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this post much more sensible than the previous one

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this post much more sensible than the previous one

And this one as pathetic as your previous one

I had the good grace to answer your question

It's a pity but unsurprising that you are unable to provide a grown up response

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And this one as pathetic as your previous one

I had the good grace to answer your question

It's a pity but unsurprising that you are unable to provide a grown up response

i apologise. i thought your response was a poor attempt at sarcasm

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i apologise. i thought your response was a poor attempt at sarcasm

And that's a poor attempt at a response

You aren't much cop at humour either

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And that's a poor attempt at a response

You aren't much cop at humour either

;):D

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One major difference with P & R now having had licensing is that whereas under the old system clubs just went broke and into Administration etc. Recently clubs going broke, ie Widnes, Bradford and Salford(who didn't go into admin) where all bought by non Rugby League business men.

They knew that with a 3 year licence priod they had time to turn around a club in that time both on and off the field.

That wouldn't have happened with P & R and all three could have eventually gone into liquidation.

Bringing back P & R would be a disaster.

Good call

Having it in the first place was a disaster

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You think that allowing Featherstone, Leigh and Halifax back into the elite fold will create “intense competition”?

 

Did the last 20 years not happen in your world?

It's got absolutely nothing to do with allowing Fev, Leigh and Fax back onto the elite. There's no guarantee any of them will qualify. It's about the nature of the competition and the intensity it will generate.

You've made more comebacks than Frank Sinatra, sadly.

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It's got absolutely nothing to do with allowing Fev, Leigh and Fax back onto the elite. There's no guarantee any of them will qualify. It's about the nature of the competition and the intensity it will generate.

You've made more comebacks than Frank Sinatra, sadly.

And the super league clubs are behind it all apparently

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Enough of them hopefully[/quote

Hopefully?

You were pretty certain a couple of days ago

And it was 'the clubs' and it was all their idea.

Or am I being pedantic?

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Enough of them hopefully

Hopefully?

You were pretty certain a couple of days ago

And it was 'the clubs' and it was all their idea.

Or am I being pedantic?

Merely going on what Mr Rimmer said on Boots n all who conveyed the feeling from last Wednesday's meeting of SL clubs. Did you hear it differently?

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Merely going on what Mr Rimmer said on Boots n all who conveyed the feeling from last Wednesday's meeting of SL clubs. Did you hear it differently?

I didn't hear it at all.

it woul;d appear that nobody else did either.

Why wait until now, and why contradict yourself?

 

What did Rimmer say? His performance was highly criticised.

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martyn's column in league express this week was excellent, he highlighted what steve o'connor has brought to the game and was gushing in his praise for the man. people like steve, omar khan and koukash have certainly given the game a massive kick up the backside and have certainly brought their business accumen to the table...

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Growth in attendances

Growth in geographical spread- see championship one

Clubs conducting themselves in a more professional way including yours

More and better tv coverage

Runners up in the 4 nations having beaten the world champions to get there

High class young players coming to prominence- hence NRL clubs recruit them

And whether you like it or not financial stability: one shudders to think what would have happened during the recession if clubs were run like they were

Between 1973 and 1993 ie the previous twenty years how many great achievements were there in rugby league in this country? After a them wot days

The sport has major problems and challenges

many of them going back to 1895

I would suggest that for all its faults the way the game is run now is better than the era the self serving victim centred parochial it's whinge about returning to

Edit: and here's to a successful and enjoyable World Cup I don't think a small group of narrow minded whingers will be missed

I agree its helped some clubs improve but there's still clubs that are struggling and going into administration etc. So shouldn't clubs like featherstone who have got they're houses in order be replacing them? Why would this be a backwards step?

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I agree its helped some clubs improve but there's still clubs that are struggling and going into administration etc. So shouldn't clubs like featherstone who have got they're houses in order be replacing them? Why would this be a backwards step?

there are already two clubs in super league almost within walking distance of featherstone.

 

 

I don't think you mean 'clubs like featherstone', I think you mean just Featherstone.

 

I would be very disappointed if featherstone were admitted to Super League at the expense of Toulouse.

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there are already two clubs in super league almost within walking distance of featherstone.

 

 

I don't think you mean 'clubs like featherstone', I think you mean just Featherstone.

 

I would be very disappointed if featherstone were admitted to Super League at the expense of Toulouse.

 

Why not replace Castleford with Featherstone then and admit Toulouse as well, if the proximity of the clubs is your problem with Featherstone been in Super League. Cas have had long enough and not really grown their club and their close rivals have earned their chance. 

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I didn't hear it at all.

it woul;d appear that nobody else did either.

Why wait until now, and why contradict yourself?

 

What did Rimmer say? His performance was highly criticised.

Nobody else heard it at all either but his performance was highly criticised? Right.

He said the SL clubs were leaning towards the two twelves and three eights at present but further options were being discussed also with a firm decision expected before the season's end. He merely confirmed what had been previously said in the RL press. If you disagree try taking it up with him.

