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VIDEO - Swinton v Keighley

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Personally one of the best hits I've seen.

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Personally one of the best hits I've seen.

I agree and Ive looked at it a number of times. Entering the tackle with the ball you tend to duck, macking the tackle you drive up. It just looked like 2 men putting it all in! Weel done to Shickell for getting up!

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Apparently we are very good in training.

 

So why don't we play our opponents when we've got a training session? That way we just might prevail.

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And while we're at it let's mention a 4 game ban for Josh Barlow having been found guilty of biting - pretty disgusting conduct.

"We're".....who's this we?

We are swinton fans discussing a topic

You're a leigh fan delighting in controversy and crying about it on the chambers thread as to why only you are being brought to task

If ever for once in my lifetime you make a point that supports the club /team/ fans I will buy you a pint

If the Mccarthy tackle is so clear to judge why is refereeing rugby so difficult?

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Not at all. That late challenge by Samir Tahraoui was stupidity itself - fortunate to receive only a yellow card.

He should be dropped. Keighley may have gone onto beat us either way, but 3 tries went in whilst he was off the pitch. Not good enough in a game as big as that. It will be tough for us to recover now. I still reckon we need 3 wins (at least).

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Why stop at dropping him? He should be released without further a do

Come on now this is getting silly.

Bring back Dale !

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"We're".....who's this we?

We are swinton fans discussing a topic

You're a leigh fan delighting in controversy and crying about it on the chambers thread as to why only you are being brought to task

If ever for once in my lifetime you make a point that supports the club /team/ fans I will buy you a pint

If the Mccarthy tackle is so clear to judge why is refereeing rugby so difficult?

 

Same old, same old - move off the point and launch a spurious personal attack.

 

Back to the matter in hand.

 

I hold an opinion that RL is a relatively difficult sport to officiate, principally due to the nature of the game and some of its rules - interpretation of which is a vexed subject pretty much every week, despite the top level of the sport having gone further in adopting video technology than most.  The potential for people to see the same events differently in the context of the rules is rife.  Exemplified the disperate views of this tackle that have been expressed on here.

 

To my eyes its clear from the footage (something the referee won't have had the benefit of) that McCarthy made contact with his left shoulder directly into Shickell's jaw = a straightforward act of foul play and a sending off offence.  Other eyes appear to see it differently, c'est la vie - its not unusual!

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Spurious personal attack? Youre no innocent on that score

You must have the best tv in Britain to see that so clearly but as I apparently have to treat your opinion as gospel I'll agree with you or no doubt Mr Drake will be slapping my wrist on your behalf again

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He should be dropped. Keighley may have gone onto beat us either way, but 3 tries went in whilst he was off the pitch. Not good enough in a game as big as that. It will be tough for us to recover now. I still reckon we need 3 wins (at least).

Too far Bryce. He got 10 which may have been the reason, may not but if we adopt that attitude we'd have no team left!

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Same old, same old - move off the point and launch a spurious personal attack.

Back to the matter in hand.

I hold an opinion that RL is a relatively difficult sport to officiate, principally due to the nature of the game and some of its rules - interpretation of which is a vexed subject pretty much every week, despite the top level of the sport having gone further in adopting video technology than most. The potential for people to see the same events differently in the context of the rules is rife. Exemplified the disperate views of this tackle that have been expressed on here.

To my eyes its clear from the footage (something the referee won't have had the benefit of) that McCarthy made contact with his left shoulder directly into Shickell's jaw = a straightforward act of foul play and a sending off offence. Other eyes appear to see it differently, c'est la vie - its not unusual!

Its clear from the footage, and ive paused it, that at point of impact TM had both feet on the ground and drove his shoulder into ASs chest whilst TMs head is buried in ASs left shoulder. The impact along with AS lowering on impact to gain weight in the tackle drove into his upper chest. You cannot tell if contact was definitely made with the head even in slow mo.

Not 1 of the Keighley player complained to the ref at any time nor sought justice for their team mate!

I dont know what they call the opposite of rose tinted spectacles but you may have bought some !

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Its clear from the footage, and ive paused it, that at point of impact TM had both feet on the ground and drove his shoulder into ASs chest whilst TMs head is buried in ASs left shoulder. The impact along with AS lowering on impact to gain weight in the tackle drove into his upper chest. You cannot tell if contact was definitely made with the head even in slow mo.

Not 1 of the Keighley player complained to the ref at any time nor sought justice for their team mate!

