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Legal Status of the NCL with the RFL

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What is the legal status of the NCL with regards to the RFL after the RFL & Community Board agreed to use the following definitions to describe leagues at tier 3 & 4 operating in the community group.

 

1/ RFL Member league or 2/ RFL Affiliated league

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What is the legal status of the NCL with regards to the RFL after the RFL & Community Board agreed to use the following definitions to describe leagues at tier 3 & 4 operating in the community group.

 

1/ RFL Member league or 2/ RFL Affiliated league

I believe the NCL is an "Affiliated League" - and I guess that means we are in control of our own destiny. I'm happy with that. How about you?

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The NCL will not sell their soul to the RFL, they will be affiliated.

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I think that you'll find that full time has been called on their independence and they're all "souled" out my old whistle-blower.

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Definition 1  RFL Member League 

A League wholly operated by the RFL eg Yorkshire Mens League

 

Defintion 2   RFL Affilated League

A League that has a seperate legal status to the RFL but is affilated to the RFL thorough one of the bodies of the RFL Community Board. eg BARLA with the Pennine League

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No, NCL will be an RFL Member League, it is quite clear in the letter sent out

If you look at the letter it has purposely left the NCL off of any definition 9Seems strange as it's the flagship) but added certain leagues to the definitions !!!

Could this just be a the smoke screen to hide the truth of where the NCL Committee's loyalties lie ? you know the old saying out of sight out of mind.

 

The letter does say over the last 18 months considerable changes have been made in the way leagues have been managed and administrated by the RFL, Lets be truthful here, who are the leading figures within the Community Board and who do they represent even if they did :jester: do have independent views.

Is there a legal reason why the English Schools are affiliated to the second definition ?

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The NCL will not sell their soul to the RFL, they will be affiliated.

You mean like a double agent ? or to safe guard the Arnolds?

 

If as I suspect the RFL will start to offer friends with benefits even more benefits to definition 1 and your saying the NCL will be definition 2, well you know where I'm going with this one don't you. :ph34r:

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The letter does say over the last 18 months considerable changes have been made in the way leagues have been managed and administrated by the RFL, Lets be truthful here, who are the leading figures within the Community Board and who do they represent even if they did :jester: do have independent views.

 

You could look on the RFL website to find out who sits on the board and who they represent but I suspect you know who exactly they are.

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You could look on the RFL website to find out who sits on the board and who they represent but I suspect you know who exactly they are.

I do and I'm still baffled on how some got there :airkiss: unless there has been a lot of string pulling or creeping  :hi: because these guys are just being used to be the cheap butchers to gain the elite amateur clubs  :butcher: You only have to see where they cut funding and once they got the NCL on board and which clubs have and will benefit the most from the operational rules/guidelines to the loss of identification, the rest (pub teams) will be cut adrift.

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A couple of warmers into the bank to aim you in the right direction to which definition 1 or 2 the NCL have their sights set, who is in control of the NCL website (I don't mean the Vichy government either) who can actually take complete control at the flick of a switch ? Who's computer software is getting blamed for fouling up this seasons NCL fixtures when the back of a fag packet would have sufficed and where do the RFL rep's site at a NCL meeting ? 

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The NCL is an Affiliated Tier 3 League as opposed to Conference South , which is a Member League 

 

The NCL management committee is the Management group appointed to run the competition . The composition  of the Management Committee is governed by the NCL constitution , which provides for elections by the members at AGM. The Committee is ultimately responsible to the member clubs for what it does.. It is elected by them and can be removed by them - who actually controls the NCL should therefore be pretty obvious to all except those who do not want to see.........

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The NCL is an Affiliated Tier 3 League as opposed to Conference South , which is a Member League 

 

The NCL management committee is the Management group appointed to run the competition . The composition  of the Management Committee is governed by the NCL constitution , which provides for elections by the members at AGM. The Committee is ultimately responsible to the member clubs for what it does.. It is elected by them and can be removed by them - who actually controls the NCL should therefore be pretty obvious to all except those who do not want to see.........

So are the Yorkshire Mens League, NW Mens League, NE Mens League etc, they are run the way you explain the NCL is.

