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Kear - transfer rumours have caused unrest

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so it's july and we have to practaly write our season off. an absolute disgrace. hang you head in shame EGO.

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so it's july and we have to practaly write our season off. an absolute disgrace. hang you head in shame EGO.

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Come on, please explain why exactly it is the RFL's fault?

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so it's july and we have to practaly write our season off. an absolute disgrace. hang you head in shame EGO.

 

On another thread, posters are speculating about the arrival of Leatherbarrow from Keighley and Brown from York for 2014 - wonder how that might be affecting their club's seasons ?

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It's due to the number of our players heading out the door.

I don't see why the RFL can't just make contract negotiations wait until after the season finishes.

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It's due to the number of our players heading out the door.

I don't see why the RFL can't just make contract negotiations wait until after the season finishes.

 

 

sorry EGO should be RFL.

Its not the rl thats got your club in a mess.

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It's due to the number of our players heading out the door.

I don't see why the RFL can't just make contract negotiations wait until after the season finishes.

 

Sorry MH, but the RFL are merely rubber stamping what the less naïve among us know has been going on for years. Pretty certain the dogs and the rams have been as guilty as most - but not as guilty as some eh Robin ? :onthequiet:

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It's due to the number of our players heading out the door.

I don't see why the RFL can't just make contract negotiations wait until after the season finishes.

 

 

The number of players leaving isn't because of the cut-off though, is it?

 

Don't you think that something else has made them want to leave?

 

Blaming the RFL for everything is a nonsense.

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Well, we plumbed the depths again.  I have followed Batley for 62 years, and in that time, believe me, I have seem some dire stuff served up.  The one redeeming grace, through thick and thin, was that it never felt as if the players couldn't be bothered.  How can a team slump to the degree that ours has in a matter of weeks.  They seem incapable of winning a game. Even when they are ahead with a couple of minutes to go they find a way to throw it away.   

 

I don't go in for coach bashing, or referee bashing -  when it comes down to the basics it is only the players who can make the effort (or not).   Kear says they have been affected by transfer rumours; correct me if I am wrong but aren't they paid professionals?   I am, as you will guess, retired, but I can imagine what my old boss would have said if I stopped bothering to turn up and claimed it was because I was unsettled and thinking about maybe changing jobs.   He would have put any doubt out of my mind as to where my future lay by showing me the door.   Anyone with an ounce of pride would not simply turn up to pocket the pay without even attempting to earn it.     If it was down to me they would not wear the shirt again once they were pre-occupied with moving on.  We couldn't do any worse. 

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Well, we plumbed the depths again.  I have followed Batley for 62 years, and in that time, believe me, I have seem some dire stuff served up.  The one redeeming grace, through thick and thin, was that it never felt as if the players couldn't be bothered.  How can a team slump to the degree that ours has in a matter of weeks.  They seem incapable of winning a game. Even when they are ahead with a couple of minutes to go they find a way to throw it away.   

 

I don't go in for coach bashing, or referee bashing -  when it comes down to the basics it is only the players who can make the effort (or not).   Kear says they have been affected by transfer rumours; correct me if I am wrong but aren't they paid professionals?   I am, as you will guess, retired, but I can imagine what my old boss would have said if I stopped bothering to turn up and claimed it was because I was unsettled and thinking about maybe changing jobs.   He would have put any doubt out of my mind as to where my future lay by showing me the door.   Anyone with an ounce of pride would not simply turn up to pocket the pay without even attempting to earn it.     If it was down to me they would not wear the shirt again once they were pre-occupied with moving on.  We couldn't do any worse. 

You might be in exalted company - fev and fax both losing with 20 to go. If things stay as they are it's going to throw a big cat in the relegation pigeons. :shout: .

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The number of players leaving isn't because of the cut-off though, is it?

 

Don't you think that something else has made them want to leave?

 

Blaming the RFL for everything is a nonsense.

I think the "something else" BSJ is, allegedly, an offer of twice the money they are currently paid/on the table for next year from their current employer. In any walk of life, it is difficult to imagine the individual refusing such an offer.

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We don't have a great fan base at the best of times, but I'm afraid fans are now voting with their feet after the shambles they've seen over the last 6 weeks. Can't really fault them either.

Starting to consider a few weeks off myself and I've barely missed a game this season.

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Absolutely dire. I don't think I've ever seen a team go from one that was pretty dominant against 80% of teams in this division to one that looked so utterly incapable of winning a single match. A stunning turnaround.

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Well, we plumbed the depths again.  I have followed Batley for 62 years, and in that time, believe me, I have seem some dire stuff served up.  The one redeeming grace, through thick and thin, was that it never felt as if the players couldn't be bothered.  How can a team slump to the degree that ours has in a matter of weeks.  They seem incapable of winning a game. Even when they are ahead with a couple of minutes to go they find a way to throw it away.   

 

I don't go in for coach bashing, or referee bashing -  when it comes down to the basics it is only the players who can make the effort (or not).   Kear says they have been affected by transfer rumours; correct me if I am wrong but aren't they paid professionals?   I am, as you will guess, retired, but I can imagine what my old boss would have said if I stopped bothering to turn up and claimed it was because I was unsettled and thinking about maybe changing jobs.   He would have put any doubt out of my mind as to where my future lay by showing me the door.   Anyone with an ounce of pride would not simply turn up to pocket the pay without even attempting to earn it.     If it was down to me they would not wear the shirt again once they were pre-occupied with moving on.  We couldn't do any worse. 

