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Great news about Base Camp. Returned to Lukla via the main route to Everest from Dingboche. It's pretty amazing but tough; much steeper than you think. Hygiene is massively important so make sure you are on top it! :D Give us a PM if you need any tips etc.

 

 

As for the Californian wilderness, that sounds a brilliant trip. Mega jealous!

 

 

 

Might have to take you up on that!  Main concern is the fitness required.  I'm not the fittest (but lost 20kgs so far this year) but can walk 12-14 miles with a pack in lowland UK.  Lacking hills round here to walk up!

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Might have to take you up on that!  Main concern is the fitness required.  I'm not the fittest (but lost 20kgs so far this year) but can walk 12-14 miles with a pack in lowland UK.  Lacking hills round here to walk up!

 

Don't worry too much about fitness. It is arduous of course but I saw plenty of 'old' people walking towards base camp. The real issue you'll have is adapting to the altitude. You'll go from 1500m in Kathmandu to 2800m at Lukla in about an hour. Kala Patthar is then at 5500m near base camp. There are some steep sections in places i.e. approach to Namche Bazaar and Tengboche and the key is going at your own comfortable pace without becoming breathless (or too much!). If it takes you all day to do a section, so be it. Despite that, it is definitely worth it. Everest itself is pretty spectacular, as is Ama Damblam. However, for me, Lhotse was the pick; an amazing mountain.

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Don't worry too much about fitness. It is arduous of course but I saw plenty of 'old' people walking towards base camp. The real issue you'll have is adapting to the altitude. You'll go from 1500m in Kathmandu to 2800m at Lukla in about an hour. Kala Patthar is then at 5500m near base camp. There are some steep sections in places i.e. approach to Namche Bazaar and Tengboche and the key is going at your own comfortable pace without becoming breathless (or too much!). If it takes you all day to do a section, so be it. Despite that, it is definitely worth it. Everest itself is pretty spectacular, as is Ama Damblam. However, for me, Lhotse was the pick; an amazing mountain.

Thanks.  I've wanted to do it for years, but it was always an 'i'll do it next year' thing.  Next is actually going to be the year!

 

I'll probably try a bit of Diamox for a helping hand!

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I'll probably try a bit of Diamox for a helping hand!

 

Only take it if you start to get headaches. Usually takes a day or so take effect and boy do you need to use the toilet often i.e peeing all night; not an attractive proposition at 5000m! :D

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Two areas that are fairly wild and unvisited in the UK are Torridon in Northwest Scotland and Otterburn/Kielder in Northumberland; both beautiful and remote locations.

 

In 1983 I did my undergraduate geological mapping project on Raasay in the Hebrides and spent 8 weeks there.  When you climbed to the higher points, if you looked West the view was the Cuillin on Skye, built of igneous rock that is younger than the dinosaurs (65M yrs).  When you looked East, the view was over Torridon, its red sandstone (1000M+ yrs) predates the earliest "macrofossils" such as trilobites etc. Incredible.

 

Raasay was great, most of the islanders were Scottish Gaelic speakers who would always switch to English when we were around. Most were Free Presbyterians or Free Church of Scotland - Sunday observance was very important to them. 

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Don't worry too much about fitness. It is arduous of course but I saw plenty of 'old' people walking towards base camp. The real issue you'll have is adapting to the altitude. You'll go from 1500m in Kathmandu to 2800m at Lukla in about an hour. Kala Patthar is then at 5500m near base camp. There are some steep sections in places i.e. approach to Namche Bazaar and Tengboche and the key is going at your own comfortable pace without becoming breathless (or too much!). If it takes you all day to do a section, so be it. Despite that, it is definitely worth it. Everest itself is pretty spectacular, as is Ama Damblam. However, for me, Lhotse was the pick; an amazing mountain.

 

Nepal is spectacular.  Had a great time, with 2 nights camping at the base camp.  Stunning views! 

 

And I climbed Kala Pattar so am virtually a mountaineer!

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I live four miles south of Mablethorpe.....remote in time and space.

been sand racing a few times at Mapplethorpe , in winter , good beach .

also use to go bait digging(spurn) , walk out from Crown and Anchor onto the worm beds dig for a few hours then get back before tide rushed in .

