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Will the World Cup 2013 be a flop?

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I hope so and I will be attending many games as my part in supporting the tournament. The organisation from the launch event to the early ticketing, the cup tour, somewhat akin to the Olympic flame event on a smaller scale, the host city concept, adding expertise and local assistance for free, to the volunteer programme and the wise decision to give France a couple of games at home and the decision to boost Wales by pairing their fixture with an Aussie/England game and an opening ceremony are all new and innovative approaches to the World Cup and far superior to anything ever attempted at any previous World Cup in this country.

 

The fact that the final, even though it may yet turn out not to have England in it, has equalled or exceeded the attendance from 2000 already is another plus. The fact that we have a goodly number of games on national terrestrial TV,i.e. the BBC, is also a great move especially given the kudos being given to their coverage of the game in the Challenge cup in recent weeks.

 

The semi final double header is a bit of a gamble but we have to have some games in the capital and by holding the final at Old Trafford we can bounce back from any low attendance there. Given the last RL double header at Wembley attracted over 40,000 there is reason for optimism and an opportunity for our new fans from Hemel to Oxford to Gloucester and London itself to have an opportunity to support a prestigious fixture somewhat closer to home than the Northern heartlands.

 

I am looking forward to it as maybe a swansong to a long life supporting this great game and for me personally it will be a great success, hopefully crowned by an England win as topping on the cake.

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I hope so and I will be attending many games as my part in supporting the tournament. The organisation from the launch event to the early ticketing, the cup tour, somewhat akin to the Olympic flame event on a smaller scale, the host city concept, adding expertise and local assistance for free, to the volunteer programme and the wise decision to give France a couple of games at home and the decision to boost Wales by pairing their fixture with an Aussie/England game and an opening ceremony are all new and innovative approaches to the World Cup and far superior to anything ever attempted at any previous World Cup in this country.

The fact that the final, even though it may yet turn out not to have England in it, has equalled or exceeded the attendance from 2000 already is another plus. The fact that we have a goodly number of games on national terrestrial TV,i.e. the BBC, is also a great move especially given the kudos being given to their coverage of the game in the Challenge cup in recent weeks.

The semi final double header is a bit of a gamble but we have to have some games in the capital and by holding the final at Old Trafford we can bounce back from any low attendance there. Given the last RL double header at Wembley attracted over 40,000 there is reason for optimism and an opportunity for our new fans from Hemel to Oxford to Gloucester and London itself to have an opportunity to support a prestigious fixture somewhat closer to home than the Northern heartlands.

I am looking forward to it as maybe a swansong to a long life supporting this great game and for me personally it will be a great success, hopefully crowned by an England win as topping on the cake.

That is a fantastic post.... if all rl fans had this attitude towards the World Cup the rest of the world would have to take notice

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I hope so and I will be attending many games as my part in supporting the tournament. The organisation from the launch event to the early ticketing, the cup tour, somewhat akin to the Olympic flame event on a smaller scale, the host city concept, adding expertise and local assistance for free, to the volunteer programme and the wise decision to give France a couple of games at home and the decision to boost Wales by pairing their fixture with an Aussie/England game and an opening ceremony are all new and innovative approaches to the World Cup and far superior to anything ever attempted at any previous World Cup in this country.

 

The fact that the final, even though it may yet turn out not to have England in it, has equalled or exceeded the attendance from 2000 already is another plus. The fact that we have a goodly number of games on national terrestrial TV,i.e. the BBC, is also a great move especially given the kudos being given to their coverage of the game in the Challenge cup in recent weeks.

 

The semi final double header is a bit of a gamble but we have to have some games in the capital and by holding the final at Old Trafford we can bounce back from any low attendance there. Given the last RL double header at Wembley attracted over 40,000 there is reason for optimism and an opportunity for our new fans from Hemel to Oxford to Gloucester and London itself to have an opportunity to support a prestigious fixture somewhat closer to home than the Northern heartlands.

