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Ryan Shaw goes on loan to London Broncos

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According to the BBC website my sponsored player Ryan Shaw has joined London Broncos on a one month loan.

He will make his debut against Salford City Reds at the weekend and hope he gets of the mark with his scoring. I of course will put in for a reduction in my sponsorship !! :-)

Good luck Ryan

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What belongs to warrington belongs to them, what belongs to swinton belongs to warrington too, that's how DR works now "tongue in cheek".

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The BBC have got it right this time.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/23069603

Over Mendieka I sent them a quick e-mail telling them there facts were incorrect, they apologised and corrected the story the next day. It may seem petty but getting swinton onto the bbc sports news pages is important publicity.

Good luck to Ryan. Think he may need it at London! At least harvey had taken over kicking duties already.

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Mr Ainscough played on the wing when he came on at Hunslet, looks like he'll continue there.

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Good luck to Ryan. Could have done without it at this stage of the season but so it goes in the murky world of D/R!

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Well it certainly isn't the Swinton coaching staff that made this decision - no one loans out a player that has been a regular in the side all season.............although with Harvey taking over the goal kicking duties, it does suggest that the loan deal had been known about before hand ?

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It's written however the writer wishes it to be read!

The writer is wrong!

 

Good luck to Ryan. Could have done without it at this stage of the season but so it goes in the murky world of D/R!

 

If you truly believe Ryan Shaw is genuinely Swinton's player (and therefore the statement from the Broncos referring to him as a Warrington player is incorrect as you say) then surely this deal is nothing whatsoever to do with Dual Registration?

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If you truly believe Ryan Shaw is genuinely Swinton's player (and therefore the statement from the Broncos referring to him as a Warrington player is incorrect as you say) then surely this deal is nothing whatsoever to do with Dual Registration?

Hence the comment 'murky world' Phillip but probably the wrong use of d/r.

I would think ( which makes it my opinion and not fact as I haven't read it) that there would be some clause in his contract that he signed with US at the start of the season that if a super league club came in with a loan deal for him then we would have to let him go.

The writer is plainly wrong as Ryan is registered with us for this season at least. Full stop. He has played for us all season and no other up to this point. You can't get away from this Phillip.

If you have read the comments from Ian Watson in his interview published on the Love Rugby League site then you will know that he states that he is happy with the way the system is working at the moment and takes into account the player situation and also the training facilities provided etc. Is he wrong, is he lying?

I will again state on record that I am not in agreement with everything that has happened this season and in years past. I have my own OPINIONS on things based on the info I receive from various sources, but they are exactly that. If they differ from yours it doesn't make me wrong, or you, just different. What I do try and do is put as upbeat a spin on my views, and life for that matter, as I believe it's better all round if I am smiling (as I'm a bad man when I'm not)! If you bear that in mind Phillip then you may find (again my opinion) that some posters on this site would be a little less critical of your critiques. You may feel you already do. How do I know?

In the case of RS going to London, then if he has to go then so be it. I didn't write his contract. I'd rather he didn't. However if he goes and comes back a better player then all the better for us if indeed it's us he returns to. Putting the mockers on his spell there wouldn't do anyone any good. He's a young lad who wants to play at the highest standard he can.

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Well that's the problem with the DR system ( or indeed contracts in place ) - it seems to be all about the development of the players and not about the success & viability of Swinton. As I have said before, Warrington will sent their fringe players out on loan to other SL clubs for that very reason - the experience gained will improve them as players, more so it would seem than have the them play exclusively for Swinton. I understand that Ryan Shaw was at Barrow last season - was he also loaned out to SL clubs last season ?

 

Just for interest are other Championship clubs also seeing their DR players being loaned out to SL clubs ?

 

I think it is a really difficult task coaching a squad of players that is in flux - most of the time..............

 

 

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Ryan Shaw was on loan at Castleford last season.

 

Shaw isn't a DR player loaned out to London Broncos.   He is a Swinton player loaned out to London Broncos.

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Lets have this discussion again?

Only a few moments ago Ryan was to blame for everything according to some. Now we are aghast hes gone to London

Zzzzzzzz

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Well Mark the thing is - we cannot talk about being top of the league or Kersal - so we must talk about something ...........you can go back to sleep now............:)

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So Swinton could have said "No, your not having him then"?

I refer you to my previous answer re contracts!

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I refer you to my previous answer re contracts!

Would you mind repeating your answer so he can repeat the question then copy n paste it ready for next week....

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Well Mark the thing is - we cannot talk about being top of the league or Kersal - so we must talk about something ...........you can go back to sleep now............:)

Ha....I struggle to sleep knowing we've lost Ryan for a month. I like the lad. Hes got a great future ahead of him

I don't think hes ready yet for our league every week let alone super league

As for the politics of it all....why should I worry. Lifes too short and my ramblings won't affect it

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So Swinton could have said "No, your not having him then"?

I would have thought they would have to agree with the deal as he is a signed on player and therefore could have said no. Not sure that was what you were asking though.

That said would your club say no if one of your players was offered games in the superleague?

From my experience clubs such a swinton would not stand in the way of a players individual development and transfer fees were already a thing of the past in my opinion. Like I say good luck to the lad and if london want to keep him then they know where to send the cheque........

.......To Riggy!

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Wayne more or less hit the nail on the head then. The whole of RL outside of SL now exists purely for player development for the ultimate benefit of SL clubs. It's difficult to see how Championship teams can develop in their own right unless there is a meaningful route for aspirational clubs towards SL itself.

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Wayne more or less hit the nail on the head then. The whole of RL outside of SL now exists purely for player development for the ultimate benefit of SL clubs. It's difficult to see how Championship teams can develop in their own right unless there is a meaningful route for aspirational clubs towards SL itself.

 

A few Championship clubs still have that ambition, but no doubt they are in the minority and are on the receiving end of an increasingly difficult hand of cards year-on-year.  The vision seems to be that the only route into pro RL should be via the youth development programme of a Super League club, those that don't make it being cascaded down the leagues.  Then the RFL wonder why participation figures are declining incurring the wrath of Sport England!

 

In the case of semi-pro clubs based in areas where the game was not traditionally played the story is slightly different.  We've now got quite a lot of them.

 

As Mark Aston has pointed out this week, the development of young players is not necessarily best served by changing clubs every few months.  Gareth O'Brien being a quoted example - 4 different clubs in double quick time - can that really be good for his development?

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So he goes all the way to London and gets called into the squad that lost to Salford today and didn't even get a game.

Disgrace !  We should recall him straight away if they are not going to play him ! :angry:

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With home grown stars like Yere Taulapau and Toagage its hard to argue with Ashtons point of view hes really leading the way. Signing Tom Armstrong from us and the recent Leeds loanee back up his argument

Many Leigh fans were decrying our reliance on Warrington players after they beat us earlier this season whilst all but two of their team had been signed in from elsewhere and usually from a higher level.

So maybe its not just as easy as saying something ambiguous. Maybe teams at all level fail to see the long term picture and instead rely on the hope that super league cast offs will bring more instant success. Is it that they aren't prepared to accept the dip in form that a transition from that to developing youngsters brings?

Maybe that's what Chambers is trying to do know?

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So he goes all the way to London and gets called into the squad that lost to Salford today and didn't even get a game.

Disgrace !  We should recall him straight away if they are not going to play him ! :angry:

Apparently was supposed to start on the bench for London but because Soward arrived from Oz he was put out to 18th man.

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