I dont know what they call the opposite of rose tinted spectacles but you may have bought some !

 

Either your blue tinted spectacles give you the power of lip reading, even of words spoken "off camera", or you had a direct link to a microphone on the referee, or you're just guessing.  How else can you know what the Keighley players may or may not have said in the middle?

 

Personally I'd say the Keighley side was concentrated on getting the best type of justice - by ensuring they won the match. Seeking physical retribution in such circumstances is generally not a smart move as the probable outcome would have been a game of 12-a-side, at least for 10 minutes.

 

Why be so wound up?  The guy isn't even a Swinton player and with the Wolves reaching the later stages of the Challenge Cup the likelihood is even if Tyrone McCarthy is not banned, Tony Smith will use him for a bit of squad rotation at the Halliwell Jones rather than having him turning out for the Lions.

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Spurious personal attack? Youre no innocent on that score

You must have the best tv in Britain to see that so clearly but as I apparently have to treat your opinion as gospel I'll agree with you or no doubt Mr Drake will be slapping my wrist on your behalf again

 

Sorry to disappoint, but if you were to read all of my preceding post you will see an acceptance that people often see these sorts of things differently and "that's life"... been going on for at least as long as I've followed the game. 

 

As for Mr Drake, he is his own man.  I did note that he had modified one of your references to Dr Koukash that contained an offensive term. In light of the apparent fact that bad language from Keighley supporters made you feel uncomfortable, please accept there is no need for it on here, either.

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Either your blue tinted spectacles give you the power of lip reading, even of words spoken "off camera", or you had a direct link to a microphone on the referee, or you're just guessing. How else can you know what the Keighley players may or may not have said in the middle?

Personally I'd say the Keighley side was concentrated on getting the best type of justice - by ensuring they won the match. Seeking physical retribution in such circumstances is generally not a smart move as the probable outcome would have been a game of 12-a-side, at least for 10 minutes.

Why be so wound up? The guy isn't even a Swinton player and with the Wolves reaching the later stages of the Challenge Cup the likelihood is even if Tyrone McCarthy is not banned, Tony Smith will use him for a bit of squad rotation at the Halliwell Jones rather than having him turning out for the Lions.

A rather typical response from you phillip, dodge the original issue, change the subject matter, ignore the video you first quoted from, have a sly dig etc etc.

You couldnt wind me up with a big stick matey. If it doesnt bother you so much, dont post and dont read.

I will pass on your message to TM and you can explain your comments to him personally if you ever come again. Surely you would!

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Sorry to disappoint, but if you were to read all of my preceding post you will see an acceptance that people often see these sorts of things differently and "that's life"... been going on for at least as long as I've followed the game.

As for Mr Drake, he is his own man. I did note that he had modified one of your references to Dr Koukash that contained an offensive term. In light of the apparent fact that bad language from Keighley supporters made you feel uncomfortable, please accept there is no need for it on here, either.

Please quote where I mention bad language?

I used a very minor swear word which beat the in built swear filter. Rather amazing how Mr Drake found it.

I wonder how that happened?

I won't do it again although I'm amazed how sensitive you've become .

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Either your blue tinted spectacles give you the power of lip reading, even of words spoken "off camera", or you had a direct link to a microphone on the referee, or you're just guessing.  How else can you know what the Keighley players may or may not have said in the middle?

After reviewing the video again I find that indeed 1 Keighley player approached the ref and complained that TM had 'stiff armed' Mr Shickell. Obviously not the case as he was many miles from play and you were about 3 yards from it. Oh, wait a minute, I'm Mr Topsy Turvey!

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Too far Bryce. He got 10 which may have been the reason, may not but if we adopt that attitude we'd have no team left!

Not really, only he did it. Everyone else, including the Keighley players, played with a good temperament and without serious foul play. However you see the McCarthy/Shickell incident, it was not punished and for me, was a standard big hit and from what went after that, there thankfully seemed to be no serious damage to Shickell. End of conversation, crack on with the game, happy days.

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Sounds like the exact description given by the majority of fans on here (who were actually at the game). Correct decision as far as i'm concerned.

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I didn't see anything wrong with it.

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I suppose the referee and linesman have no case to answer. This was at an important stage of the game.

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A clear case of shoulder to the head - i.e. now a banned tackle, for which the precedent is probably a 3 or 4 game ban.

Are you prepared to man up now and offer an apology on your clear case wrong assumption.!

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