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Keighley Cougars v Batley Bulldogs

Cougar Park

Ref: T Alibert

Touch J: R Thompson

Touch J: C Hancock

Reserve: J Stearne

M Com: P Crashley

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Can't wait to see him flapping around in confusion without his video referee. This should be fun.

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Christ it just gets worse clueless lawton to thierry clueso all we need now is jamie i hate batley leathey for are playoffs sorry for being negstive but when we played london was totaly inempt just like kline when he started out rfl officals are total disgrace . Instead of sorting leauges out sort the officals out that would help everyone .

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Christ it just gets worse clueless lawton to thierry clueso all we need now is jamie i hate batley leathey for are playoffs sorry for being negstive but when we played london was totaly inempt just like kline when he started out rfl officals are total disgrace . Instead of sorting leauges out sort the officals out that would help everyone .

 

 

It's best to get your excuses in early isn't it?

 

Refereeing standards haven't got worse over the years, despite what some people think. Their idiosyncrasies have always been a part of TGG.

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Their idiosyncrasies have always been a part of TGG.

 

At it again with the big words BSJ, trying to catch us out in Batley with your clever talk! Well it won't work and Whatever was wrong with "The Great Gatsby" us folk in batley have been jabbed against Idiosynrasies so we'll be OK :bad:

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Sorry but thats rubbish u watch the nrl and its so more consistant and clear interpertations of the rules. As in our leauges is totaly incosistant week in week out or even desion to decsion so totaly disagree these people get paid to do there job if i was so incosistant week in week out i wouldnt have a job . If you complain to the powers that be they dont give u time of day or give u a even more inconsistant ref . My point is if u cant get the officals right how can u run the leagues . I have been putting up with this for 21 years now and in that time it asnt got better .

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Sorry but thats rubbish u watch the nrl and its so more consistant and clear interpertations of the rules. As in our leauges is totaly incosistant week in week out or even desion to decsion so totaly disagree these people get paid to do there job if i was so incosistant week in week out i wouldnt have a job . If you complain to the powers that be they dont give u time of day or give u a even more inconsistant ref . My point is if u cant get the officals right how can u run the leagues . I have been putting up with this for 21 years now and in that time it asnt got better .

Come off it, you're seriously comparing refereeing standards in the NRL to the part-time Championship?? Granted, some referees are better than others, but in 99.9% of games its the players - not the referee, who have the most influence on results. We can't blame a single loss this season on a refereeing performance. As I've said before, if you leave a game feeling enraged at the 'injustice' your side has been done by an official, try giving the DVD a viewing. Its amazing how much they actually get right, and how much your judgement is clouded by terrace fever during a game.

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Maybe but not just champipnship refs but super league refs as well the standard across the game is poor . The rfl put time and money to improve kline and he up and went to the nrl . Making rfl a laughing stock we improve them then they go to nrl .

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Maybe but not just champipnship refs but super league refs as well the standard across the game is poor . The rfl put time and money to improve kline and he up and went to the nrl . Making rfl a laughing stock we improve them then they go to nrl .

So one referee (Australian-born at that) leaves to join the NRL and the RFL are suddenly a laughing stock? The RFL ARE a laughing stock, but not because Ashley Klein decided to return to his native country. I've seen around 50-odd SL games these season, and only the Ganson howler at Magic Weekend stands out as a decision that negatively affected a result. I just can't see where you're coming from, and what you're basing your argument on?

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Its fustration of having poor officals that dont let the game flow like it should imo thats all. Also having seen with own eyes the refs officiater watching the ref performance only to be our ref week after who i did approach to explain to me how the ref could make a decsion so blatley wrong that he couldnt answer me . Then while refing us the week after picked up on everything the ref previosly missed week before ie play of the ball but wasny consistant for both sides imho him watching us the week before made him more biast with knowing what to watch out for with us .but not the other side which gave them a advantage .