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Why not replace Castleford with Featherstone then and admit Toulouse as well, if the proximity of the clubs is your problem with Featherstone been in Super League. Cas have had long enough and not really grown their club and their close rivals have earned their chance.

Maybe

But I still think two is too many

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Nobody else heard it at all either but his performance was highly criticised? Right.

He said the SL clubs were leaning towards the two twelves and three eights at present but further options were being discussed also with a firm decision expected before the season's end. He merely confirmed what had been previously said in the RL press. If you disagree try taking it up with him.

well nobody else has mentioned it until now-including you

so now it's the SL clubs again and it's definite(?)

a couple of posts ago it was' enough of them hopefully.'

 

If I disagree with Rimmer? Well up until now according to you Rimmer and the rest of the people running the sport have been incompetents whose aim in life has been to do your club down. have you taken it up with him?

 

Of course I wont take it up with Rimmer. There are others with more clout, or even any clout at all who will do that.

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It's got absolutely nothing to do with allowing Fev, Leigh and Fax back onto the elite. There's no guarantee any of them will qualify. It's about the nature of the competition and the intensity it will generate.

You've made more comebacks than Frank Sinatra, sadly.

 

Well to continue the musical theme, Featherstone Rovers in a rejigged top flight would sadly be about as intense as Kenny Rogers’ afternoon Glastonbury set.
 
Let’s be clear here, reinstating P&R would result in a more INCLUSIVE competition. Going a different route, a more INTENSE competition would be created by reducing the number of teams and potentially using mergers as a means to create new teams that could operate more competitively and sustainably (this being the route that NRL took in the late 90s).
 
Examples of intense competitions are NRL (again) and NFL, in which any side can win all of the marbles. Examples of inclusive competitions are any of the Euro soccer leagues, in which only a small number of sides can ever triumph and the rest are just happy to line up alongside them.
 
You pays your money and takes your choice (which is why I now only watch NRL) but you are being quite disingenuous with your use of adjectives here. 

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there are already two clubs in super league almost within walking distance of featherstone.

 

 

I don't think you mean 'clubs like featherstone', I think you mean just Featherstone.

 

I would be very disappointed if featherstone were admitted to Super League at the expense of Toulouse.

whats the proximity got to do with it ? should we kick everton out of the premiership them because liverpool is just over the road 

RL is a sport and and teams should be judged on merit not their near neighbours 

why the hell should toulouse be given entry , if they want to play in our league then stick them in the lower divisions and let them prove their worth 

and as for your dissapointment - you would have that of any good news coming out of POR with your agenda`s 

 

did you mention this dissapointment when you picked up the award ? - you have more faces than a town hall clock 

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whats the proximity got to do with it ? should we kick everton out of the premiership them because liverpool is just over the road

RL is a sport and and teams should be judged on merit not their near neighbours

why the hell should toulouse be given entry , if they want to play in our league then stick them in the lower divisions and let them prove their worth

and as for your dissapointment - you would have that of any good news coming out of POR with your agenda`s

did you mention this dissapointment when you picked up the award ? - you have more faces than a town hall clock

Are you seriously comparing soccer with rugby league?

And liverpool fc/Everton with featherstone/Castleford/ Wakefield ?

Soccer is the worlds richest most widespread and popular sport with large rich clubs the length and breadth of the country and of course the rest of the planet Liverpool and Everton are worldwide brands within that.

Toulouse should be given entry because of what they will bring to the competition

As for your personal comments, they just show up your own ignorance

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Well to continue the musical theme, Featherstone Rovers in a rejigged top flight would sadly be about as intense as Kenny Rogers’ afternoon Glastonbury set.

 

Let’s be clear here, reinstating P&R would result in a more INCLUSIVE competition. Going a different route, a more INTENSE competition would be created by reducing the number of teams and potentially using mergers as a means to create new teams that could operate more competitively and sustainably (this being the route that NRL took in the late 90s).

 

Examples of intense competitions are NRL (again) and NFL, in which any side can win all of the marbles. Examples of inclusive competitions are any of the Euro soccer leagues, in which only a small number of sides can ever triumph and the rest are just happy to line up alongside them.

 

You pays your money and takes your choice (which is why I now only watch NRL) but you are being quite disingenuous with your use of adjectives here.

Great post. My thoughts exactly. Past all the hype Premiership soccer is not a great competition. Only two or three teams can win the competition and for those that are neutral it is boring. Predictable and boring.

Soccer in this country, for any number of sensible reasons, isn't the model that other sports should wish to ape.

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Are you seriously comparing soccer with rugby league?

And liverpool fc/Everton with featherstone/Castleford/ Wakefield ?

Soccer is the worlds richest most widespread and popular sport with large rich clubs the length and breadth of the country and of course the rest of the planet Liverpool and Everton are worldwide brands within that.

Toulouse should be given entry because of what they will bring to the competition

As for your personal comments, they just show up your own ignorance

i`ll taken ignorance over two faced arrogance every day of the week 

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i`ll taken ignorance over two faced arrogance every day of the week

Which again shows your ignorance

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