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todays results 02/08

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New Ravens 8 Birmingham Bulldogs 98.. Ravens finished their regular league season beaten by a far superior bulldogs team in every department.

 

Positives from the season is that for the first time in our 8 yrs that we have 100% completion rate for fixtures which was one of our key targets for the season and has made a pleasant change for me not to have to call up the opposition night before the game and having to cry off.

Other key target was to make the Midlands 1 playoffs by finishing in 5th to 8th place and finished in 8th place with a trip to Leicester A next week the reward.

 

Next season targets will be the same and to be higher up the table if possible, and also to kick start the juniors again with only having had u-11's this season now that we will have 4 more qualified coaches at the club come end of august.

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Great news and small steps are right. Today North Derbyshire Chargers completed their first fixtured season with 100%. From the birth of Chesterfield Spires its taken 8 seasons to get there but I'm sure they will kick on too.

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Great news and small steps are right. Today North Derbyshire Chargers completed their first fixtured season with 100%. From the birth of Chesterfield Spires its taken 8 seasons to get there but I'm sure they will kick on too.

 

Better to do it when you're ready than to go too fast and implode. We were a bit unlucky to finish bottom - really good performances against Telford and Birmingham that bode well for next season if we can get a consistent team out. It was the "winnable" games where we turned in our worst performances.

 

I would actually ban teams from the playoffs who don't achieve 100% - because of holidays and an enforced change in kick-off time we travelled with 11 yesterday, as I believe the Ravens did at least once this season. At the very least, there should be a points penalty.

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Midlands Premier Division Play offs

Telford v Northampton Demons A

Birmingham Bulldogs v Coventry Dragons

Midlands Division 1 Play offs

Leicester Storm A v NEW Ravens

Sleaford Spartans v Coventry Bears A

These fixtures will take place over the weekend of 10th/11th August.

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Pick of the fixtures is Birmingham v Coventry Dragons - Birmingham are really hitting form at the moment.

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We got shouted at for suggesting that Tim about not being allowed to enter playoffs, agree completely tho!

Me too. Although the 24-0 benefits the non-offending team, it doesn't punish the offending team, and can actually inderectly penalise other teams and distort the table.

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You are right about Birmingham been on fire at the moment... and we didn't play that poorly, a few new ones like.

 

totally agree what Tim says as well

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As an aside, I've really enjoyed being involved with Midlands Rugby League this year but can't help thinking the regular season is still too short.

14-16 games would've been perfect.

We actually played far more games last time I was coach at Chargers whilst we were still in the merit league (17 + playoffs if I recall correctly)

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Will be an interesting end of season review meeting then :)

Comment from one of our lads on the Facebook group: "If the season last long I would be happy 2 miss union."

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Comment from one of our lads on the Facebook group: "If the season last long I would be happy 2 miss union."

Good stuff. Experience tells us tho that not everyone puts their money where their mouths are. A 14 week season is probs the max possible in 2014.

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Good stuff. Experience tells us tho that not everyone puts their money where their mouths are. A 14 week season is probs the max possible in 2014.

Tell me about it!

Assuming Midlands Premier moves to 12 teams (my snouts tell me Derby are stepping up) then 14 fixtures actually works if you have a regionalised draw.

Break the league into three regionalised (invisible) pools of four. Play everyone in you pool twice (six games) and all of the other teams once (eight games) = 14 games.

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Tell me about it!

Assuming Midlands Premier moves to 12 teams (my snouts tell me Derby are stepping up) then 14 fixtures actually works if you have a regionalised draw.

Break the league into three regionalised (invisible) pools of four. Play everyone in you pool twice (six games) and all of the other teams once (eight games) = 14 games.

If (when) Derby step up that would be 11. Come on Leamington, Pottsy's fixture list needs you!

North/East: Chargers, Derby, Nottingham, Sleaford

South: Northampton A, Leicester A, Cov Dragons, Cov Bears A

West: Birmingham, Telford, Leamington, NEW Ravens

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If (when) Derby step up that would be 11. Come on Leamington, Pottsy's fixture list needs you!

North/East: Chargers, Derby, Nottingham, Sleaford

South: Northampton A, Leicester A, Cov Dragons, Cov Bears A

West: Birmingham, Telford, Leamington, NEW Ravens

I think we've just rendered that bloke from Ilkeston redundant, Tim. Well done ;)

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Joking apart, the key to running any league is to only admit teams who are likely to complete all of their fixtures.

The RLC suffered for years through rushed expansion, phantom teams and pandering to the lowest common denominator.