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Its fustration of having poor officals that dont let the game flow like it should imo thats all. Also having seen with own eyes the refs officiater watching the ref performance only to be our ref week after who i did approach to explain to me how the ref could make a decsion so blatley wrong that he couldnt answer me . Then while refing us the week after picked up on everything the ref previosly missed week before ie play of the ball but wasny consistant for both sides imho him watching us the week before made him more biast with knowing what to watch out for with us .but not the other side which gave them a advantage .

 

I'm sorry but this anti ref stuff is nonsense. Ref's really are no worse than previously, and to blame them before the match has even been played is clearly ridiculous. I can accept that it's part of the fun to have a go if your team lose, but within reason. If all supporters are to believed, there is a secret cabal of referees who get together and decide that they are going to stop certain teams from winning. It's amazing to me that when I watch Batley the ref seems totally against us, but when I watch the DVD they are invariably right.

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This maybe so but y give us thierry cluso after having lawton for two matches back to back i also recall a time batley complained to the rfl about the previos weeks ref only to get a super league ref only to be totaly penilised out the gsme true they might have beem genuine penaltys but only one way ??? So imo batley have maybe complained to the rfl only to be given some one who could make amature refs look good . Not ref bashing just pointing out what i believe is what is wrong with the game.

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This maybe so but y give us thierry cluso after having lawton for two matches back to back i also recall a time batley complained to the rfl about the previos weeks ref only to get a super league ref only to be totaly penilised out the gsme true they might have beem genuine penaltys but only one way ??? So imo batley have maybe complained to the rfl only to be given some one who could make amature refs look good . Not ref bashing just pointing out what i believe is what is wrong with the game.

Sounds like ref bashing to me.

You must be the old guy who sits in the long stand side, just sits there and abuses the referee all game.

Refereeing isnt great, but be fair, Ronnie LAUGHTON didnt lose us either of the last two games.

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Old guy lol not yet and may sound it but just trying to put my point across and and no thats not me your on about lol

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Well ok maybe i am i supose lol but hey it better than player bashing for achange lol

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Having watched RL since 1961, I can tell you that refereeing standards ARE poor, and remember those refs had to ref the whole game and give decisions in an instant and they were respected for it. And before anybody else says it, this isn't getting excuses in before the game- Alibert is poor, we had him in the London cup game 2 seasons ago and he was terrible. There were other referees in attendance at that match, no names, no pack drill, who couldn't believe the way he performed, and he definitely didn't want to be the man in the middle when a championship club put a SL side on its' backside. However, I can imagine that all SL refs would always look out for the SL sides in an inter division game, as they have to ref SL the week after and couldn't take the flak. So, I can say with conviction that on Sunday that neither side can expect a scintillating performance from the ref.

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Having watched RL since 1961, I can tell you that refereeing standards ARE poor, and remember those refs had to ref the whole game and give decisions in an instant and they were respected for it. And before anybody else says it, this isn't getting excuses in before the game- Alibert is poor, we had him in the London cup game 2 seasons ago and he was terrible. There were other referees in attendance at that match, no names, no pack drill, who couldn't believe the way he performed, and he definitely didn't want to be the man in the middle when a championship club put a SL side on its' backside. However, I can imagine that all SL refs would always look out for the SL sides in an inter division game, as they have to ref SL the week after and couldn't take the flak. So, I can say with conviction that on Sunday that neither side can expect a scintillating performance from the ref.

 

So just to be absolutely clear here, you are categorically saying that you believe that referees would cheat to ensure that a SL team would not lose to a Championship side?

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Sounds like ref bashing to me.

You must be the old guy who sits in the long stand side, just sits there and abuses the referee all game.

Refereeing isnt great, but be fair, Ronnie LAUGHTON didnt lose us either of the last two games.

 

but in 99.9% of games its the players - not the referee, who have the most influence on results. We can't blame a single loss this season on a refereeing performance. As I've said before, if you leave a game feeling enraged at the 'injustice' your side has been done by an official, try giving the DVD a viewing. Its amazing how much they actually get right, and how much your judgement is clouded by terrace fever during a game.