I am not sure I agree that this is just the players fault. John Kear and the coaching team have to take some responsibility.  Kear is a good old fashioned coach, but these days with much more knowledge about fitness regimes and nutrition, the physical abilities of rugby players have to be a done deal. Games are actually won on the game strategies and the psychological fitness of the team. It has been well documented on this forum that some of Kear's gameplays have caused problems all season. Added to this he appears to have lost his leadership of the team and is incapable creating any team spirit or motivation - I am starting to wonder if these is why so many of our lads are leaving  

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You might be in exalted company - fev and fax both losing with 20 to go. If things stay as they are it's going to throw a big cat in the relegation pigeons. :shout: .

 

 

Mark Aston will be laughing his socks off at these results.

 

Sheridan leaving Fev is also having an effect maybe?

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I am not sure I agree that this is just the players fault. John Kear and the coaching team have to take some responsibility.  Kear is a good old fashioned coach, but these days with much more knowledge about fitness regimes and nutrition, the physical abilities of rugby players have to be a done deal. Games are actually won on the game strategies and the psychological fitness of the team. It has been well documented on this forum that some of Kear's gameplays have caused problems all season. Added to this he appears to have lost his leadership of the team and is incapable creating any team spirit or motivation - I am starting to wonder if these is why so many of our lads are leaving  

I agree that the coaching team are also culpable in respect of the lack of motivation and desire.  I am making the point that the players, as professionals, should understand that they are, at least partially, responsible for their approach.  Any professional sportsman has an obligation to present themselves in a fit state to perform, both mentally and physically.  This is an absolute and cannot be subject to whether they feel like bothering or not.  We all have to get our act together when we don't really feel up to it.  That's just life!    

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Mark Aston will be laughing his socks off at these results.

 

Sheridan leaving Fev is also having an effect maybe?

I get the distinct feeling, BSJ, that Mark Aston is not the only one who is taking pleasure from Batley's current malaise.

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I am not sure I agree that this is just the players fault. John Kear and the coaching team have to take some responsibility.  Kear is a good old fashioned coach, but these days with much more knowledge about fitness regimes and nutrition, the physical abilities of rugby players have to be a done deal. Games are actually won on the game strategies and the psychological fitness of the team. It has been well documented on this forum that some of Kear's gameplays have caused problems all season. Added to this he appears to have lost his leadership of the team and is incapable creating any team spirit or motivation - I am starting to wonder if these is why so many of our lads are leaving  

The effort from the Batley players today was good and the performance was alot better than last week but again with ball in hand Batley played  the same one man rugby(even allowing for todays showers during the game) and there are too many players who do not or do not have the ability to pass the ball.Whether this is down to coaching or the ability of the individual players is open to debate.

 

Batley in the first half of the season won games due to being fitter than the opposition. Other teams are now matching Batley's fitness and if you are playing one man rugby with no dummy runners then Batley will continue to struggle to score points.

The frustrating part is Batley have got nothing to lose in throwing the ball around. We cannot be relegated and based on the performances during the first 3/4's of the season we have no chance of making the Grand Final.  

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Shocking att...450 ish. Why?

LOL  at that question....

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Well, we plumbed the depths again.  I have followed Batley for 62 years, and in that time, believe me, I have seem some dire stuff served up.  The one redeeming grace, through thick and thin, was that it never felt as if the players couldn't be bothered.  How can a team slump to the degree that ours has in a matter of weeks.  They seem incapable of winning a game. Even when they are ahead with a couple of minutes to go they find a way to throw it away.   

 

I don't go in for coach bashing, or referee bashing -  when it comes down to the basics it is only the players who can make the effort (or not).   Kear says they have been affected by transfer rumours; correct me if I am wrong but aren't they paid professionals?   I am, as you will guess, retired, but I can imagine what my old boss would have said if I stopped bothering to turn up and claimed it was because I was unsettled and thinking about maybe changing jobs.   He would have put any doubt out of my mind as to where my future lay by showing me the door.   Anyone with an ounce of pride would not simply turn up to pocket the pay without even attempting to earn it.     If it was down to me they would not wear the shirt again once they were pre-occupied with moving on.  We couldn't do any worse. 

There was team spirit back then , players who played with pride and passion but not the most talented, players who stopped with the club 6 or 7 seasons with quite a few serving the club 10 years earning a testimonial such as Ernie Hepworth,John Fox, Ziggy Piwinski or if we did sign anyone with a bit of talent they were sold off  after a couple of seasons to keep the club afloat aka Tommy Martyn and Stan Gittens.

 

And if its the players have been affected by transfer rumours , how come we are the only club that seems to have been affected by it and as an earlier poster tried blaming the RFL .. sorry it doesn't wash , yep it is stupid to allow this to go on with still a lot to play for, but doesn't seem to affect the form of any other club.. maybe its something deeper than that and the silence from the club is deafening, as fans who  help pay the players wages ,we have a right to know whats going on.

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Shocking att...450 ish. Why?

TBF this rounds att in the championship were poor bar Oldham who got 1200.

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I get the distinct feeling, BSJ, that Mark Aston is not the only one who is taking pleasure from Batley's current malaise.

 

 

I'm not one of them if that's what you mean. I can't even spell schadenfreude!

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