 

I am looking forward to it as maybe a swansong to a long life supporting this great game and for me personally it will be a great success, hopefully crowned by an England win as topping on the cake.

A swansong? Please explain .... 

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A swansong? Please explain .... 

 

On a personal note I'm the wrong side of 65 years old and this might be my last opportunity to attend a world cup due to advancing age and retirement financing issues.

 

However, whilst there's life there's hope and I;ve always wanted to visit Australia, so maybe I'll be there for the next one, hopefully to see England defend their title.

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Start saving now for 2017 … then there's the 2021 RLWC in the northern hemisphere to look forward to !

 

65 is the new 45 ! 

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Really? I have 67 as the new 30!!!!!!

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Like most things in rugby league these days it will be 'talked up' into being a success to its own people - despite no sell-outs, no sponsor, farcical national teams, banks of empty seats at several games and crowd noise pumped into Wembley like it was in 2011.

Any of these things would be considered a flop in major sports.

It would be great if England pull out all the stops and that the competition is full of tight games so that people will overlook these things and we no longer have to rely on hype. Talking up the game has been RL's Plan A - sadly there has never been a Plan B - since the mid 90s, but it doesn't wash with many people who still follow RL, just as it doesn't with those who don't.

I'll be there, hoping to be proved wrong on all of the above.

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Just for once could our friends from the east of the Pennines get it into their heads that accentuating the positives about your own event/club is not some kind of effete southern character flaw; it is how every sensible person promotes themselves. 'Calling a spade a spade' is not always the most helpful strategy so if you have nowt good to say about this hugely important tournament STFU

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So's my wife, it just seems to be a tendency from some of your compatriots to view PR as akin to witchcraft and seek to minimise good news, doubt positivity and spread any concerns to the widest possible audience. People did this with the Olympics and other big events, the difference is that we don't have enough friends in the media to offset the negativity.

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Like most things in rugby league these days it will be 'talked up' into being a success to its own people - despite no sell-outs, no sponsor, farcical national teams, banks of empty seats at several games and crowd noise pumped into Wembley like it was in 2011.

Any of these things would be considered a flop in major sports.

It would be great if England pull out all the stops and that the competition is full of tight games so that people will overlook these things and we no longer have to rely on hype. Talking up the game has been RL's Plan A - sadly there has never been a Plan B - since the mid 90s, but it doesn't wash with many people who still follow RL, just as it doesn't with those who don't.

I'll be there, hoping to be proved wrong on all of the above.

Miserable ######.

 

The only thing consistent about Rugby League are posts like yours. 

 

No sell-outs - how do you know?

 

No sponsor - they have Marriott and Hertz so far, plus a couple of other partners like Steeden, Gullivers, Welsh Assembley, Lottery. Do you mean a title sponsor? They aren't looking for one! The 2008 WC didn;t have one, and neither do other sports for their WC.

 

Farcical national teams - the general public aren't even bothered about this, just chippy RL fans. Cricket and RU extensively use players' heritage yet they get on with it and grow their sport. We sit and moan about it and look backward.

 

Banks of empty seats - more RL obsession. If we get 70k at Wembley, the likes of you will still focus on the banks of empty seats rather than the full ones.

 

Artificial crowd noise - I didn't even notice this at Wembley, so it must have been discrete.

 

You say there is no Plan B - what does that even mean? Surely staging events like this are the way to grow our sport, no matter how much the 'fans' like you try and hold the game back - and then pretend to hope they are proved wrong!

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Miserable ######.

 

The only thing consistent about Rugby League are posts like yours. 

 

No sell-outs - how do you know?

 

No sponsor - they have Marriott and Hertz so far, plus a couple of other partners like Steeden, Gullivers, Welsh Assembley, Lottery. Do you mean a title sponsor? They aren't looking for one! The 2008 WC didn;t have one, and neither do other sports for their WC.