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The NCL is an Affiliated Tier 3 League as opposed to Conference South , which is a Member League 

 

The NCL management committee is the Management group appointed to run the competition . The composition  of the Management Committee is governed by the NCL constitution , which provides for elections by the members at AGM. The Committee is ultimately responsible to the member clubs for what it does.. It is elected by them and can be removed by them - who actually controls the NCL should therefore be pretty obvious to all except those who do not want to see.........

Does that mean the Operational rules have been signed with strings attached or you will abided by the operational rules to gain benefits but will not sign them ?

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Does that mean the Operational rules have been signed with strings attached or you will abided by the operational rules to gain benefits but will not sign them ?

I have no doubt Marauder that the NCL really can take care of themselves. You shouldn't worry so much about us dear. However, I am getting worried about you: you really must get a life.

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So are the Yorkshire Mens League, NW Mens League, NE Mens League etc, they are run the way you explain the NCL is.

 

In short don't think so.... but this isn't a forum for those leagues, that'll be the community forum

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Peter has already stated on a earlier thread that in its present state no one should agree to the OR .

They are at the moment just draft rules and all leagues have the right to challenge and offer amendments .

Wether the RFL listen to any objections and amend is another matter , but as they stand at the moment there are numerous points which our little league will be objecting to .

What I won't become is an unpaid worker for the RFL I do what I do for the love of the game and if I am going to have my hands tied behind my back and told how give up my time by having to be tied to a dictatorial bible then it's a good bye from me .

The RFL can't run the amateur game without the help and cooperation of us volunteers just look at the mess they made of the National youth league as an example .

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In short don't think so.... but this isn't a forum for those leagues, that'll be the community forum

Your wrong there Spidey the NCL is the pinnacle amateur league and the clubs in the NCL have teams that play in those leagues .

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Your wrong there Spidey the NCL is the pinnacle amateur league and the clubs in the NCL have teams that play in those leagues .

 

They should have teams, but they don;t have to.   A youth team suffices nowadays which is a shame IMO

 

I wasn't saying they are not important, however this was a debate of the NCL and its set up, which i believe is ran well, how the other leagues are ran are a separate issue  (although by nature can have an impact)

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No this is a debate as it says of the legal Status of the NCL with the RFL and nothing to do with how it is run (which I agree is very well) which as you say is a separate issue.

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The NCL is an Affiliated Tier 3 League as opposed to Conference South , which is a Member League 

 

The NCL management committee is the Management group appointed to run the competition . The composition  of the Management Committee is governed by the NCL constitution , which provides for elections by the members at AGM. The Committee is ultimately responsible to the member clubs for what it does.. It is elected by them and can be removed by them - who actually controls the NCL should therefore be pretty obvious to all except those who do not want to see.........

 

Considering that the NCL has at least one full time RFL employee concentrating their efforts on NCL business you get the feel of how independently run the NCL is. What we must remember in this is that there's no such thing as a free lunch.

 

And who represents the NCL on the RFL Community Del Boy, are they an affiliate member through BARLA as they remain associate to that organisation.

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I have no doubt Marauder that the NCL really can take care of themselves. You shouldn't worry so much about us dear. However, I am getting worried about you: you really must get a life.

I've got a life, I've been to Stratford-upon-Avon today to check on a job, tendered for another job and took my lad to Barnsley for boxing training, still time to go out for a couple of jars if I wanted :)

 

Lets not forget what happens at the top normally filters down and if all the twists, turns & facts aren't made visible  then the blind can be lead just about anywhere.

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They should have teams, but they don;t have to.   A youth team suffices nowadays which is a shame IMO

 

I wasn't saying they are not important, however this was a debate of the NCL and its set up, which i believe is ran well, how the other leagues are ran are a separate issue  (although by nature can have an impact)

From your own admission you've highlighted what we all know that clubs `A` team's and youth teams have been propping the game up at a rate that was never seen during the winter, you've also stated that many clubs aren't really running `A` teams, in this case the burden to fill the first team's team sheet will fall on the clubs youth system, bearing in mind that the youth game is also reporting a shortage of players, this is a rule that's in the draft copy of the operational rules at the moment

 

Operational Rule C 1:5:2

 

A player shall be registered by the club by completing a registration form. Any player under the age of 18 requires a parent/guardian signature confirming that both player and the parent/guardian understand that some sections of the RFL Safeguarding Policy do not apply to open age Rugby League.

 

A player may only play for the open age team if their own age group can fulfil fixtures.

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