 

TIn hat at the ready, sorry lads but I have to disagree with you there. If Laughton had done his job and seen the blatant offside for Workington's final try we wouldn't have lost the game last Sunday. We are not talking inches in it, the guy who picked up the ball was a good 2 yards off side.

 

Leatherbarrow has also made crucial poor decisions against us this season too.

 

The first one was in the Featherstone match at home where broke away and were clear, when he blew up to say no advantage, he apologised after the game because it was a shocking decision.

 

The second in the Sheffield match at home, where we scored after Sheffield stole the ball with 2 in the tackle and we dived on the ball over the line, which he blew for knock on.

 

Call it ref bashing if you want, but the fact is, we lost those 3 games by 6 points or less. If the ref had made the correct decision on each of those occasions, we would not have lost those games. These 3 decisions in particular were not even 50/50 calls, where you can look at them with an element of doubt, they were obvious to everyone in the ground other than the man making the decision.

 

Whilst I agree that fans get caught up in the moment at games, I viewed both of the latter 2 on DVD after the games, and there simply is no doubt that they were dreadfully incorrect calls.

 

As for 99% of games being decided by players, 2 of the games above have happened in the last 6 so that's a third of our losing run decided by the man in the middle. 

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TIn hat at the ready, sorry lads but I have to disagree with you there. If Laughton had done his job and seen the blatant offside for Workington's final try we wouldn't have lost the game last Sunday. We are not talking inches in it, the guy who picked up the ball was a good 2 yards off .

If you have the stomach to sit through it again give BISSA a fiver and watch it come off the Batley man first, leaving Workington free to make their merry way to the try line.

As for theSheffield game, they have developed a way to effectively play the ref and have done so for years, and we lost that due to being kicked to death by Walker and Brambani.

Unfortunately for far too many of our fans, we seem to blame the referees for our own failings, as far too often we are the ones pushing the big red self destruct button with unforced errors and bad discipline.

Not saying the referees are never weong, they do make mistakes, but theres got to be some rational perspective at times.

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Not forgetting there'll have also been many refereeing decisions which have gone in our favour this season - ones that we probably haven't even noticed. The phrase 'swings and roundabouts' might be an overused cliche, but in a sporting context it's eminently applicable. Remember the Hunslet away game this season?

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i do think we need to forget about refs calls as nowt can be changed after the event anyways,if we are having some bad calls go against us then we simply should crack on with the game and beat the opposition and the ref too by decent play, stop any silly bits a play or cheap shots that give them the ball back.play anything like we did against the giants and nobody will live with our team as it was, bit a fire and passion for our next game will do for me,aint too fussed to lose to be honest even thou it does hurt. if we come off pitch looking like we tried for 80 minutes then that will do me fine.,

  see yers at keighley. 22.16 to the dogs.

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If you have the stomach to sit through it again give BISSA a fiver and watch it come off the Batley man first, leaving Workington free to make their merry way to the try line.

As for theSheffield game, they have developed a way to effectively play the ref and have done so for years, and we lost that due to being kicked to death by Walker and Brambani.

Unfortunately for far too many of our fans, we seem to blame the referees for our own failings, as far too often we are the ones pushing the big red self destruct button with unforced errors and bad discipline.

Not saying the referees are never weong, they do make mistakes, but theres got to be some rational perspective at times.

 

lol I don't think I honestly could sit through it again, it was pretty grim the first time round, watching it again must be some kind sadism. You're a better man than I, if you stomach it a 2nd time. On the final try I'll take your word for it, but if it came off our man first, then off there man it was still offside surely?

 

Totally agree with your final sentence, I'm still perplexed why Hemingway decided to put the kick through when he did. We were in front, seconds left and we just needed to kill the game, that type of kick was absolutely suicidal.

 

I honestly do not believe we deserved anything from either game, with the way we played we got what we deserved, but despite Sheffield's kicking superiority in the home game, I'm afraid however you cut it, the deciding factor of that match was the try that was not given.

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