparison to Osborne.  Osborne's plans are so full of inconsistencies and holes and he got away with it because Balls barely hung around to get his weak rebuttal in.  A slot on the BBC programme was obviously far more preferable than sitting in Parliament.  Only one gets recorded in Hansard though.

 

So... I've had a go at the three big parties on here... UKIP representative was just on the BBC review.  A nothing question thrown at him trying to get depth on something he said and you'd think he'd been accused of molesting sheep going by how flustered he got.  I applaud the UKIP speaking up on things that are not EU or immigrant related but, come on, I'd expect a school kid to have done better than the person they put forward.

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There is that :D

 

That said, it's a bit rich coming from Osborne, Balls is a financial genius in comparison to Osborne.  Osborne's plans are so full of inconsistencies and holes and he got away with it because Balls barely hung around to get his weak rebuttal in.  A slot on the BBC programme was obviously far more preferable than sitting in Parliament.  Only one gets recorded in Hansard though.

 

So... I've had a go at the three big parties on here... UKIP representative was just on the BBC review.  A nothing question thrown at him trying to get depth on something he said and you'd think he'd been accused of molesting sheep going by how flustered he got.  I applaud the UKIP speaking up on things that are not EU or immigrant related but, come on, I'd expect a school kid to have done better than the person they put forward.

I think the point is none of them are financial geniuses. They just listen to "advisors". I'm a great believer that regards the economy doing absolutely ###### all would have been just as effective. Things always sort themselves out one way or another.

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German construction sector falls short of annual target for 2013
Due to the long winter and the floods, the German construction industry recorded a turnover of only EUR 21 billion between January and April, 6.5% less than in the year-ago period. It is thus falling short of its goals for 2013.

 

 
 
Economy of the Netherlands shrinks more than expected
The Dutch economy contracted 0.4% in the first quarter compared to the end of 2012. The national statistics office had forecast a 0.1% decline of the GDP. The European Commission expects the Dutch economy to contract 0.8% in 2013.

 

 
We get a "news ticker" on our pc's at work, which gives updates on European financial news etc. This is what's on there now.

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On the BBC news bit just now, all of the capital investment that Osborne was so proud of announcing will come from PFI and other non-state funding.  Yay for all that extra long-term expensive debt!

 

T'was ever thus. I worked in local government for over twenty years and all purchase items were allocated/decreed  by central government  to only be bought from a "capital" account or a "revenue" account. Anything restricted to a "revenue" account could only be purchaesed via a loan, irrespective of whether the local authority had enough spare cash to buy it outright. Obviously, in most instances, for a given item (e.g. wagons, machinery) the cost of hire-purchase and/or rental is consideraby more than outright purchase.

 

The system has always looked after the banks and city boys, to the detriment of the ratepayers.

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the entire shadow cabinet has walked off leaving a junior minister on benchwarming duties while the Chancellor is still talking and answering questions.

Is Gordon Brown still there?

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Not entirely... I remember a meeting I was in when the banding structure was explained to me and automatic progression only applies up to a set grade, after that pay rises are set by an external panel to all grades, usually slightly above inflation but not much.  I may be wrong and am happy to be corrected.

 

in the "civil service"  - and i'm not sure if  this includes the NHS, police, local govt etc  etc, I think there are many people on low incomes that should not suffer. However, I do know that there are also many who are on a decent package, too. We we told there had been a pay freeze and at that time I suspected that this did not cover "increments" . So clearly there wasn't   a pay freeze after all.   

 

As for professional services companies, it is equally wrong at present, and working for them must be like working in the Civil Service, only the owners, investors and shareholders can do something about if they wish. 

 

In my view, Osborne is every bit as good as Balls, who is all talk and red faced pretend anger, given they would have taken the same approach. The problem is that there is a law of diminishing returns and it will be tough to gain extra revenue via taxation, either personal or corporate, as people and corporations will continue to take action not to pay tax - either by not spending or by changing the way they work. Want an extra £20 billion a year  to  stave off cuts?  Put up VED by  £666 per vehicle average.

 

Pu up VAt and peoplw wil stop bying things. Lower VAT by 5% and you'll need an increase sales of  how much, just to break even.

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