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In Aussie terms it's probably not isolated, but I recently drove from Berri to Adelaide in the middle of the night on my own.  After an hour or so I pulled over at a rest stop to take a break and got out of the car.     Dead quiet, no other traffic on the road, millions of stars in the sky.  Just beautiful.  It was a pity to get back underway.

I spent three months visiting friends in Western Australia.  Lots of remoteness there!  I'd include standing on the beach at the bottom of the state, looking out on to the Southern Ocean knowing that the next landmass is Antarctica. 

 

But I also thought Glen Coe in Scotland pretty remote too, especially when the weather was bad and I was low on petrol wondering whether I would make it through to civilisation before the car stalled!

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Nepal is spectacular.  Had a great time, with 2 nights camping at the base camp.  Stunning views! 

 

And I climbed Kala Pattar so am virtually a mountaineer!

 

:D

 

Well done; glad you enjoyed it! Doing anything is hard work above 5000m so that's a great effort! How was the flight into Lukla?

 

So what's your next challenge? Mt Blanc next Sep? ;)

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Don't suppose anyone on here's been to the Isle of Coll up in the Hebrides? It appears my little brother who went AWOL some years back is living up there and is engaged to a Scottish girly.

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:D

 

Well done; glad you enjoyed it! Doing anything is hard work above 5000m so that's a great effort! How was the flight into Lukla?

 

So what's your next challenge? Mt Blanc next Sep? ;)

The flight was great, not sure everyone else agreed!  Didn't have any AMS, so I think I'm part Sherpa...

 

Next Challenge is the John Muir Trail in September, maybe Kilimanjaro in Feb...then Greenland?  Stok Kangri?  Ideas!

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I spent three months visiting friends in Western Australia.  Lots of remoteness there!  I'd include standing on the beach at the bottom of the state, looking out on to the Southern Ocean knowing that the next landmass is Antarctica. 

 

But I also thought Glen Coe in Scotland pretty remote too, especially when the weather was bad and I was low on petrol wondering whether I would make it through to civilisation before the car stalled!

 

Just love Glen Coe. For anyone energetic, you can climb up to a cave where there is a visitors book to be signed. That said, it was some years ago since I went through the area so not sure if a book is still there. 

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The flight was great, not sure everyone else agreed!  Didn't have any AMS, so I think I'm part Sherpa...

 

Next Challenge is the John Muir Trail in September, maybe Kilimanjaro in Feb...then Greenland?  Stok Kangri?  Ideas!

 

I loved the flight too but a few weren't in my stick; pansies! :D I got quite a bad headache at 5000m when I was in the Mera valley; dropped back to 4200m that day and was fine after that reaching just shy of 6500m on Mera itself (first ever ice climb to the summit - it was only 15m but I was beyond hooped...!).

 

Managed to tick off Kilimanjaro in 2010; went via the Rongai route, which was far more relaxed and an extra day in length than the Marangu Route etc. I enjoyed the trip but the summit night is a right old slog up a 1000m scree slope in the dark... views are worth it from Gilman's and Uhuru Peak though...!

 

Stok Kangri would be a good choice as it is just over 6000m and on snow and ice... I'd avoid anything in Pakistan if you can avoid it; I'd love to head into the Karakoram's but Pakistan is very dangerous at the moment... Do you have much experience on the stuff using crampons and an ice axe? I am getting better with them and intending to climb Mt Blanc in late Aug/early Sep 2015 before potentially having a crack at either Denali or a 7000m peak in 2017. So how funds and the personal life are closer to the time though...

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I loved the flight too but a few weren't in my stick; pansies! :D I got quite a bad headache at 5000m when I was in the Mera valley; dropped back to 4200m that day and was fine after that reaching just shy of 6500m on Mera itself (first ever ice climb to the summit - it was only 15m but I was beyond hooped...!).

 

Managed to tick off Kilimanjaro in 2010; went via the Rongai route, which was far more relaxed and an extra day in length than the Marangu Route etc. I enjoyed the trip but the summit night is a right old slog up a 1000m scree slope in the dark... views are worth it from Gilman's and Uhuru Peak though...!