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I think we've just rendered that bloke from Ilkeston redundant, Tim. Well done ;)

That happened in March;) And i was born in Derby, thank you :P

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That happened in March;) And i was born in Derby, thank you :P

Fair enough ;)

You have to admit, that does look workable though :)

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If (when) Derby step up that would be 11. Come on Leamington, Pottsy's fixture list needs you!North/East: Chargers, Derby, Nottingham, SleafordSouth: Northampton A, Leicester A, Cov Dragons, Cov Bears AWest: Birmingham, Telford, Leamington, NEW Ravens

We will be there Tim. This year was about stabilising the club at a new venue, we are ready to push on now. Although I don't know if going straight into a league with Telford and Birmingham in would be ideal for us. I do have an alternative structure in mind but won't bore anyone with that.

One way to introduce more fixtures would be the creation of a Midlands Cup competition for tier 4. If it was a knockout cup it could add up to 4 extra fixtures to the season. If clubs wanted a longer season they would have to ensure a good cup run. Could also add another event to the Midlands RL calendar.

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We will be there Tim. This year was about stabilising the club at a new venue, we are ready to push on now. Although I don't know if going straight into a league with Telford and Birmingham in would be ideal for us. I do have an alternative structure in mind but won't bore anyone with that.

One way to introduce more fixtures would be the creation of a Midlands Cup competition for tier 4. If it was a knockout cup it could add up to 4 extra fixtures to the season. If clubs wanted a longer season they would have to ensure a good cup run. Could also add another event to the Midlands RL calendar.

We played Telford and Birmingham in second half of the season and, despite being at opposite ends of the table, ran both teams close.

There's actually not that big a difference between any of the teams and, IMO, the big league actually makes it feel like a proper competition, rather than a bit of a summer knockabout for union lads.

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I'm not a fan of Cups. If you have it pre-season and get knocked out, you end up playing a game then having a 3 week gap. Playing mid-season just disrupts things. We benefitted from having the rhythym of a match every week in terms of continuity.

 

All suggestions for league structures will be welcome, I'm sure!

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Ive spoken to a few teams this year and In the region we have 13 sides who will be looking play regular fixtures in the Midlands league/s next season.

Telford Raiders, Cov Dragons, Birmingham Bulldogs, Northampton Demons A, Leicester Storm A, Sleaford Spartans, Cov Bears A, NEW Ravens, ND Chargers, Nottingham Outlaws A, Leamington Royals, Derby City, Cov Dragons A.

Make of that what you will but im guessing you can't have the Dragons and the Dragons A in the same league. I would rather we went back to two formal divisions in the midlands as this would make the step up for us, Derby and Dragons A easier as we wouldn't have to play Birmingham,Telford and Cov Dragons who are all noticeably stronger than us.

The below 4 teams (should they all return just want to play friendlies / merit league)

Wolverhampton, Coventry Warriors, Bedford A, Telford A

It's academic however until Mr Butler can tell us what is happening with National South for next season. As we could see some teams from the midlands either join or leave the competition based on what is happening there.

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It's academic however until Mr Butler can tell us what is happening with National South for next season. As we could see some teams from the midlands either join or leave the competition based on what is happening there.

 

Teams who want to play in National South next season - including the current  or  new ones - have to register their interest with the RFL before 31st August, so you might hear who's doing what after that date.  Depends on who you speak to as to what is happening in Nat South, I've heard that one team is definitely considering dropping out, but have also been told two teams are considering joining, but its all just rumour until its announced, I just hope that it will be done quickly as it effects a lot of clubs who need to know about next season. 

 

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Ive spoken to a few teams this year and In the region we have 13 sides who will be looking play regular fixtures in the Midlands league/s next season.

Telford Raiders, Cov Dragons, Birmingham Bulldogs, Northampton Demons A, Leicester Storm A, Sleaford Spartans, Cov Bears A, NEW Ravens, ND Chargers, Nottingham Outlaws A, Leamington Royals, Derby City, Cov Dragons A.

Make of that what you will but im guessing you can't have the Dragons and the Dragons A in the same league. I would rather we went back to two formal divisions in the midlands as this would make the step up for us, Derby and Dragons A easier as we wouldn't have to play Birmingham,Telford and Cov Dragons who are all noticeably stronger than us.

The below 4 teams (should they all return just want to play friendlies / merit league)

Wolverhampton, Coventry Warriors, Bedford A, Telford A

It's academic however until Mr Butler can tell us what is happening with National South for next season. As we could see some teams from the midlands either join or leave the competition based on what is happening there.

 

Have Dragons A played enough games this season to show that they could fulfil a 12-14 game season? The best thing for us, for development rather than free points obviously, was that nobody cried off against us this year. We had our best performances against Telford and Birmingham.

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