 

Farcical national teams - the general public aren't even bothered about this, just chippy RL fans. Cricket and RU extensively use players' heritage yet they get on with it and grow their sport. We sit and moan about it and look backward.

 

Banks of empty seats - more RL obsession. If we get 70k at Wembley, the likes of you will still focus on the banks of empty seats rather than the full ones.

 

Artificial crowd noise - I didn't even notice this at Wembley, so it must have been discrete.

 

You say there is no Plan B - what does that even mean? Surely staging events like this are the way to grow our sport, no matter how much the 'fans' like you try and hold the game back - and then pretend to hope they are proved wrong!

 

Very well said, agree with every word. Without knowing the exact details of ticket sales, I struggle to see how anybody can be negative about Cardiff, Wembley and Old Trafford when the ticket sales website suggests that sales are going very well at all three and the strategy of opening areas a bay at a time, should ensure that it looks great on TV. A big kick off at Cardiff in front of a packed house will really give the tournament a flying start and see a surge in sales at other matches.

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On a personal note I'm the wrong side of 65 years old and this might be my last opportunity to attend a world cup due to advancing age and retirement financing issues.

 

However, whilst there's life there's hope and I;ve always wanted to visit Australia, so maybe I'll be there for the next one, hopefully to see England defend their title.

Feel the same way, one of my things to do before I die, is to watch a test series in Australia.

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I am quite hopeful of the WC being an outstanding success, talk of a sell outs, does give ammunition to the cynics though.  I can see it from both sides, the 30 sold out sections for the opening ceremony is a great plus. But that has to be balanced out with the 27 sections that are not yet currently on sale.

 

Both optimists and pessimists have an equal footing at the moment and both can end up overplaying their hand to try and get keyboard warrior points.

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I am quite hopeful of the WC being an outstanding success, talk of a sell outs, does give ammunition to the cynics though.  I can see it from both sides, the 30 sold out sections for the opening ceremony is a great plus. But that has to be balanced out with the 27 sections that are not yet currently on sale.

 

Both optimists and pessimists have an equal footing at the moment and both can end up overplaying their hand to try and get keyboard warrior points.

The fact is that very few people claim there will be all sorts of sell outs. Probably the highest predictions I've read for the opener and semi are 50-60k - this won't be enough for most people, despite the fact that it would be a brilliant crowd.

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It's a great crowd.  I still think they may go for broke and open up all the stadium come the day.  I just get the impression that there are alot of RL fans yet to commit for one reason or another.

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Like most things in rugby league these days it will be 'talked up' into being a success to its own people - despite no sell-outs, no sponsor, farcical national teams, banks of empty seats at several games and crowd noise pumped into Wembley like it was in 2011.

Any of these things would be considered a flop in major sports.

It would be great if England pull out all the stops and that the competition is full of tight games so that people will overlook these things and we no longer have to rely on hype. Talking up the game has been RL's Plan A - sadly there has never been a Plan B - since the mid 90s, but it doesn't wash with many people who still follow RL, just as it doesn't with those who don't.

I'll be there, hoping to be proved wrong on all of the above.

 

You already are wrong. The world record attendance for a RL international game was a World Cup final at Wembley when more than 70,000 turned up.   I think the last Rugby World Cup final was also a sell out in Brisbane.

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If you call 200,000 pre-sold tickets with 3 months to go a flop then you have a lot to worry about. 200k+ is more than will go through the gates at Wigan's DW or Leeds' Headingley in a the whole season.

200,000 thats impressive.

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Can't see what's not to like about RLWC2013. There will be some great games in an exciting schedule. The stadia seem to be about right for the matches, so there should be a good atmosphere. They've already sold a lot of tickets for many matches, so when we know RL fans leave buying tickets to the last minute & don't generally support international rugby league, I think things are coming along quite nicely.

 

What is really clear, is that the players are viewing this as the pinnacle of the season. Players are desperate to play in RLWC2013. That certainly wasn't the case with the 2000 World Cup.

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