 

Stok Kangri would be a good choice as it is just over 6000m and on snow and ice... I'd avoid anything in Pakistan if you can avoid it; I'd love to head into the Karakoram's but Pakistan is very dangerous at the moment... Do you have much experience on the stuff using crampons and an ice axe? I am getting better with them and intending to climb Mt Blanc in late Aug/early Sep 2015 before potentially having a crack at either Denali or a 7000m peak in 2017. So how funds and the personal life are closer to the time though...

 

Never used ice axe and crampons, just a walker really but I will do a course in Scotland at some point.  You are well on the way to the 7 highest in 7 continents (or will be soon).

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My grandmother's uncle was reburied next the Shackleton's grave a few years ago. My mother visited and placed some stuff on Frank's grave for the family. She said it is absolutely beautiful there. She also loved the Falklands whe she was invited to the Governors house for a feed.

Two areas that are fairly wild and unvisited in the UK are Torridon in Northwest Scotland and Otterburn/Kielder in Northumberland; both beautiful and remote locations.

Work-wise, I have had the pleasure of Afghanistan and the hell-hole that was Sangin. If there was no people (both locals and military forces), it has the potential to be a paradise but sadly it isn't. Also been to some remote areas in Kenya, which were pretty desolate and hardly anything lives in the Darfur Mountains in Oman. However, the wildest place I have ever been in South Georgia. I managed to get out on a Naval patrol during my recent tour to the South Atlantic and it was a wild and treachrous journey on the Southern Ocean but very much worth it to visit Shackleton's grave at Gritvyken and go climbing in the surrounding mountains. The Falklands was pretty remote and spectacular too; I'd live there if it was closer to the UK.

During my recent post-tour leave, I went climbing in the Himalayas. I climbed Mera and Island Peak in Nepal trekking through some very remote valleys; the poverty and sense of isolation was rife. Nepalis are a very hardy bunch. Southeast Iceland is pretty remote but stunning too as is inner-Sweden; did a winter dog sledding trek around the Osterstund wilderness in 2009. Amazing!

My next wilderness trip is hopefully climbing a 7000m peak in the Karakoram Mountains in Pakistan (2015 hopefully). Not sure I'll get clearance with the recent killings by fundamentalists on Nanga Parbat in Jun (?) but will try to get there.

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I'm spending all next week in Scotland. Does that count?

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How about a day on Dartmoor?

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Never used ice axe and crampons, just a walker really but I will do a course in Scotland at some point. You are well on the way to the 7 highest in 7 continents (or will be soon).

They aren't too difficult to use unless on technical climbs; crossing crevasses are always a bit daunting, especially if you the 'monkey' at the front... exciting though...

I had hoped to do the 7 Summits but ridiculously expensive with Everest and Vinson both being way over £20k; the Pyramid in the Pacific is nearly £10k too... I had been due to attempt Aconcagua in 2012 but got sent to the Falklands; no chance I'd have got across to the mountain! :)

My grandmother's uncle was reburied next the Shackleton's grave a few years ago. My mother visited and placed some stuff on Frank's grave for the family. She said it is absolutely beautiful there. She also loved the Falklands whe she was invited to the Governors house for a feed.

I have a nice picture of both graves; South Georgia was epic - an absolute wilderness but utterly breathtaking. It is tough to get to with an 18hr flight to Mount Pleasant followed by a 3.5 day voyage by ship on rough seas; I was on ice watch during the night and thankfully never missed any!

Stanley is a truly idyllic little town overlooking the harbour with the Mt Longdon, Two Sisters etc in the background. Government House overlooks the harbour and still bears the scars of the 1982 conflict, as does much of the islands... If you ever get chance to visit, jump at the chance as the South Atlantic is an amazing location.

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Brussels felt quite isolated at times. But for isolation I would say a slit trench near suffield at 3 in the morning in -35 degrees. Medman 7, 1989 with Royal Irish battle group. Worst of it was, we could hear the pizza delivery drivers in medicine hat 150 k away over the radio and we were living on compo rations.

Parts of the GR20 in Corsica were awesome. 3 days walk to the nearest road.

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